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Old 08-14-2009, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
Why would the Japanese need 638 HP when 480 is enough?
480 is not 'enough', its just what it has now. As time goes on it'll gain more to keep up.
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Originally Posted by Transam kid 01
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But what does it matter if you can rev to 8k.....Congrats, you have high RPMs....but what does that mean? especially if you don't make much power?
to some extent i agree with you. but also are cars with no torque (Proto Cars in the Lemans, and Rolex series) cannot live with out the high rpms.

but as for the rx8 concerns i agee. but then i look at the proto cars of those series, then i notice the rx8 works in the same fashion. if its able to keep speed with out slowing down on turns, or race traffic, it would do just fine.

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Old 08-14-2009, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by renesisgenesis
Higher revving is a huge part of what a high performance engine is all about. The torque it produces is the available force, and the rpm determines the mechanical leverage you can use when getting the power to the road. High RPM has always been a key for getting the most power from a limited displacement, which you might find in a race car, or a road car that you are trying to keep light.
You just fudged yourself...
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why even dignify this thread with a reply?

oops I'm guilty too now
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Originally Posted by MICHGoBlue
why even dignify this thread with a reply?

oops I'm guilty too now
+1







Damn it....
Old 08-14-2009, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
Why would the Japanese need 638 HP when 480 is enough?
Why would the Americans need 9000 RPM when 6500 is enough?

Originally Posted by Moderie/MT
everyone loves how high my 8's rpms go. and how the sound just keeps going and going and going.
Old 08-14-2009, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by YaXMaNGTO
Why would the Americans need 9000 RPM when 6500 is enough?

+1

as for the handling issue I have an 04 Viper SRT 10 and let me tell you that thing handles better than our 8's with 505 horses and a redline at 6500 rpms
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Originally Posted by Cf05
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as for the handling issue I have an 04 Viper SRT 10 and let me tell you that thing handles better than our 8's with 505 horses and a redline at 6500 rpms
Impressive!
[EMBED]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtzMaCoq2_4[/EMBED]
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Impressive!
[embed]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtzMaCoq2_4[/embed]

Dont get me wrong I love my 8 and its high red line its a ton of fun to drive. But this thread is really just dumb were comparing two completley different beasts.
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I completely agree, no real comparison (hence the video showing that)...but then, threads started by the OP generally lack something.....often a reason apparently
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lol I don't get the point of this thread but im glad you own a viper cf05 so you can disprove the stupid myth that american cars don't go around corners well.
Old 08-14-2009, 11:26 AM
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F1 cars used to rev to 22,000 rpm. That was something to hear! lol
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Originally Posted by renesisgenesis
Correct me if I am wrong, but there has ever been a stock, production car from a US automaker that redlines at 8000 or more rpm.

How long do you guys think it will take for this to change?

I give them 20 years.
Not that this is exactly what you are thinking about, but if you go BACK 40+ years to the carburetor days, engine RPM was only limited by valve train float. I know that Ford had an 8000 RPM tach for their 1966 Hi-Po V8 they put in their Mustangs.

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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
damn magazine racers

That is so crazy! The Zr-1 makes more HP/torque at 3k rpm, than most cars under the 40k dollar range make at redline.
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after I read this whole thread

I feel my IQ has dropped by 30%
Old 08-14-2009, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by alfy28
to some extent i agree with you. but also are cars with no torque (Proto Cars in the Lemans, and Rolex series) cannot live with out the high rpms.

but as for the rx8 concerns i agee. but then i look at the proto cars of those series, then i notice the rx8 works in the same fashion. if its able to keep speed with out slowing down on turns, or race traffic, it would do just fine.
Right, but and engine with little torque or potential torque will need something else to compensate for it, hense higher HP, RPM, or lower weight. But this is the way the engine is designed; it is what it is. The reason we have so many different engines is because there are many people with different views/wants/goals from engines. Not everyone wants or expects the same thing out of an engine, hence why you have so many people "redesigning the wheel" (so to speak).

I don't understand why we get so many threads about topics like this; there are different cars because there are different people. If you don't like a car, it's probably because you were not the manufacturers intended target.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
after I read this whole thread

I feel my IQ has dropped by 30%
your IQ just needs to rev higher
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F1 cars ftw!!!!!
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I've adjusted my stock RX-8 with a 22,000 RPM tach.

Still has the fuel cut at 9300, though.
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^lol. Got any pics?
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Originally Posted by CyberPitz
I've adjusted my stock RX-8 with a 22,000 RPM tach.

Still has the fuel cut at 9300, though.
I hit fuel cut in 2nd gear yesterday leaving a Legacy GT on a very twisty back road scared me for a split second I didnt notice I was up that high, rotary smoothness, most engines sound like theyre coming thru the hood at 6500rpms
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Originally Posted by Gr8Bullet
F1 cars used to rev to 22,000 rpm. That was something to hear! lol
What year was this? Max that I can recall was in the 19s. In '08 season they were rev-limited to 19k, this year 18k.
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I don't post much, but I must say...this is a stupid ******* thread.


I love my high revving rotary to death, but I'd happily trade 1.5k rpms of redline for an extra 150hp, and more importantly, and extra 150lb-ft tq and a snail. More importantly, I don't agree with shitting on American cars for the sport of it. I just appreciate different cars for what they are.
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Originally Posted by RX26b
What year was this? Max that I can recall was in the 19s. In '08 season they were rev-limited to 19k, this year 18k.

like 06'-07' season. officals have made a lot of restrictions since then. they were going like 230mph now bearly low 200's. but there still quick and loud.


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