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Old 08-13-2009, 01:33 PM
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American Cars @ 8000 + RPM

Correct me if I am wrong, but there has ever been a stock, production car from a US automaker that redlines at 8000 or more rpm.

How long do you guys think it will take for this to change?

I give them 20 years.
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how many companies in general has one?

honda, mazda, bmw, toyota

big freaking deal. it makes no difference when they make more poower at 2000 rpm than you at 8k
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damn magazine racers

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Originally Posted by tmak26b
how many companies in general has one?

honda, mazda, bmw, toyota

big freaking deal. it makes no difference when they make more poower at 2000 rpm than you at 8k
Ferrari

But what does it matter if you can rev to 8k.....Congrats, you have high RPMs....but what does that mean? especially if you don't make much power?
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Originally Posted by Transam kid 01
Ferrari

But what does it matter if you can rev to 8k.....Congrats, you have high RPMs....but what does that mean? especially if you don't make much power?
Higher revving is a huge part of what a high performance engine is all about. The torque it produces is the available force, and the rpm determines the mechanical leverage you can use when getting the power to the road. High RPM has always been a key for getting the most power from a limited displacement, which you might find in a race car, or a road car that you are trying to keep light.
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This is fantastic stuff! Next time I race a Mustang GT, Camaro, Trans Am, Corvette....I will tell them they didnt really beat me because their redline is lower. Yea, they will totaly feel stupid then!
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rpm= airflow, simple as that.

But yeah, it's not a huge deal.

Look at crotch rockets. The Yamaha YZF-R6 redlines at 19,000 rpm (actually slightly lower, but whatever). And in the mid 80's, Honda a line of 600cc race bikes that redlined out at 22,000rpm!
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Originally Posted by renesisgenesis
Higher revving is a huge part of what a high performance engine is all about. The torque it produces is the available force, and the rpm determines the mechanical leverage you can use when getting the power to the road. High RPM has always been a key for getting the most power from a limited displacement, which you might find in a race car, or a road car that you are trying to keep light.
So diesel motors are going about things completely backwards?
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Originally Posted by renesisgenesis
Higher revving is a huge part of what a high performance engine is all about. The torque it produces is the available force, and the rpm determines the mechanical leverage you can use when getting the power to the road. High RPM has always been a key for getting the most power from a limited displacement, which you might find in a race car, or a road car that you are trying to keep light.
Great if we get taxed by displacement and people track their cars, pointless if you drive from pt a to b.

ferrari is not a high volume production car....
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i dont see why the redline is such a big deal ?? i mean if you have all the hp who cares about the redline ...
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I suppose the OP is talking that its just a mechanical feat thats all, and its pretty impressive...
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NASCAR runs 9800rpm, big whoopie
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Tmak does everyone in your life hate you because every single thread i read your complaining about something... you should be more positive and less negative...
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
Tmak does everyone in your life hate you because every single thread i read your complaining about something... you should be more positive and less negative...
I am? I wasn't complaining about American cars can't do 8000RPM!!! Remember I said I might not like a lot of things, but I always give them credit when it is due!
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hmmm... alright...
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Originally Posted by renesisgenesis
Correct me if I am wrong, but there has ever been a stock, production car from a US automaker that redlines at 8000 or more rpm.

How long do you guys think it will take for this to change?

I give them 20 years.
From where i'm sitting (outside America) I have this stereotype , rightly or wrongly:

America is all about bigger is better . You want more power ? Lets make a bigger engine .

You want to go around corners as well ? Sorry , we don't do corners .

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^ well you havent driven the new cts ctsv or camaro or fusion sho or NEW mustang or xlrv or g8 gt/gxp ... there are more if i keep thinking but my point is theyre improving and doing great at that so why not give em credit for it ... i know their cars have sucked ***** before but theyre coming back strong ... look at the ctsv it will eat an m5 for nearly half the price handling and power wise
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Originally Posted by Brettus
From where i'm sitting (outside America) I have this stereotype , rightly or wrongly:

America is all about bigger is better . You want more power ? Lets make a bigger engine .

You want to go around corners as well ? Sorry , we don't do corners .
You guys haven't had a chance to drive a Corvette then, it is a complete car and it uses more than just power to keep up. I think the British tested it and they couldnt believe how fast it is on Top Gear. On run flats, a bone stock C6 was around six seconds faster than my RX-8 on race rubber in a 2 minute course...
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Yeah - a bit unfair of me . Things have definately improved in that department .
As far as high reving lightweight engines go however .............?????
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Originally Posted by Brettus


You want to go around corners as well ? Sorry , we don't do corners .
technically, since we are all siting on the surface of a giant ball, even a "straight" road is turning ......... down.......
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Correct me if I am wrong, but there has ever been a stock, production car from a Japanese automaker that has 638 hp.

How long do you guys think it will take for this to change?

I give them 20 years.
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Yeah - a bit unfair of me . Things have definately improved in that department .
As far as high reving lightweight engines go however .............?????
NASCAR makes over 800HP, revs to 9800RPM.

Production car Z06 can go over 7000RPM if needed, but why. What is the point if you are making the power in mid range?
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Originally Posted by YaXMaNGTO
Correct me if I am wrong, but there has ever been a stock, production car from a Japanese automaker that has 638 hp.

How long do you guys think it will take for this to change?

I give them 20 years.
Why would the Japanese need 638 HP when 480 is enough?
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ya people can say whatever they want about a car having high rpms. its more how they tune it for the rpms it has anyways if its gonna change performance.

but talking about american cars not having high rpms.

everyone loves how high my 8's rpms go. and how the sound just keeps going and going and going.

now could you imagine sitting at a stop light and a 500+ hp american muscle car pulls up next to you and starts reving its engine., and it has 9,000 rpms to play with. I don't care who you are your going to turn and look at that giant rumbling rpm'd beast. so what if it doesn't go any faster than a car with 3,000 less rpms its gonna turn a lot more heads when it hits those higher rpms.


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