370Z vs RX-8 ...let us hear it from owners of both cars
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Rx-8 vs 370 after 3000 miles
After 4300km (aprox 3k miles) I dynoed the 370 to have a baseline before any mods. The numbers of good, no offense to the rx8 owners, and aren't in the same league as a stock rx8.
The dyno sheet shows comparison between stock and the K&N filters (not bad considering 100$ filter investment).
I will go back to the dyno when the PCM "learns" the effects of the new CBE.
Ps. I also went to the track a week ago, and wasn't able to get the same lapping times i was getting on my last 8... Getting use to a heavy car is not easy. The 8 felt a lot more controllable and nimble throughout the chicanes than the Z.
ps2. Yes, the Z needs an extra oil cooler if you intend to put it on the track (limp mode reached 2 times during the last track day).
The dyno sheet shows comparison between stock and the K&N filters (not bad considering 100$ filter investment).
I will go back to the dyno when the PCM "learns" the effects of the new CBE.
Ps. I also went to the track a week ago, and wasn't able to get the same lapping times i was getting on my last 8... Getting use to a heavy car is not easy. The 8 felt a lot more controllable and nimble throughout the chicanes than the Z.
ps2. Yes, the Z needs an extra oil cooler if you intend to put it on the track (limp mode reached 2 times during the last track day).
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AHH, Horse Power who needs it....lol..
The RX-8 like the MX-5 is not all about POWER!!..
Take the MX-5 Voted in Australia by 'Wheels' magazine as the BEST SPORTS ROADSTER under $150K..
VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA – October 30, 2009:
The world’s most popular two-seat roadster, Mazda MX-5, is celebrating its 20th anniversary with another prestigious motoring award.
The ever-popular MX-5 fended off the challenge from premium European competition to be awarded the Best Sports Roadster under $150K in the annual Wheels magazine Gold Star Cars Awards. A solid performance against each of the judging criteria saw the MX-5 come out ahead of the Mercedes Benz SLK 350 and the Audi TTS Roadster.
While the MX-5 is globally renowned for its impressive ride and handling, the focus of the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards extends further than just driving dynamics. An expert panel of judges evaluates each vehicle against ten different criteria to identify the car that offers the best ownership proposition in its category.
The Mazda MX-5 is no stranger to winning awards having won over 180 gongs worldwide since its introduction in 1989. In this time, it has also been a two-time winner of Wheels Car of the Year, in 1989 and 2005.
“For the MX-5 to win its category in the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards against such premium competition really speaks volumes about its quality. This award continues to highlight the reasons why the MX-5 remains popular with Australian buyers 20 years after it was first launched,” said Mazda Australia’s managing director Doug Dickson.
“The MX-5 offers class-leading handling and design combined with excellent levels of safety and comfort. And when you also consider the exceptional value it provides owners, it’s little wonder the MX-5 remains the world’s best-selling open two-seat sports car.”
The Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards were published in the November issue of the newly revamped Wheels magazine.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/483091.html
The RX-8 like the MX-5 is not all about POWER!!..
Take the MX-5 Voted in Australia by 'Wheels' magazine as the BEST SPORTS ROADSTER under $150K..
VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA – October 30, 2009:
The world’s most popular two-seat roadster, Mazda MX-5, is celebrating its 20th anniversary with another prestigious motoring award.
The ever-popular MX-5 fended off the challenge from premium European competition to be awarded the Best Sports Roadster under $150K in the annual Wheels magazine Gold Star Cars Awards. A solid performance against each of the judging criteria saw the MX-5 come out ahead of the Mercedes Benz SLK 350 and the Audi TTS Roadster.
While the MX-5 is globally renowned for its impressive ride and handling, the focus of the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards extends further than just driving dynamics. An expert panel of judges evaluates each vehicle against ten different criteria to identify the car that offers the best ownership proposition in its category.
The Mazda MX-5 is no stranger to winning awards having won over 180 gongs worldwide since its introduction in 1989. In this time, it has also been a two-time winner of Wheels Car of the Year, in 1989 and 2005.
“For the MX-5 to win its category in the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards against such premium competition really speaks volumes about its quality. This award continues to highlight the reasons why the MX-5 remains popular with Australian buyers 20 years after it was first launched,” said Mazda Australia’s managing director Doug Dickson.
“The MX-5 offers class-leading handling and design combined with excellent levels of safety and comfort. And when you also consider the exceptional value it provides owners, it’s little wonder the MX-5 remains the world’s best-selling open two-seat sports car.”
The Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards were published in the November issue of the newly revamped Wheels magazine.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/483091.html
^ amen the 8 wasnt made for power ... do i miss the power yes can we use more power yes but thats not the purpose of the 8 is a pure 2+2 sports car that is sexy and handles like a dream ... ive driven the new 370 sport and it handles great but its still not the 8 and yes the z is powerful but it was meant to be the 8 wasnt also the z is butt ugly my friend
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^ amen the 8 wasnt made for power ... do i miss the power yes can we use more power yes but thats not the purpose of the 8 is a pure 2+2 sports car that is sexy and handles like a dream ... ive driven the new 370 sport and it handles great but its still not the 8 and yes the z is powerful but it was meant to be the 8 wasnt also the z is butt ugly my friend
The Z is like something you just want to kick!!...
^ ha ha lol true ... i never get tired of driving my 8 your right! i mean its my personal taste but i wouldnt wanna be caught dead in a z also they are kinda cramped or at least feel that way
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AHH, Horse Power who needs it....lol..
The RX-8 like the MX-5 is not all about POWER!!..
Take the MX-5 Voted in Australia by 'Wheels' magazine as the BEST SPORTS ROADSTER under $150K..
VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA – October 30, 2009:
The world’s most popular two-seat roadster, Mazda MX-5, is celebrating its 20th anniversary with another prestigious motoring award.
The ever-popular MX-5 fended off the challenge from premium European competition to be awarded the Best Sports Roadster under $150K in the annual Wheels magazine Gold Star Cars Awards. A solid performance against each of the judging criteria saw the MX-5 come out ahead of the Mercedes Benz SLK 350 and the Audi TTS Roadster.
While the MX-5 is globally renowned for its impressive ride and handling, the focus of the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards extends further than just driving dynamics. An expert panel of judges evaluates each vehicle against ten different criteria to identify the car that offers the best ownership proposition in its category.
The Mazda MX-5 is no stranger to winning awards having won over 180 gongs worldwide since its introduction in 1989. In this time, it has also been a two-time winner of Wheels Car of the Year, in 1989 and 2005.
“For the MX-5 to win its category in the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards against such premium competition really speaks volumes about its quality. This award continues to highlight the reasons why the MX-5 remains popular with Australian buyers 20 years after it was first launched,” said Mazda Australia’s managing director Doug Dickson.
“The MX-5 offers class-leading handling and design combined with excellent levels of safety and comfort. And when you also consider the exceptional value it provides owners, it’s little wonder the MX-5 remains the world’s best-selling open two-seat sports car.”
The Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards were published in the November issue of the newly revamped Wheels magazine.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/483091.html
The RX-8 like the MX-5 is not all about POWER!!..
Take the MX-5 Voted in Australia by 'Wheels' magazine as the BEST SPORTS ROADSTER under $150K..
VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA – October 30, 2009:
The world’s most popular two-seat roadster, Mazda MX-5, is celebrating its 20th anniversary with another prestigious motoring award.
The ever-popular MX-5 fended off the challenge from premium European competition to be awarded the Best Sports Roadster under $150K in the annual Wheels magazine Gold Star Cars Awards. A solid performance against each of the judging criteria saw the MX-5 come out ahead of the Mercedes Benz SLK 350 and the Audi TTS Roadster.
While the MX-5 is globally renowned for its impressive ride and handling, the focus of the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards extends further than just driving dynamics. An expert panel of judges evaluates each vehicle against ten different criteria to identify the car that offers the best ownership proposition in its category.
The Mazda MX-5 is no stranger to winning awards having won over 180 gongs worldwide since its introduction in 1989. In this time, it has also been a two-time winner of Wheels Car of the Year, in 1989 and 2005.
“For the MX-5 to win its category in the Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards against such premium competition really speaks volumes about its quality. This award continues to highlight the reasons why the MX-5 remains popular with Australian buyers 20 years after it was first launched,” said Mazda Australia’s managing director Doug Dickson.
“The MX-5 offers class-leading handling and design combined with excellent levels of safety and comfort. And when you also consider the exceptional value it provides owners, it’s little wonder the MX-5 remains the world’s best-selling open two-seat sports car.”
The Wheels Gold Star Cars Awards were published in the November issue of the newly revamped Wheels magazine.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/483091.html
I guess you have both and wanted to point out something about the mx-5?
Since I had also had a 90 Miata i would be happy to discuss about it in a MX-5 forum.
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hes just making a point as to how the rx8 LIKE the mx5 is not meant to be powerful but meant to handle the z handles well and is powerful but its handling doesnt compare to the 8 ...
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AH Yeah....
this is GENERAL AUTOMOTIVE in an RX-8 Forum and the Subject is about a NISSAN Z, and YES my comment is about POWER and HOW a car like the MX-5 with NO Power can beat so called classier German Roadsters.
Yes we know the Z has more POWER, just like many other movers.
And this thread has been going Nowhere for Months..
BTW, The MX-5 in question is a 2010 model.
Last edited by ASH8; Oct 31, 2009 at 03:20 AM.
^ no problem i totally see what you mean i dont drive an rx8 coz i wanna smoke everyone in any car on a stop light i drive it coz i like it coz i dont care how fast it is it makes me feel in control ... i also have a 2010 camaro ss with tons of power its a beast about to be sced but i still love the 8 just coz of its driving manner
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Thread revival
Yes it's time to revive this thread. I am a former 8 owner and a current 370z Owner and wanted to do a little comparo.
I went for a few years driving my 8 enjoying its handling and feeling like a royalty every time I drove it. It was never tracked but went through the twisties almost every weekend. Things I loved about the car were obviously its handling, getting compliments from complete strangers, the seating position, the amazing cockpit, it just fit me like a glove, unlike any other car I had driven. BUT, it always felt underpowered, it killed me filling up with less than 300 miles to the tank.
The 370z is everything that was lacking in the 8. It has POWER, tons of it. And this car handles, better than the 8 if I might add. Yes, it's not a fair comparison cuz the 8 hasn't evolved since its first introduction but that is Mazda's fault! To get 25 mpg while enjoying 300 + horses doesn't bother me as much.
I will continue the pros and cons as time goes on. Feel free to start a debate!
I went for a few years driving my 8 enjoying its handling and feeling like a royalty every time I drove it. It was never tracked but went through the twisties almost every weekend. Things I loved about the car were obviously its handling, getting compliments from complete strangers, the seating position, the amazing cockpit, it just fit me like a glove, unlike any other car I had driven. BUT, it always felt underpowered, it killed me filling up with less than 300 miles to the tank.
The 370z is everything that was lacking in the 8. It has POWER, tons of it. And this car handles, better than the 8 if I might add. Yes, it's not a fair comparison cuz the 8 hasn't evolved since its first introduction but that is Mazda's fault! To get 25 mpg while enjoying 300 + horses doesn't bother me as much.
I will continue the pros and cons as time goes on. Feel free to start a debate!
Yes it's time to revive this thread. I am a former 8 owner and a current 370z Owner and wanted to do a little comparo.
I went for a few years driving my 8 enjoying its handling and feeling like a royalty every time I drove it. It was never tracked but went through the twisties almost every weekend. Things I loved about the car were obviously its handling, getting compliments from complete strangers, the seating position, the amazing cockpit, it just fit me like a glove, unlike any other car I had driven. BUT, it always felt underpowered, it killed me filling up with less than 300 miles to the tank.
The 370z is everything that was lacking in the 8. It has POWER, tons of it. And this car handles, better than the 8 if I might add. Yes, it's not a fair comparison cuz the 8 hasn't evolved since its first introduction but that is Mazda's fault! To get 25 mpg while enjoying 300 + horses doesn't bother me as much.
I will continue the pros and cons as time goes on. Feel free to start a debate!
I went for a few years driving my 8 enjoying its handling and feeling like a royalty every time I drove it. It was never tracked but went through the twisties almost every weekend. Things I loved about the car were obviously its handling, getting compliments from complete strangers, the seating position, the amazing cockpit, it just fit me like a glove, unlike any other car I had driven. BUT, it always felt underpowered, it killed me filling up with less than 300 miles to the tank.
The 370z is everything that was lacking in the 8. It has POWER, tons of it. And this car handles, better than the 8 if I might add. Yes, it's not a fair comparison cuz the 8 hasn't evolved since its first introduction but that is Mazda's fault! To get 25 mpg while enjoying 300 + horses doesn't bother me as much.
I will continue the pros and cons as time goes on. Feel free to start a debate!
However I didn't buy and R3...
I bout a used 04 for 10 grand 2 years ago. and now I have an estimated 220 whp and have only spent 5 grand on mods putting me at 15k total versus your 33k.
I can now beat all generations of lightly modified Z's at the track.
I'm just saying.
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Yes it's time to revive this thread. I am a former 8 owner and a current 370z Owner and wanted to do a little comparo.
I went for a few years driving my 8 enjoying its handling and feeling like a royalty every time I drove it. It was never tracked but went through the twisties almost every weekend. Things I loved about the car were obviously its handling, getting compliments from complete strangers, the seating position, the amazing cockpit, it just fit me like a glove, unlike any other car I had driven. BUT, it always felt underpowered, it killed me filling up with less than 300 miles to the tank.
The 370z is everything that was lacking in the 8. It has POWER, tons of it. And this car handles, better than the 8 if I might add. Yes, it's not a fair comparison cuz the 8 hasn't evolved since its first introduction but that is Mazda's fault! To get 25 mpg while enjoying 300 + horses doesn't bother me as much.
I will continue the pros and cons as time goes on. Feel free to start a debate!
I went for a few years driving my 8 enjoying its handling and feeling like a royalty every time I drove it. It was never tracked but went through the twisties almost every weekend. Things I loved about the car were obviously its handling, getting compliments from complete strangers, the seating position, the amazing cockpit, it just fit me like a glove, unlike any other car I had driven. BUT, it always felt underpowered, it killed me filling up with less than 300 miles to the tank.
The 370z is everything that was lacking in the 8. It has POWER, tons of it. And this car handles, better than the 8 if I might add. Yes, it's not a fair comparison cuz the 8 hasn't evolved since its first introduction but that is Mazda's fault! To get 25 mpg while enjoying 300 + horses doesn't bother me as much.
I will continue the pros and cons as time goes on. Feel free to start a debate!
ps. 370z looks terrible.
I didn't read most of this thread but i'm guessing it's just a bunch of bickering back and forth 
Anyways, my only input here is just a personal observation. Every time i've been at the track or at an autocross and a 370z shows up they just park and watch. I get excited because i really want to see how fast they are but they just pop their hood and talk about how fast it is
Anyways, my only input here is just a personal observation. Every time i've been at the track or at an autocross and a 370z shows up they just park and watch. I get excited because i really want to see how fast they are but they just pop their hood and talk about how fast it is
I actually encountered an a-hole in a 350. before my engine rebuild, with blown shocks, and **** clutch. I lost. when I have my engine build complete I'll be sure to have another encounter with him and let you know how I did.