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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 02:22 AM
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Are you familiar with MIT's current "star" running back? If you have to compete against him, then I feel sorry...
Old Mar 14, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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Re: Re: how the other half lives...

Originally posted by zthang
That's because there aren't nearly as many people "initially" buying the RX8 to make them eligible to "resell" it.

There's a thread somewhere on this board about the Feb 2004 sales for both company's and the Z is still outselling by almost 2:1, despite the fact that it's been on the market 3x longer. By sheer probability, the fact that there are more Z's sold logically means that there will be more Z's available for resale. Not to mention the fact that Mazda bought back those who might have wanted to resell their 8 at the beginning.

That's my analysis anyway....

Just picked up the Trader: For "Re-sale"

Nissan 350Z - 9 Mazda RX-8 - 0

Wouldn't you think by now that there might be a single RX-8 for
resale? I do, and the fact that I've yet to spot one in the Auto Trader is amazing. Even if your theory held water you would expect to see a couple of 8s for sell from time to time.....Either people just love them or maybe there secretly returning them in other states to buy 350s?
Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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It's very possible. I never said that your theory was wrong...I just offered a different one. Your ideas are also only show resale cars for san diego where that particular auto trader publishes. Not to mention they sell the most 350s in california. If you look on ebay there are always a few 8's for sale. There's a few for you.
Old Mar 15, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by JeupRX-8


I don't play sports anymore--- Although I would be all-state in Track & Field. I was offered full-ride scholarships from three D1 schools for football (Runningback). BUT, I turned it down becuase I am going to go to MIT for engineering. I am going to work for my father's company, and when he retires @ 45; I will be handed the company. By then, I will be driving a Ferrari (age 26), and I will hopefully be married.

Regards,

Troy J.
Some things don't jive here. Does anyone else sense it?
Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by PhineasFellOff
Some things don't jive here. Does anyone else sense it?
Yes, I sensed it too. He is half naked in his avatar. I can almost see his nipples.
Old Mar 15, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Re: Re: how the other half lives...

Originally posted by SDFLY
Just picked up the Trader: For "Re-sale"

Nissan 350Z - 9 Mazda RX-8 - 0

Wouldn't you think by now that there might be a single RX-8 for
resale? I do, and the fact that I've yet to spot one in the Auto Trader is amazing. Even if your theory held water you would expect to see a couple of 8s for sell from time to time.....Either people just love them or maybe there secretly returning them in other states to buy 350s?
Take a look at the forsale section on this board there are some for sale there, and just doing a search on autotrader.com for my area turned up 13 used RX-8s for sale. A lot les than the Z would turn up with the same search, but that's to be expected considering how many are on the road and that some people have had them for a couple years now.
Old Mar 15, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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4 Private sellers in my area, but yes, if they bought the RX-8 near MSRP they are going to lose their *** because many dealers seem to be flooded with RX-8s. Hell, on autotrader in the used car area I had to weed through the new cars to count the used ones. So delaers are paying for ads in the used area of the site to get more exposure. The few dealers I've seen in my area have plenty of 8s to go around and are willing to deal. It is a nice package, but hp sells cars in many cases. Even though the RX-8 is a great car (I mean that) it's getting a lot of ridicule within the import community, and even by enthusiasts who just expected more umph. That has to be hurting sales to a degree, and I would imagine so is some reluctancy caused by the stigma that seems to follow to rotary.

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Mazda dropped the ball with its MSRP game again. I have been saying from the beginning, Mazda should have offered the RX-8 6MT for $25k, and max out under $30k to be competitive. If they had done that, the hp issue wouldn't matter (since cars in the same class have less), they wouldn't have to discount it to invoice, which hurts both brand image and resale.
Old Mar 16, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Skyline Maniac
the hp issue wouldn't matter (since cars in the same class have less), they wouldn't have to discount it to invoice, which hurts both brand image and resale.
i didn't buy the car for its HP....i think the technology and car we are getting is fairly priced. come on it's a rotary..although cheaper is always nice..
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by Skyline Maniac
Mazda dropped the ball with its MSRP game again.
WTFE. Mazda offered a 4 seater sports car with much more equipment than the S2k and the Z for LESS money. So if they "dropped the ball" then Honda and Nissan must have just lost their f'n minds when they priced their cars.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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scorp76,

I agree with you completely. Skyline Maniac has no clue here. He's completely, disastrously wrong here.
Old Mar 21, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
4 Private sellers in my area....

***Pretty close, I just checked your Autotrader and found 3, agree that a few can be found on Ebay however***


... It is a nice package, but hp sells cars in many cases.

***Nothing a little money can't fix-up, does anyone actually drive stock autos anymore?***


...Even though the RX-8 is a great car (I mean that) it's getting a lot of ridicule within the import community, and even by enthusiasts who just expected more umph...

***I guess "2003 International Motor of the Year" and Road and Track Finalist for "Best car 2004" don't count for much with the urban slack-pants crowd...classic Ikeism, please keep on entertaining us***


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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 03:04 AM
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The majority of auto owners will never modify their car, and many of those that intend to modify will wait until the warranty is up. Why should you have to pay more for something that was already intended to be there (more hp) and risk warranty claims being denied.

I read a lot of car boards, if you want to think it's just me entertaining you, that's your perogative. But I see what other car owners say about the RX-8, most of it relates to how slow it is or how Mazda screwed up. While these may be nieve statements, made by people that don't realize it's still a great car, they're still people that may have driven the car and bought the car if it did not have the stigma attached to it. A stigma that was placed there by Mazda, and a stigma that continues to grow as the dyno results of RX-8s make their rounds on the car forums.
Tell them about the International Engine (motors are electric) of the Year Award and they will laugh you off their forum. I'm not saying it's right, but it's the truth in many cases.

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I read a lot of car boards, if you want to think it's just me entertaining you, that's your perogative. But I see what other car owners say about the RX-8, most of it relates to how slow it is or how Mazda screwed up. While these may be nieve statements, made by people that don't realize it's still a great car, they're still people that may have driven the car and bought the car if it did not have the stigma attached to it. A stigma that was placed there by Mazda, and a stigma that continues to grow as the dyno results of RX-8s make their rounds on the car forums.
Tell them about the International Engine (motors are electric) of the Year Award and they will laugh you off their forum. I'm not saying it's right, but it's the truth in many cases.
My sense of Mazda, as a company, and the people that buy rotaries is that both are pretty unique. Mazda invested in a technology that everyone else was abandoning and despite all the problems with the Gen 3 turbo RX-7's, people kept them and modified their machines into monsters. Neither follow "conventional wisdom" and seem to care little about what others say.

Sure it might not help sales directly, but this type of culture gives the rotary and Mazda a cult-like status, which has helped Mazda keep and develop a brand image. Mazda is using the RX-8 to build a brand image. In the U.S. the Mazda 3 and 6 are the money makers for the company.

That's my two cents,

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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JeupRX-8:

dont feel embarassed about having the same car as one of your seniors! Myself, I don't feel ashamed when beating the crap out of youngsters in the local MTB track or in the nationals ;-)

Tamas

BTW: I'm 29, and don't forget money is not everything!

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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i have had my rx8 for 2 months.
i have to say the z is the better than the rx8
i have a silverstone 350z on order. i love the duel exhaust on the nissan 350z why cant the rx8 have a nice sound.?
Old Mar 21, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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You sound just dumb enough to fit in with the Z crowd. You definitely picked the right car.
Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by scorp76
You sound just dumb enough to fit in with the Z crowd. You definitely picked the right car.
And you sound bitter enough to fit in with the 8 crowd...what's your point? If you're going to make a stereotypical comment just say it bluntly like "I think 350z owners are idiots" no need to be sly and try to make it seem like you're not insulting the guy.
Old Mar 21, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Oh I thought I was being nice about it. I could have said it in a rude way, such as "Z owners are ******* idiots," or, "Z owners are as ******* stupid as their cars are ugly."

Next time I won't bite my tongue.
Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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Oh I thought I was being nice about it. I could have said it in a rude way, such as "Z owners are ******* idiots," or, "Z owners are as ******* stupid as their cars are ugly."

Next time I won't bite my tongue.
That's the spirit! You should never hide your true feelings. I still think they're both great cars, but that's just me. I apologize if you feel like I attacked you there with my last remark. That guy did insult your car first, so I understand why you'd lash back, I just think it's more mature to just say what you were really thinking and let it all out instead of trying to be sarcastic. It's a problem that I can't stand in my household. Everyone holds in their anger and instead of letting it go they just keep doing mean things. I think everyone needs to just let their anger out every once in awhile and just get it over with. Enough with hateful remarks, can't we all just get along?

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 11:31 PM
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That's the spirit! You should never hide your true feelings. I just think it's more mature to just say what you were really thinking and let it all out instead of trying to be sarcastic.
I never do. Holding **** in will send you to an early grave.

Enough with hateful remarks, can't we all just get along?
Don't count on it Rodney.
Old Mar 21, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by scorp76

Don't count on it Rodney.
I've never heard that phrase before? Where did it come from and who's Rodney?

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