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Old 09-29-2006, 04:53 PM
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Get the IS 350 and when the warranty runs out TURBO / SUPERCHARGE IT Imagine how good that would be ./and unique

Not a fair comparison as the 335i is Twin Turboed and the IS350 is naturally aspirated .

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Automatic 4 door vs. manual 2 door coupe, and you're surprised this crowd said the BM?

I rode shotgun on a 350 test drive (my bud eventually bought a 3 series), and it didn't really impress me, though we couldn't really push it. Blueeyes is right about the mirrors though, biggest freak'n things on any car, though you can see Uranus with 'em. But the truckish mirrors are only part of the non-sporty "feeling" about it.
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
i have driven both, and wrote reviews for it. In fact ive driven the IS350 with sport suspension HARD around an autox track at taste of lexus, the handling wasnt as good as the E46 330.
the 07 cars you can turn off the stability/traction control... you wouldn't believe how much that interferes without you even knowing
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Originally Posted by Grizzly8
Get the IS 350 and when the warranty runs out TURBO / SUPERCHARGE IT Imagine how good that would be ./and unique

Not a fair comparison as the 335i is Twin Turboed and the IS350 is naturally aspirated .


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Good point. Kinda like comparing an RX 8 to a car that makes horsepower!
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Originally Posted by 9291150
Automatic 4 door vs. manual 2 door coupe, and you're surprised this crowd said the BM?

I rode shotgun on a 350 test drive (my bud eventually bought a 3 series), and it didn't really impress me, though we couldn't really push it. Blueeyes is right about the mirrors though, biggest freak'n things on any car, though you can see Uranus with 'em. But the truckish mirrors are only part of the non-sporty "feeling" about it.
The 335 is both sedan and coupe.
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Originally Posted by Grizzly8
Not a fair comparison as the 335i is Twin Turboed and the IS350 is naturally aspirated .
So what? both engines seek to accomplish the same thing. It's a perfectly fair comparison that both lexus and BMW also make.
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+1,000,000 BMW 335

IS350 = glorified RWD Camry

The IS was nice to look at when it first came out, but it's lost its luster.
Funny, Lexus quotes a 5.3 second 0-60. Lets try 6 flat.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
So what? both engines seek to accomplish the same thing. It's a perfectly fair comparison that both lexus and BMW also make.
exactly, you cant knock a car for being FI. If they are in the same price category and same class then they are very comparable. And you cant FI a IS350 easily or cheap, that engine has super high compression rate and is build with light materials to rev high, it cant handle good boost without being rebuilt.
and like he said 335 comes in sedan form also...

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I'll take the all wheel drive IS250 w/the 335i's engine. That would be one mean sumbish. I actually love the lines of the new Lexus IS. Not many cars catch my attention on the road and, even though I see more and more everyday, that new IS is a head-turner IMHO.

For purposes of this thread, I say go with the 335i if you're going to lease and don't plan to do any modifications.

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335, no contest. Twin turbo powerband, less weight, better handling, better looks, more fun more SMILES.
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Originally Posted by YaXMaN
+1,000,000 BMW 335

IS350 = glorified RWD Camry

The IS was nice to look at when it first came out, but it's lost its luster.
Funny, Lexus quotes a 5.3 second 0-60. Lets try 6 flat.


Lost it's luster? it is still very young Selling very well at the moment.

You can disprove the 5.3 0-60 time?

It's very much in line with the HP/tq rating. even 6.0 is respectable... what is your point?

I drove the Camry before getting a 250.... a far step below the 350 and I test drove the Camry as well the same afternoon. Comparing the IS350 to the camry... you don't know what you are talking about. Try driving both cars before posting usleless opinions.

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The only place the IS has an advantage is in the interior and interior features.
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IS has more advantages than just that.
1) interior quality
2) reliability
3) much better noise deadening
4) better electonrics, sound system, especially better Nav
5) less bumpy when running over imperfections in the road
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
IS has more advantages than just that.
1) interior quality
2) reliability
3) much better noise deadening
4) better electonrics, sound system, especially better Nav
5) less bumpy when running over imperfections in the road
But alas, it doesn't seem to be as much fun to drive.
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Originally Posted by Shoafb
Lost it's luster? it is still very young Selling very well at the moment.

You can disprove the 5.3 0-60 time?

It's very much in line with the HP/tq rating. even 6.0 is respectable... what is your point?

I drove the Camry before getting a 250.... a far step below the 350 and I test drove the Camry as well the same afternoon. Comparing the IS350 to the camry... you don't know what you are talking about. Try driving both cars before posting usleless opinions.
Here's what I'm talking about... you bought a RWD Camry. Yes, the styling is already dated.



Oh, better yet... You skipped on the 350 and got a 250? Wow. Couldn't pry just a couple dollars out of your wallet to get a decent engine? The phones ringing... the dry cleaners need you come pick up your skirt.
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I still like the lines on the IS and don't care for the lines of the Camry. You could post pics like that comparing the Nissan Maxima to the Infiniti M35 but it doesn't make the Infiniti (or the IS) any less of a car. What are you trying to accomplish by telling the guy an IS250 doesn't have a decent engine either? Every engine Toyota currently makes is solid.
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I still like the lines on the IS and don't care for the lines of the Camry. You could post pics like that comparing the Nissan Maxima to the Infiniti M35 but it doesn't make the Infiniti (or the IS) any less of a car. What are you trying to accomplish by telling the guy an IS250 doesn't have a decent engine either? Every engine Toyota currently makes is solid.
You're trying to back up a decision to buy a nice looking, finely tuned "sports sedan" with a 204hp instead of a 306hp engine. Hell, if you're not an enthusiast, then I'm sure it's a dandy car.

I also like the lines of the IS350. My point is that its styling is derivative. If you're comfortable with that, ok. You won't mistake the 335i for anything but a Bimmer unless you're a knuckle head.

Maybe you should swap your 4G63 for a Ralliart engine? The 4G69 is "solid". It's only a hundred horsepower. Can you imagine what that would be like?
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Originally Posted by YaXMaN
You're trying to back up a decision to buy a nice looking, finely tuned "sports sedan" with a 204hp instead of a 306hp engine. Hell, if you're not an enthusiast, then I'm sure it's a dandy car.

I also like the lines of the IS350. My point is that its styling is derivative. If you're comfortable with that, ok. You won't mistake the 335i for anything but a Bimmer unless you're a knuckle head.

Maybe you should swap your 4G63 for a Ralliart engine? The 4G69 is "solid". It's only a hundred horsepower. Can you imagine what that would be like?
We all have different priorities. Evo owners are not Lexus owners. I would wager than 90% of new Lexus IS owners ended up at the dealership because they liked the way the car looked. The engine choice was secondary. Each Lexus IS (200, 250, 300) trim is nearly indistinguishable from the next. I personally would prefer that they offered the big V6 in an AWD version. Oh well. That's just me, but I'm not gonna call somebody cheap or poor or whatever for choosing a Lexus IS in any trim. It's an excellent sport/luxury car that will hold its value better than most any car on the road.
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The IS250 engine/car is a JOKE. I'd rather drive a V6 Camry over the IS250. The styling of the IS is better than the Camry. The Camry has confused front and rear end styling.
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Originally Posted by CarAndDriver
The IS250 engine/car is a JOKE. I'd rather drive a V6 Camry over the IS250. The styling of the IS is better than the Camry. The Camry has confused front and rear end styling.
It's got AWD and a 2.5L, 204-hp V6 with 185 lb-ft of torque. It's not a street brawler but it's probably not that far off from the RX-8's acceleration. How is that setup a joke?
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Originally Posted by CarAndDriver
The IS250 engine/car is a JOKE. I'd rather drive a V6 Camry over the IS250. The styling of the IS is better than the Camry. The Camry has confused front and rear end styling.

No you woudn't you seem like an enthusiast who enjoys driving, the Camry has no feel at all.



If you don't care about speed. It is peppy enough espicially at highway speeds. I drove the Camry just before getting the IS. It is faster.... heck it would woop up on an 8 off the line but it just did not float my boat. The IS interior is nicer and as you know RWD just feels better.

As far as not getting the 350 instead? That is another 8 grand or so I just did not want to spend.

The IS is base of of the GS not the Camry. The ES is based off the Camry.
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i love all the magazine humping Lexus trolls... never driven the car, yet they know that its just a Camry in desguise
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Originally Posted by r0tor
i love all the magazine humping Lexus trolls... never driven the car, yet they know that its just a Camry in desguise
No, you missed it. Nobody's saying the IS350 is a Camry in disguise.
Styling... not the chassis on which it's based... not the handling characteristics... simply, I think the styling is similar. There I spelled it out.
Heck, you might want to read a few more magazines. Keeps your spelling up to speed.
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Originally Posted by YaXMaN
No, you missed it. Nobody's saying the IS350 is a Camry in disguise.
Styling... not the chassis on which it's based... not the handling characteristics... simply, I think the styling is similar. There I spelled it out.
Heck, you might want to read a few more magazines. Keeps your spelling up to speed.

Style is really a personal preference. The IS doesn't look like a Camry to me, other then having 4 wheels. You said it was a glorified Camry....... that implies the entire car handling and all.
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Originally Posted by Shoafb
Style is really a personal preference. The IS doesn't look like a Camry to me, other then having 4 wheels. You said it was a glorified Camry....... that implies the entire car handling and all.
Yah, well I saw the two of them near each other leaving work. The jpg of each them at similar angles was supposed to reinforce my opinion - just what I think.
I called the IS350 a glorified RWD Camry, because it's obviously better than a Camry, but looks like one, and has RWD.


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