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Old 07-08-2019, 06:28 PM
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Well, that didn't take long.
Acura already bitching about BoP

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/c...azda-strength/
Yes they weren't bitching when they were winning and dominating. I hope IMSA ignores them. Too many times over the past decades the minute Mazda starts to win they get penalized so the bigger brands can get back on top.
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annnnd we just got hit with some big BoP adjustments.

Mazda Pegged Back in BoP


The Watkins Glen and Canadian Tire Motorsport Park-winning Mazda RT24-P has been handed a 20 kg increase in minimum weight and a reduction in turbo boost equivalent to nearly 17 horsepower in the mid-to-high RPM ranges for next weekend’s round at Road America.

It marks the first major BoP hit for the Multimatic-built prototype, which has come onto form in recent races.

Other BoP changes to the DPi class include a 20 kg weight increase for the Cadillac DPi-V.R, although offset by a 0.6 mm larger air restrictor for approximately a 11 horsepower increase from the normally aspirated V8.

Additionally, the Acura ARX-05 has been hit with 10 kg of additional weight as well, with the Nissan DPi remaining unchanged.

Both the Cadillac and Mazda have also been given fuel capacity adjustments due to the power level changes.
In short: Mazda got 20 kg of weight and lost approx 17hp in the mid rpm range while Cadillac gained weight but HP bumped ~11 hp.
Should make for a pretty interesting race in a few weeks.


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That's a huge combined hit on Mazda. I looks like the money boys (Acura) made an impact with their tears.
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Yes the big boys just could not allow themselves to be beat by Mazda, and IMSA buckled to their crying. I will stop following this series if they continue to be so unfair. Mazda was never going to get a fair shake it seems. I have been involved with IMSA since the late seventies with Mazda, VW, and Porsche, but the politics today has gotten in the way again of fairness in competition. It was a nice two-race season for Mazda while it lasted. Don't expect them to be allowed to win again.
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oh jesus.
it's not about "allowing" anyone to win.
was it a bit heavy handed? yeah probably but Mazda has had the fastest cars ALL Season, they just hadn't gotten hammered by BoP because they weren't actually winning so what effect were their record breaking qualifying laps having to the overall results? none.
well, Mazda was walking away from the field the last few races so they need to balance it out.
I get it.
do I wish (as a Mazda fan) they hadn't yes.
do I think it makes sense as a race fan? Yes.

Let's see how these last few races shake out.
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TGIFF and better yet, it's RACE WEEKEND!


So cars started showing up to Road America yesterday and obviously one of the big topics of convesation were the recent BoP changes handed out.
Thought this was ineteresting.

***Mazda’s RT24-P will be 20 kg heavier and have nearly 20 fewer horsepower this weekend, following a Balance of Performance adjustment handed down by IMSA last week. It equates to roughly a 30 horsepower power swing to the Cadillac DPi-V.R, which has also been given 20 kg of additional weight in addition to a power boost.

***While not revealing the precise extent of the BoP changes to the Mazda, Harry Tincknell told Sportscar365 that 0.5 seconds (per lap) would be a “conservative” number. The team tested at Road America in June, prior to the BoP changes.
yikes, if this does cost Mazda half a second that could be pretty pivotal to this race, especially given the big elevation changes at Road America and that hill climb up towards the start / finish. Those with the advantage in mid range RPM are going to be able to distance themselves from the pack in that spot every lap. (looking at you Acura and Cadillac)


Speaking of Cadillac, interesting comments from the WTR car

Jordan Taylor feels that Wayne Taylor Racing “can take as much risk as it wants to” in the latter rounds of the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship based on its position in the DPi points standings.

The 2017 title-winning Cadillac DPi squad is currently fifth in the championship with Taylor and Renger van der Zande sat 19 points off the top spot.
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He pointed to the updated Balance of Performance, which saw the Mazda RT24-Ps handed a 20kg weight increase after back-to-back victories, as an opportunity for WTR to regain a spot in the lead battle.

The Cadillacs were also handed additional weight in the pre-Road America BoP but this was counteracted by positive changes to their air restrictor diameters.

“We think we’ll be more in line with the Mazda now since they got a pretty big hit,” said Taylor.

“We gained and we lost, but we think the Mazda has lost enough that we could equal them. But we still feel that the Acura and the Nissan are a little bit ahead of us.

WTR Can Take Big Risks
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Cameron Puts Acura on Top in Road America Practice 1




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Acura Team Penske’s Dane Cameron set the pace during an incident-free opening practice session for this weekend’s IMSA Road Race Showcase at Road America.

Cameron turned in a time of 1:50.007 behind the wheel of the No. 6 Acura ARX-05 to lead the DPi field, ahead of Colin Braun in the CORE autosport Nissan DPi.

Braun’s effort fell just 0.023 seconds short of the session best, while Ricky Taylor put the sister Penske-run Acura in third on a 1:50.107.

The two Acuras and the sole Nissan in the field controlled Friday’s opening practice run-out, with the Cadillac and Mazda DPi entries all more than a second off the pace.

Cadillac entries from Action Express Racing and JDC-Miller Motorsports filled out the next two places, with the quickest DPi-V-R time of 1:51.241 coming courtesy of Felipe Nasr.

Harry Tincknell set the fastest lap for Mazda Team Joest, with the Englishman posting a time of 1:51.578 to go sixth overall.
Gee, Acura the fastest in practice, shocker!
It's only the first practice and I'm sure teams are still making adjustments so I'm not too worried yet but Cadillac AND Mazda being 1 second off the pace already is a little concerning.

I'm actually not all that surprised to hear that the Nissan up charging up towards the front of the pack based on comments made from Jordan Taylor earlier in the week. (and he's spot on)
“The Nissan had huge top speed at CTMP, and obviously top speed is huge here at Road America. They’ll be super strong, and the Acuras have been strong all year but haven’t really been hit with BoP since the middle of the year.
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Ford has ruled out a DPi program for the 2020 IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship season, with the manufacturer’s “focus” on potentially entering the platform under the new regulations in 2022.

The decision, confirmed by Ford Performance global motorsports director Mark Rushbrook, will result in no factory Ford presence in the WeatherTech Championship for at least the next two years.

As previously reported by Sportscar365, Ford had been considering a continuation of its factory IMSA program, but into the DPi ranks, prior to a possible effort around IMSA’s so-called DPi 2.0 regulations.

It’s understood work on a Multimatic-designed DPi, around the base platform of Mazda’s RT24-P, had been under development at some stage over the last year.

However, it’s believed the manufacturer ran out of time for a commitment to 2020, with a board meeting reportedly scheduled the same day as a recent IMSA DPi 2.0 steering committee in June that solidified the planned utilization of a high-voltage hybrid system.

A high-voltage system was one of the key requirements of Ford’s commitment, which was dependent on an interim DPi program for the 2020-21 seasons.

“Our focus is on DPi 2.0,” Rushbrook told Sportscar365.

“While it’s not fully mature, it is taking some shape and we have a good idea of what the bones of it are and details to be worked out.

“We’re very encouraged in the direction the DPi 2.0 talks are going.”

Rushbrook would not confirm a timeline for a potential commitment to the DPi 2.0 platform, although Sportscar365 understands that it could come as early as next month during Ford’s next scheduled board meeting.

“We do have a regular cadence of meetings and reviews with our senior management,” he said. “We’re always reviewing with cycle plans and proposals.

“Whenever there’s enough maturity to the DPi 2.0 rules, or any other series, then we’ll go in there and say whether we’re interested or we’re not.”
Full article touches on the uncertainties ahead for the Chip Ganassi team in light of this decision.
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Penske Acura Locks Out Friday Times at Road America





But all is not lost friends because look who came storming up behind them!


Acura Team Penske continued to set the pace at Road America by leading the second of Friday’s two practice sessions for the IMSA Road Race Showcase.

The pair of Acura ARX-05s sat first and second in the timing sheets at the end of the afternoon run, with Juan Pablo Montoya leading from Ricky Taylor.

Montoya’s session-leading time of 1:50.256 fell two-tenths short of being the fastest lap of the day, which was set by his co-driver Dane Cameron in Practice 1, but it was nonetheless enough to beat Taylor by 0.028 seconds.

Mazda Team Joest improved on its morning numbers to end up third and fourth with Oliver Jarvis lapping ahead of fellow Englishman Harry Tincknell.

Jarvis came up with a 1:50.531 to get within three-tenths of Montoya’s pace, while Tincknell was half a second off the leading effort.


After splitting the Acuras in Practice 1, the Nissan DPi of CORE autosport managed a 1:50.971 in the hands of Colin Braun to end up fifth in the standings.

This meant the five-car Cadillac DPi-V.R. contingent filled out positions six to 10, with Pipo Derani leading the block in the title-contending No. 31 Action Express machine.

The Brazilian’s time of 1:51.285 was just over a second slower than the fastest lap of the session.
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Damn Acura still owning everyone in practice. All 3 practices have now been completed for tomorrow's event and they've finished 1-2 in every single practice.
yikes.

Penske Acuras 1-2 in Saturday Morning Practice






Acura Team Penske finished 1-2 in third practice for the IMSA Road Race Showcase at Road America as the team’s No. 6 car completed a sweep of the practice times.

Dane Cameron put the No. 6 Acura ARX-05 on top of the DPi pile on Saturday morning having previously led Practice 1, while his co-driver Juan Pablo Montoya paced yesterday’s second session.

Cameron was the first driver to dip under the 1m 50s barrier this weekend with a time of 1:49.590 set early in Practice 3.

This held out until the end of the session, while a quickest second sector overall led to Helio Castroneves planting the sister No. 7 Acura in second, also with a sub-1m 50s run.

The best Penske Acura was six tenths quicker than the rest of the DPi field, with the third-best time of 1:50.259 coming courtesy of Oliver Jarvis in the No. 77 Mazda RT24-P.

Jarvis was already sat third when he improved on his final lap, having jumped ahead of Colin Braun’s 1:50.600 effort in the CORE autosport Nissan DPi.

The fastest Cadillac DPi-V.R was the No. 31 Whelen Engineering machine of Pipo Derani, who ran sixth-quickest behind the second Mazda entry.

Derani’s final time of 1:50.875 put the best of the Cadillacs 1.285 seconds off the overall pace.



Next up for the WeatherTech Championship is class-by-class qualifying, which takes place at 12:35 p.m. local time (1:35 p.m. eastern).
It's crazy how well these drivers know their cars.
Just a few days ago, Tinknell talked about the BoP changes and how he thought it would affect their cars.
Harry Tincknell told Sportscar365 that 0.5 seconds (per lap) would be a “conservative” number. The team tested at Road America in June, prior to the BoP changes.
where was Mazda today?
0.6 seconds a lap slower than Acura.

now will that hold up over the course of the race?
who knows but that seems like a pretty wide margin the Acuras are currently enjoying. I think yesterday the margins were a bit smaller so I'm hopeful Mazda can still run with Team Penske but going sub 1.50 at that track is damn fast and Acura is definitely the team to beat tomorrow.

Let's see how it all shakes out at qualifying later today...
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Oh, just a friendly reminder about tomorrow's race broadcast.

The race starts at 2:30 EST but it'll only be available live via the NBC Sports app at that time or you can watch the delayed airing at 6:30 EST on NBCSN.
I'll be casting the broadcast to my TV and probably posting throughout the race so if you don't want spoilers, you've been warned.
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Lots of news coming out this weekend since last night was the State of the Series address by IMSA.

2020 schedule remains virtually identical to 2019. Same 12 venues, pretty similar dates to what we had this year which is nice for consistency purposes.
I've already penciled in my weekend at Long Beach in April and maybe even a trip to Laguna Seca. IMSA 2020 Schedule Released


In addition to that, there's more information coming out in regards to where the series is going with the adaptation of DPi 2.0 set to debut in 2022. That seems like it's a ways out but IMSA is now talking about timelines and when we can expect to see certain things happening in anticipation for their debut.

IMSA Confirms DPi 2022 Timeline


IMSA has confirmed the timeline for the development of its DPi 2022 platform, which will see the technical regulations released by the first quarter of next year.

Revealed during Friday evening’s ‘State of the Series’ address at Road America, IMSA President Scott Atherton outlined the current progress in the evolution of the new regs that will serve as the successor to the current DPi formula beginning in 2022.

With the initial feasibility studies and wind tunnel model testing already complete, IMSA is set to begin the tender process for the spec hybrid system.

Atherton said they’ve had discussions with between 10-11 hybrid manufacturers although would not confirm the intended specification, which is understood by Sportscar365 to be a high-voltage system.

“I don’t want to confirm any of the technical details,” Atherton told Sportscar365. “That’s not yet part of our [public] discussion.

“That will come out when the regulations are released.”

While confirming a deadline of Q1 2020, two years prior to the platform’s planned debut in the 2022 Rolex 24 at Daytona, Atherton indicated the regulations could be finalized even sooner.

It comes in contrast to the FIA World Endurance Championship, which just last month confirmed its Hypercar regulations for the 2020-21 season.

“The sooner the better,” Atherton said on confirming its DPi 2022 regs. “There’s no benefit to delaying. As soon as they’re ready, we’ll go public.”

The timeline, meanwhile, calls for on-track testing to begin in the first quarter of 2021.

The second-generation DPi platform will feature “increased styling freedoms” compared to the current platform that will provide “enhanced” production car relevance for OEMs.

Multiple engine configurations will continue to be permitted, while alternative fuels, as part of IMSA Green, could be introduced in the future.

While not confirmed, it’s understood the platform will continue to be LMP2-based with the current four constructors.

Atherton said there are currently nine manufacturers involved in steering committee meetings in helping shape the regulations that will be in effect for at least five seasons.

“IMSA prides itself on being as transparent as it can be,” he said. “It’s not always an option given the business that we’re in.

“But to have people aware of when to expect the next steps in the process… credit where credit’s due, it all goes to Simon [Hodgson], Matt [Kurdock] and his team.

“I’ve heard unsolicited comments from many of the manufacturers that are involved with us, that this is a new benchmark of process, thoroughness and communication.

“All of these things are important when you’re defining the next generation of anything.”
I bolded some of the points I thought were interesting.
  • On track testing will begin in less than 18 months, that's cool.
  • I like the fact that they'll have even more creative liberties for the manufacturers to display their design queues. I still think the Mazda is the best looking of the DPi's so it'll be interesting to see how they leverate the new design elements in their next race car (assuming Mazda stays in the DP class which has yet to be confirmed)
  • That's a lot of engine manufacturers giving input which is good considering they'll be allowing different engines to continue to be run. I expect Cadillac will stick with big V8's Acura with their V6 (or maybe a V8. Mazda jumps up to their inline 6 or Rotary for DPi 2.0? )
  • The hybrid tech will be kind of cool, just curious to see how it's integrated into the series.
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Cameron Storms to Road America Pole in Acura Sweep


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Dane Cameron has claimed pole for Sunday’s Road America Road Race Showcase, continuing Acura Team Penske’s streak of dominance this weekend.

Cameron reeled off a 1:48.715 in the DPi championship-leading No. 6 Acura ARX-05 in Saturday’s 15-minute qualifying session, which was interrupted for an off-course excursion by a LMP2 car.

It ended up leading an all-Acura front row, thanks to a late flyer by Helio Castroneves in the sister No. 7 entry.

Both the Brazilian’s 1:48.731 and Cameron’s pole-winning time were under the race lap record held by Marco Werner in an Audi R10 TDI from ten years ago.

The Canadian Tire Motorsport Park-winning No. 77 Team Joest Mazda RT24-P of Oliver Jarvis qualified third, ahead of teammate Jonathan Bomarito in fourth.

Simon Trummer completed the top-five as the quickest of the Cadillac DPi-V.Rs in the No. 84 JDC-Miller Motorsports entry.

A red flag for the No. 52 PR1/Mathiasen Motorsports Oreca 07 Gibson of Matt McMurry, who spun off in Turn 3, saw the resumption of the session with five minutes to go, which saw a handful of improvements.

McMurry’s incident ultimately cost him the LMP2 class pole, as IMSA eliminated the car’s two fastest laps due to bringing out the red.

It gave the top qualifying position to James French in the No. 38 Performance Tech Motorsports Oreca.

The Road America Road Race Showcase gets underway Sunday at 1:35 p.m. CT.
Bad news is the Acura dominance continues but it looks like Mazda is right behind them in 3rd and 4th position for tomorrow's race!
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Considering the RT24s weren't exactly running away from the field with their wins, this is going to be a tough race. Everything will have to go right and the Acuras will have to screw up once.
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Almost an hour in and it's absolutely the Acura show thus far.
Mazda running 3rd and 4th but they just cannot bridge the speed gap and are consistently 2-5 seconds behind the Acura cars.

Stupid BoP
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Soooo close to passing one of the Acuras on a pit stop.
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Mazda running 2nd and 3rd!
GTLM cars decided to play bumper cars, debris went flying everywhere and a chunk got stuck under the race leading Acura. They had to pit to get it dislodged and Mazda jumped up.

C'mon Mazda!
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Tinknell with a crazy move and PASSES the #7 Acura.
Mazda leading the race!

Considering how trimmed out the Mazda's are running that move took *****.
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42 minutes to go and Mazda still leading the race.
The DPi's will need one more fuel stop so things could get interesting.

The #7 Acura that had the debris under the car is on a totally different fuel window due to that unscheduled stop but they should still need a top off.

We'll see.
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Stupid F'ing yellow Cadillac! Wtf.
Down a lap and hitting the 77 car.

Mazda okay, doesn't appear there was much damage. That could have been way worse but either way totally unnecessary
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11 minutes to go and Mazda running 1st and 3rd!
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#55 wins AGAIN!!!

Holy **** what a finish. Came down to the last lap, the last few turns.
Tinknell had to do some crazy defensive driving to keep Dane Cameron behind him.

Mazda finishes 1st and 3rd
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Awesome ! So the Mazda wins even with all the handicaps added!
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Yup!
Honestly we had a little help from the racing gods.
Two of the GT cars slammed into each other, body panels went flying and got stuck under the race leading Acura. They had to pit and never recovered. That put both Mazda's in podium contention and the Acura didn't have a wingman to aid in traffic.
Either way amazing race by the 55
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Thanks for the updates, Jedi! What a win! Genuinely happy for them and Doonan. I had faith in Team Joest from the get-go, and this certainly cements that in.

I didn't have the opportunity to lock my eyes into the race this weekend. I had my wife stream it on her phone while I was driving the entire race until the final two minutes.

What happened during the last few minutes during the battle between the #55 Mazda and #6 Acura? I saw some bumping and debris flying with the corner of my eye and the mention of "penalty" by one of the hosts.


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