Nice, what do I know...lol.

Well, I guess since it's a rare model...right? How many are they going to build? Also...remember that those extra seats in the back (no matter how tight) might appeal to people looking at the C6 and Mustang.

Perrrrrrrrrrfect, oh...and fight about money too...why 25K...let's take it to 22....LOL, now I'm just dreaming. I'd love to see the GT and Z28 battle go on again, it benefits the customer.

I don't agree with them taking it there, but like Bascho said they sold them all so I'm fully wrong on that (heck...limited edition cars are great for it's image), but saying a 40-45K 500HP sports car is a ripoff is pretty foolish. :nono:

I have not heard the exact number....but in 2003 SVT made 13,000 Cobras.....in 2004 they made 5,000. I can find out......but I would guess no more than 10,000......probably closer to 5,000 considering the Shelby name.

This is off topic, but did anyone else watch the muscle car shootout on SPEED last night? They took 8 factory original muscle cars from the late 60's early 70's and ran them through modern testing. The reason for the retest is that a lot of the manufacturers would send prep's cars to magazine tests to get better numbers. I don't remember all the cars years, but they were all the baddest of the era.

'69 Boss 429
'70? GTO Judge
'69? Chevelle 454SS
'69 Camaro SS LS6?
'71? Buick GS (some special version)
'70? Hemi Challenger
'70? Olds Cutlass 455 Stage 1
'71? AMC something or other

Well, the '69 Boss 429 won the 0-60 test with a 5.013 sec time. The next closest time was a 5.239.....don't remember which car. I have the rest of the show on DVR and I will be watching tonight. They will do braking tests and 1/4 mile. It is really funny to watch the tests because these are really valuable cars and the guys are really pushing them hard.

Sorry for going off topic.....it's just funny that the baddest cars for the 60's would be wasted by a lot of modern performance cars.....even those with turbo 4cyl engines. Granted they were testing these cars on the factory correct tires for the era......so that had a big impact.

i think its going to be a low 4 second car at that weight. i think even the z06 is a high 3 second car.

Because it's still a Mustang.

Lutz has said publicly that he would use the LS7 in the new Camaro if need be.

The Camaro was NEVER meant to be a competitor of the Cobra (especially as of late). The V6 models were matched up just fine, the Z28 and the GT were also similar. The SS/WS6 were just beefed up versions of the Z28/Trans Am models. Once Ford put the blower on the Cobra and upped the price into the high 30's, they were aiming it as a competitor of the Vette. The price difference is too much IMO to see it as a car to compete against the f-bodys.

the blower wasn't put on till 2004, 2 years after the last f-bode rolled off the line. The old Gt's were getting killed by the ws6,ss, and even stock t/a's and z28, so the 99,01 cobras were ment to compete with all the v8 class f-bodies (no svt in 2000 because of the cobra R production.) Even then they were still a bit slower.
Plus the 99 model cobra advertised 320hp but was dynoed slightly over a stock gt (277 i believe.) So 2001 it was corrected to 320hp.

The first SC Cobra was MY03 which I believe was released in 2002 (can't remember for sure).

You are correct. The S/C Cobra was first introduced as a 2003 model year in the summer of 2002. The Cobra was unchanged for the 2004 model year.

......there was a PCM issue that was causing a few early build 1999's to have a lower output than 320hp. The issue was resolved and all 1999-2002 Cobras had 320hp after getting the new PCM under recall.

500hp!! Argh! argh! arghr! :rock:

I knew you would like that :D:

Seeing as it will be tuned by Shelby, I would be willing to bet that the GT500 will not just be about Power. But I expect it to be on par with the old Cobra's, just a little extra $$ for the Shelby name, which is probably worth it considering collector value.

What's there not to like? 500hp, American V8, factory FI, sexy looks... :ylsuper:

It has a little to do with the fact that the z06 is geared like a top fuel dragster
:mdrmed:
Im positive you can bring it up to 60 in just first gear.
But- i suppose- it also has something to do with the 3000 and some curb weight.. huge ass tires and ls7 :/

You are correct. You can hit 60 in 1st gear.

How bout the 3900lb curb weight? I saw a press video, the ford guy puts the GT500 at just under 2 tons. Its gonna be a dog compared to the Z06. Handling? forgetaboutit.

For the money i'd much rather throw some nasty FI into my 8 :)

I was under the impression Shelby was just giving it his approval and blessing. More of a marketing excercise than a tuning one. SVT is doing all the work.

This car is not meant to compete with the Z06. Given it's price point, more aimed at the regular Vette. HP # helps it compete with the Vette, given it's more extreme weight. For an overall sportscar, the Vette will actually corner well, but for a straightline musclecar & ease of modification (at least cheaply up to about 500-550 hp)the Cobra would be a better car.

just under 2 tons is too much, but OTOH...

if you live in large flat places like Florida... there are no twisties... and no clover leaf highways either. What great difference does amazing handling have then?

The Vette also has only 2 seats... an automatic deal breaker in my book. Same goes for a 350Z, Z4, Cayman, Boxter, etc. I don't do two seater.

Who's comparing the GT500 to the ZO6? The better comparison is GT500 to base C6. Good luck finding a ZO6 for less than $80K right now.....the GT500 is not trading at that level as far as I've heard. The GT500 and base C6 are more of a comparison because they have very similar prices and performance. The extra 100 ponies under the hood helps the heavy Mustang stay with the athletic C6. The ZO6 compares to the Ford GT in performance as well as other cars twice it's price.