2007 GT500 officially rates at 500hp!!
 

WOW!! the new GT500 is officially rated at 500hp. Any Camaro or Challenger is really going to have to 'bring it' now.

We'll always have the twisties!1!!1!!1!1!!
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=76397&stc=1


Seriously though, that's a lot of power. It was rumored to be priced around 45K right?

Isnt Ford axing the SVT department?

Also, that price is not close to that of the Camaro/Challenger...thats Vette territory.

I think the base is $40K.....but with the limited production, these things will be selling for over $50k for sure. I wonder how this car is going to do in testing?
0-60 sub 4 secs??

SVT is not being killed.

Well, the only Camaro that would have that much power would be an SS version which would definitely sell in the same price range. The Challenger with a 425 hp Hemi would definitely be $40K plus......considering all the other SRT8 versions are over $40K. A 500 hp GT500 will probably be faster than the C6 Vette in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.......so why shouldn't it cost as much?

Will it have a solid axle or independent rear suspension? I bet it'll be a hair as faster than the standard C6.

Doubt it. It will be heavier.

We'll have to wait until Ford releases the spec for vehicle weight to find out. All I know is that the GT500 has a 100hp advantage over the C6. The Mustang GT weighs 3,518lbs and the C6 weighs 3,179.

Solid Rear Axle from what I am hearing, and seen in interviews with Ford Execs & Shelby.

I had the z06 specs in my head when i replied... sorry :(

I think with the 100hp advantage it will be faster then a c6 @ 400hp.

The solid axle has been working just fine in the various racing segments.

Just because something works 'just fine', doesn't mean other alternatives wouldn't work better. However, I realize the target audience of this car and I understand why they choose the solid rear.

That's true.....but IRS would have added weight to an already heavy car and also the cost would be higher. I'm sure some cost/benefit analysis was done and the IRS was not that much better than the 3-link solid axle to justify a cost and weight increase.

The 5.4L DOHC is huge and heavy. Now it has an iron crankcase and a blower. Sheesh, if that lump weighs less than 650 lbs I would be surprised. I'll take a 485 lb / 400 hp LS2 engine anyday. Better yet how about a 500 lb / 500 hp LS7.

for 25k more you can have that
:rock:

Not sure on the durability of the new Z06 engine. They had an ATI SC'ed car but blew up the motor. Not sure if it was the tune or the fact that motor is pushing out everything it can already. I have a video with a guy putting in tons of nitrous on it, but long term reliability of that engine on the juice is ???

The LS7 has got to be pretty strong, it has lots of Ti and forged parts throughout and cast iron sleeves for reinforcement in the cylinder chambers. But it's compression is like 11.0:1, which doesn't really lend it to too much boost.

edit, here's a link with details:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/

There's a strong chance that it may.
Ford scrapped the adrenaline truck project and note that they removed any SVT badging on the GT500. I read an article (this month motortrend) that said they have very little projects open and may possibly get scrapped to save money.

So is this before or after they fixed the crank shaft problem where it would break and uses a 26lb balancer?

http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.ph..._articleid=237

It can be made to handle the boost:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/Lingenfe...boCorvette.htm

800 hp :ylsuper:

Why should the Camaro have to bring something?

The Camaro will "compete" with the GT (in the way that the old F-bods "competed" with the old GTs....ie stomped all over them :)). The base model C6 should be plenty for the GT500 considering curb weights.

And just try getting a GT500 for MSRP anytime in the first couple years.

As just stated by therm8, I actually suggest that GM not chase after the GT500 (with the next Camaro) for the simple fact that these cars were originally made to be affordable to most people and at the rate the Mustang is going with the GT500 they are going against all that history.

Congrats to Ford for bringing a 40-45K 500HP sports car into the world (the more the better) but as stated they will probably be going for 55K and in the end of the day I don't think a Mustang is worth that price...no matter how much HP they stick in it.

Come on Ford, spend some money making the GT lighter, better quality interior, and more fuel efficent instead of pricing it into rich only land.

No offense Basho...o buddy o pal, but I'd rather have the C6 than the GT500.

If GM can pull off a Z28 LS4 330HP 3300 pound car sold for 25K and make the new Camaro look like the concept, I think they would have a smash hit. If anything...let the SS chase the GT500...but keep us normal folk within reach with the Midgrade model V8's.

Heck...stick a SC/Turbo on the LS4 and add some internal hardware (unlike our Renesis that has no such cost effective ability) and I'd bet you would be hitting high 400HP if not reach the 500HP level at a much lower price if sold at 25K that is.

The Adrenalin was pushed back a year to 2008......it wasn't killed. We usually get an e-mail about every vehicle that is being killed. SVT doesn't have badges on the GT500 because Shelby allowd his name to be used for this project. Adding SVT to the name would make it waay to long......not to mention Shelby sounds better :)

They could build the Camaro program in the same way as Ford built the Mustang.....three versions. There are plenty of Camaro junkies that would happily spend $50K on a 505hp Camaro SS. I just found out that all the 2007 GT500's are already sold.......pretty amazing since we don't start building them until June 6th.

You already know that I agree with you on this point :)

Normally I would agree with this statement......but investment wise, the GT500 will hold it's value waaaay better than a base C6. I love the C6 Vette, so I do think the C6 would be a better car all around.

This scenario could play out.......and it would force Ford to add some ponies to the Mustang's GT engine offering.

Take a look at the GT500 section of SVTperformance.com. I find it rather humorous that current Cobra owners think that a $46K Mustang is a rip off.

Nice, what do I know...lol.

Well, I guess since it's a rare model...right? How many are they going to build? Also...remember that those extra seats in the back (no matter how tight) might appeal to people looking at the C6 and Mustang.

Perrrrrrrrrrfect, oh...and fight about money too...why 25K...let's take it to 22....LOL, now I'm just dreaming. I'd love to see the GT and Z28 battle go on again, it benefits the customer.

I don't agree with them taking it there, but like Bascho said they sold them all so I'm fully wrong on that (heck...limited edition cars are great for it's image), but saying a 40-45K 500HP sports car is a ripoff is pretty foolish. :nono:

I have not heard the exact number....but in 2003 SVT made 13,000 Cobras.....in 2004 they made 5,000. I can find out......but I would guess no more than 10,000......probably closer to 5,000 considering the Shelby name.

This is off topic, but did anyone else watch the muscle car shootout on SPEED last night? They took 8 factory original muscle cars from the late 60's early 70's and ran them through modern testing. The reason for the retest is that a lot of the manufacturers would send prep's cars to magazine tests to get better numbers. I don't remember all the cars years, but they were all the baddest of the era.

'69 Boss 429
'70? GTO Judge
'69? Chevelle 454SS
'69 Camaro SS LS6?
'71? Buick GS (some special version)
'70? Hemi Challenger
'70? Olds Cutlass 455 Stage 1
'71? AMC something or other

Well, the '69 Boss 429 won the 0-60 test with a 5.013 sec time. The next closest time was a 5.239.....don't remember which car. I have the rest of the show on DVR and I will be watching tonight. They will do braking tests and 1/4 mile. It is really funny to watch the tests because these are really valuable cars and the guys are really pushing them hard.

Sorry for going off topic.....it's just funny that the baddest cars for the 60's would be wasted by a lot of modern performance cars.....even those with turbo 4cyl engines. Granted they were testing these cars on the factory correct tires for the era......so that had a big impact.

i think its going to be a low 4 second car at that weight. i think even the z06 is a high 3 second car.

Because it's still a Mustang.

Lutz has said publicly that he would use the LS7 in the new Camaro if need be.

The Camaro was NEVER meant to be a competitor of the Cobra (especially as of late). The V6 models were matched up just fine, the Z28 and the GT were also similar. The SS/WS6 were just beefed up versions of the Z28/Trans Am models. Once Ford put the blower on the Cobra and upped the price into the high 30's, they were aiming it as a competitor of the Vette. The price difference is too much IMO to see it as a car to compete against the f-bodys.

the blower wasn't put on till 2004, 2 years after the last f-bode rolled off the line. The old Gt's were getting killed by the ws6,ss, and even stock t/a's and z28, so the 99,01 cobras were ment to compete with all the v8 class f-bodies (no svt in 2000 because of the cobra R production.) Even then they were still a bit slower.
Plus the 99 model cobra advertised 320hp but was dynoed slightly over a stock gt (277 i believe.) So 2001 it was corrected to 320hp.

The first SC Cobra was MY03 which I believe was released in 2002 (can't remember for sure).

You are correct. The S/C Cobra was first introduced as a 2003 model year in the summer of 2002. The Cobra was unchanged for the 2004 model year.

......there was a PCM issue that was causing a few early build 1999's to have a lower output than 320hp. The issue was resolved and all 1999-2002 Cobras had 320hp after getting the new PCM under recall.

500hp!! Argh! argh! arghr! :rock:

I knew you would like that :D:

Seeing as it will be tuned by Shelby, I would be willing to bet that the GT500 will not just be about Power. But I expect it to be on par with the old Cobra's, just a little extra $$ for the Shelby name, which is probably worth it considering collector value.

What's there not to like? 500hp, American V8, factory FI, sexy looks... :ylsuper:

It has a little to do with the fact that the z06 is geared like a top fuel dragster
:mdrmed:
Im positive you can bring it up to 60 in just first gear.
But- i suppose- it also has something to do with the 3000 and some curb weight.. huge ass tires and ls7 :/

You are correct. You can hit 60 in 1st gear.

How bout the 3900lb curb weight? I saw a press video, the ford guy puts the GT500 at just under 2 tons. Its gonna be a dog compared to the Z06. Handling? forgetaboutit.

For the money i'd much rather throw some nasty FI into my 8 :)

I was under the impression Shelby was just giving it his approval and blessing. More of a marketing excercise than a tuning one. SVT is doing all the work.

This car is not meant to compete with the Z06. Given it's price point, more aimed at the regular Vette. HP # helps it compete with the Vette, given it's more extreme weight. For an overall sportscar, the Vette will actually corner well, but for a straightline musclecar & ease of modification (at least cheaply up to about 500-550 hp)the Cobra would be a better car.

just under 2 tons is too much, but OTOH...

if you live in large flat places like Florida... there are no twisties... and no clover leaf highways either. What great difference does amazing handling have then?

The Vette also has only 2 seats... an automatic deal breaker in my book. Same goes for a 350Z, Z4, Cayman, Boxter, etc. I don't do two seater.

Who's comparing the GT500 to the ZO6? The better comparison is GT500 to base C6. Good luck finding a ZO6 for less than $80K right now.....the GT500 is not trading at that level as far as I've heard. The GT500 and base C6 are more of a comparison because they have very similar prices and performance. The extra 100 ponies under the hood helps the heavy Mustang stay with the athletic C6. The ZO6 compares to the Ford GT in performance as well as other cars twice it's price.