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bascho 05-03-2006 11:26 AM

2007 GT500 officially rates at 500hp!!
 
WOW!! the new GT500 is officially rated at 500hp. Any Camaro or Challenger is really going to have to 'bring it' now.

BlueEyes 05-03-2006 11:35 AM

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Seriously though, that's a lot of power. It was rumored to be priced around 45K right?

camaro194 05-03-2006 11:37 AM

Isnt Ford axing the SVT department?

Also, that price is not close to that of the Camaro/Challenger...thats Vette territory.

bascho 05-03-2006 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Seriously though, that's a lot of power. It was rumored to be priced around 45K right?

I think the base is $40K.....but with the limited production, these things will be selling for over $50k for sure. I wonder how this car is going to do in testing?
0-60 sub 4 secs??

bascho 05-03-2006 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by camaro194
Isnt Ford axing the SVT department?

Also, that price is not close to that of the Camaro/Challenger...thats Vette territory.


SVT is not being killed.

Well, the only Camaro that would have that much power would be an SS version which would definitely sell in the same price range. The Challenger with a 425 hp Hemi would definitely be $40K plus......considering all the other SRT8 versions are over $40K. A 500 hp GT500 will probably be faster than the C6 Vette in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.......so why shouldn't it cost as much?

Red Devil 05-03-2006 11:43 AM

Will it have a solid axle or independent rear suspension? I bet it'll be a hair as faster than the standard C6.

cleoent 05-03-2006 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Red Devil
Will it have a solid axle or independent rear suspension? I bet it'll be a hair as faster than the standard C6.

Doubt it. It will be heavier.

bascho 05-03-2006 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by cleoent
Doubt it. It will be heavier.


We'll have to wait until Ford releases the spec for vehicle weight to find out. All I know is that the GT500 has a 100hp advantage over the C6. The Mustang GT weighs 3,518lbs and the C6 weighs 3,179.

Fanman 05-03-2006 12:28 PM

Solid Rear Axle from what I am hearing, and seen in interviews with Ford Execs & Shelby.

cleoent 05-03-2006 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by bascho
We'll have to wait until Ford releases the spec for vehicle weight to find out. All I know is that the GT500 has a 100hp advantage over the C6. The Mustang GT weighs 3,518lbs and the C6 weighs 3,179.

I had the z06 specs in my head when i replied... sorry :(

I think with the 100hp advantage it will be faster then a c6 @ 400hp.

bascho 05-03-2006 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Fanman
Solid Rear Axle from what I am hearing, and seen in interviews with Ford Execs & Shelby.


The solid axle has been working just fine in the various racing segments.

BlueEyes 05-03-2006 12:41 PM

Just because something works 'just fine', doesn't mean other alternatives wouldn't work better. However, I realize the target audience of this car and I understand why they choose the solid rear.

bascho 05-03-2006 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Just because something works 'just fine', doesn't mean other alternatives wouldn't work better. However, I realize the target audience of this car and I understand why they choose the solid rear.

That's true.....but IRS would have added weight to an already heavy car and also the cost would be higher. I'm sure some cost/benefit analysis was done and the IRS was not that much better than the 3-link solid axle to justify a cost and weight increase.

babylou 05-03-2006 03:28 PM

The 5.4L DOHC is huge and heavy. Now it has an iron crankcase and a blower. Sheesh, if that lump weighs less than 650 lbs I would be surprised. I'll take a 485 lb / 400 hp LS2 engine anyday. Better yet how about a 500 lb / 500 hp LS7.

cleoent 05-03-2006 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by babylou
Better yet how about a 500 lb / 500 hp LS7.

for 25k more you can have that
:rock:

Fanman 05-03-2006 03:47 PM

Not sure on the durability of the new Z06 engine. They had an ATI SC'ed car but blew up the motor. Not sure if it was the tune or the fact that motor is pushing out everything it can already. I have a video with a guy putting in tons of nitrous on it, but long term reliability of that engine on the juice is ???

Red Devil 05-03-2006 04:21 PM

The LS7 has got to be pretty strong, it has lots of Ti and forged parts throughout and cast iron sleeves for reinforcement in the cylinder chambers. But it's compression is like 11.0:1, which doesn't really lend it to too much boost.

edit, here's a link with details:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/

adrian-1 05-03-2006 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by bascho
SVT is not being killed.?

There's a strong chance that it may.
Ford scrapped the adrenaline truck project and note that they removed any SVT badging on the GT500. I read an article (this month motortrend) that said they have very little projects open and may possibly get scrapped to save money.

ucfracerx8 05-03-2006 05:04 PM

So is this before or after they fixed the crank shaft problem where it would break and uses a 26lb balancer?

http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.ph..._articleid=237

camaro194 05-03-2006 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Red Devil
The LS7 has got to be pretty strong, it has lots of Ti and forged parts throughout and cast iron sleeves for reinforcement in the cylinder chambers. But it's compression is like 11.0:1, which doesn't really lend it to too much boost.

edit, here's a link with details:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/

It can be made to handle the boost:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/Lingenfe...boCorvette.htm

800 hp :ylsuper:

therm8 05-03-2006 09:36 PM

Why should the Camaro have to bring something?

The Camaro will "compete" with the GT (in the way that the old F-bods "competed" with the old GTs....ie stomped all over them :)). The base model C6 should be plenty for the GT500 considering curb weights.

And just try getting a GT500 for MSRP anytime in the first couple years.

rx8wannahave 05-04-2006 07:55 AM


or Challenger is really going to have to 'bring it' now.
As just stated by therm8, I actually suggest that GM not chase after the GT500 (with the next Camaro) for the simple fact that these cars were originally made to be affordable to most people and at the rate the Mustang is going with the GT500 they are going against all that history.

Congrats to Ford for bringing a 40-45K 500HP sports car into the world (the more the better) but as stated they will probably be going for 55K and in the end of the day I don't think a Mustang is worth that price...no matter how much HP they stick in it.

Come on Ford, spend some money making the GT lighter, better quality interior, and more fuel efficent instead of pricing it into rich only land.

No offense Basho...o buddy o pal, but I'd rather have the C6 than the GT500.

If GM can pull off a Z28 LS4 330HP 3300 pound car sold for 25K and make the new Camaro look like the concept, I think they would have a smash hit. If anything...let the SS chase the GT500...but keep us normal folk within reach with the Midgrade model V8's.

Heck...stick a SC/Turbo on the LS4 and add some internal hardware (unlike our Renesis that has no such cost effective ability) and I'd bet you would be hitting high 400HP if not reach the 500HP level at a much lower price if sold at 25K that is.

bascho 05-04-2006 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by adrian-1
There's a strong chance that it may.
Ford scrapped the adrenaline truck project and note that they removed any SVT badging on the GT500. I read an article (this month motortrend) that said they have very little projects open and may possibly get scrapped to save money.


The Adrenalin was pushed back a year to 2008......it wasn't killed. We usually get an e-mail about every vehicle that is being killed. SVT doesn't have badges on the GT500 because Shelby allowd his name to be used for this project. Adding SVT to the name would make it waay to long......not to mention Shelby sounds better :)

bascho 05-04-2006 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
As just stated by therm8, I actually suggest that GM not chase after the GT500 (with the next Camaro) for the simple fact that these cars were originally made to be affordable to most people and at the rate the Mustang is going with the GT500 they are going against all that history.

They could build the Camaro program in the same way as Ford built the Mustang.....three versions. There are plenty of Camaro junkies that would happily spend $50K on a 505hp Camaro SS. I just found out that all the 2007 GT500's are already sold.......pretty amazing since we don't start building them until June 6th.


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
Come on Ford, spend some money making the GT lighter, better quality interior, and more fuel efficent instead of pricing it into rich only land.

You already know that I agree with you on this point :)


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
No offense Basho...o buddy o pal, but I'd rather have the C6 than the GT500.

Normally I would agree with this statement......but investment wise, the GT500 will hold it's value waaaay better than a base C6. I love the C6 Vette, so I do think the C6 would be a better car all around.


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
If GM can pull off a Z28 LS4 330HP 3300 pound car sold for 25K and make the new Camaro look like the concept, I think they would have a smash hit. If anything...let the SS chase the GT500...but keep us normal folk within reach with the Midgrade model V8's.

This scenario could play out.......and it would force Ford to add some ponies to the Mustang's GT engine offering.

sti_eric 05-04-2006 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
Congrats to Ford for bringing a 40-45K 500HP sports car into the world (the more the better) but as stated they will probably be going for 55K and in the end of the day I don't think a Mustang is worth that price...no matter how much HP they stick in it.

Take a look at the GT500 section of SVTperformance.com. I find it rather humorous that current Cobra owners think that a $46K Mustang is a rip off.


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