When I left Melbourne back in 1999, it was still "***." I guess you banana-benders had to differentiate between "****" as in body part, and "***" as in Joh Bjelke-Peterson or Pauline Hanson. :p

 

Correct We don't care if those ***'s slam shut, just not the ****! Hehehe.

 

I'm refering to my 94 Rx-7. Stock vs stock with an FD would be close, but with FD's being able to run 13.5 bone stock and the GTO weighing near 4000 lbs I would guess the GTO will run high 13's.

My rx7 has 350 rwhp and weighs 2735 lbs. So yes I have no doubt my rx7 will rape a GTO. My Rx8 is my grocery getter and is not getting modded.

 

Fast in a straight line.....slow in the curves......most RX-8 people are about balance.

I really don't like being called names but if it makes you feel better....

 

I think the Baller is right, he is just to nice to tell you that you must be a white trash, trash mouth punk with a small dick.
GM products are getting better but they cancelled the F-bodies for a good reason.....because they have no quality....just junk..rattle traps....good bye to the F-body may they all rust to the ground.

 

fiberglass doesn't rust, but good try

 

Thanks RX_999!!!

The F-body cars are metal and heavy metal at that.....sorry Zerobanger........

 

When did they go from fiberglass to metal? Please elaborate.

 

The F-bodies (Camaro and Firebirds) have always been steel, only the hoods and front fenders on the newer ones is plastic.......so they will indeed rust to the ground.....or break.

The Baller
owner of many GM products (when they made good products before 1969) and a Hummer 2 that I traded in because it was the biggest pile I have ever owned.

 

Use this to clean your screen...use your mouse to move it around...
http://www.200dw.com/screencleaner

 

Knock off the flames guys.

 

I know you like F-bodies and thats cool, but its going to take more than a "DROP" of suspension work to outhandle an Rx-8. My friend weighted is LS1 T/A and it weighed in at 3550 lbs. Thats about a 600 lbs weight difference. That alone is a very severe deficite for the LS1 based car to make up. Believe it or not the heavier the car is the more it is going to whale going into to the turns. Next, consider that the Rx-8 has 50/50 weight distribution, that the engine is several inches (I think 6) behind the front axle and the gas tank is infront of the rear axle. Combine that with the limited slip differential and an exceptional IRS, the F-body is not going to outhandle an rx-8.

It would need an insane amount of work and money and the rx-8 can be upgraded too.

This is not to flame the LS1, handling is not what it was designed to do.

 

LS-1 vs. Rotary

Ok let me start off that this post is not intended to flame, so don't take it that way. I don't really see comparing a renesis and LS-1 as quite fair. Try comparing your stock LS-1 to oh say a ferrari engine. The ferrari engine is better, but it is more expensive. Rotaries have a very low cost of production, so I believe that it would be more fair to compare a rotary engine comparable in price to an LS1. Stock at the drag track the LS1 win will, because the rotary's position in the car and lighter weight make it more favorable for handling. Saying that a modded LS1 car will outhandle a stock RX-8 is like saying that a modded renesis will put out more power than a stock LS1. You can't accept only one of those statements.

Pushrod V-8's are ancient technology. However, they are ancient technology that still works well. It is kinda like a cathode ray tube. Look at a CRT (old tv) tv. A comparable CRT vs. a flat screen is much heavier, larger and cheaper. I see the flat screen kinda like the DOHC if that analogy helps.

 

The above too............give me a break, learn to spell then get your license.

The Baller

 

Well, wakeech said it earlier but it bears repeating:

DOHC isn't flat out superior to pushrod across the board. DOHC engines tend to put out more power per cubic inch of cylinder displacement, but pushrods take up less space and put out more power per unit of total engine mass.

If I recall correctly, the 350 horsepower 5.7L pushrod V8 in the GTO weighs less than the 300 horsepower 4.6L DOHC NorthStar V8 in the XLR.

 

You're a funny guy baller, but looks are not everything. Your only defense it too presume i am a minor and that for some reason i can't spell. Hmm my spelling looks fine, i think your ghetto mind can't understand English. So you're not only an ignorant fool but a retard also. I see it clearly now. Well i now believe you are just a little ricer without a clue to how a car works. I would question you owning anything other than a kia wagon. Congratulations you are the joke of many sites right now loser. LOL.

By the way i've already shown what you can do too an f-body to maneuver it well. Sorry to say but my car like others of my kind with the same work will keep up through the twisties with you. Totally run and the misconception is really sad. Why would you compare a ferrari to an Rx-8?? The Rx-8 is the same price so why wouldn't you compare two cars which cost the same to each other? For the price of a ferrari i can buy a ZO6 which will outhandle it with a little work and blow it away on the straights with a little work and still save a good 100k. Bad analogy on the ferrari part. Stock for stock an rx-8 will outhandle an f-body.

The response though is too the fact that this moron baller is bashing a car which he knows nothing about. The two cars are in different categories. Stock for Stock it's not a race in the 1/4. Handeling is in the rx-8's corner. I can't understand calling an ohv f-body crap like this moron said. If the engine is so bad then why can't you keep up baller? Well i tell you, even if YOU had 500 horsepower in a 69 cheville you still wouldn't be able to keep up with a stock civic because you are an ignorant freak who uses the same moronic, simplisitic argument which proves nothing in your defense. Why don't you go ban me again because you can't understand what i'm talking about due to your limits of brain power in your narrow minded skull you dumb bitch. You've been OWNED!:D

 

I've got all night- want to sit here remaking screennames while I keep banning you? Perhaps you didn't understand the TOS you agreed to when you signed up. State your opinions politely, and you're fine. Attack members for no reason, and you'll continue to be banned. There is no reason for this crap.

 

I love drama!

 

Hmm i have a page of comments on how much was said against Ls1's, Fbodies, Gto's, Etc.
Yup banned, but yet others on here can call names and bash cars way before i was here.--bashing others cars. Hmm calling white trash. But his post doesn't get deleted. Maybe because this is bias.

Hyprocritical. You can say stuff about other cars but when somebody debates you then you ban them. Good one.

Since you spew so much stuff against our cars, don't bother ever coming to any of our sites. You do not want to hear it and neither do we. This whole deal has been posted on our sites and will be documented of how hyprocritical this site is.

You can also delete certain posts but it's all been copied.

 

Fascism strikes again!!!

 

Can I have a link to your sites?

 

Well if you would actually read the post instead of look and flame you would see that nowhere did I compare an RX8 to a Ferrari, and that my name is not baller. First of all the cost of the cars is not to close together. I got my GT package for $4k less than the base price of a GTO. I think that comparably equipped RX8 and GTO is about $8k. With that I believe I could put in a turbo that would make it more powerful than a GTO stock is. What I really did do is make a point, which you happened to read right through. It is not fair to compare an RX8 or GTO engine to a Ferrari, because the Ferrari engine costs much more. For the same reason it is also unfair to comparea stock a Renesis stock and LS1 stock, a decently large price difference. As I said before the Renesis is very cheap to make, even though it cost a lot of money to develop. They have a very low cost of production, lower than the cost of a LS1. Also my rotary engine is more reliable than your LS1. Put them under the same normal driving condition stress and the rotary will live longer. This is probably irrelevant to you because you will just trade in your car in 5 years or so. Hopefully your repair bills for the car aren't that large by then. I plan to keep the RX8 for as many miles as it will go while still being cost effective.