9-K Rever

I agree. I love APEX Japan's reviews. It takes those guys forever to update, but when they do they give the good info.

9-K Rever

9-K Rever

You can like it or dislike it. It makes no diffrence.

As I have said before I go back and forth to Japan often. In the Japanese market the Legacy is a serious competitor with twin turbos and 280bhp. Not like the USDM version. I have been waiting for the Legacy here to get some ***** and it finaly will.

9-K Rever

nk_Rx8

You're an idiot. I'll give you a hint. We are consistently in the top10 for revenue in Crane's largest publicly owned companies in Chicago. There are a lot of the German car driving manager, but I have been shocked by some of the cars people have driven.

Face it, you are insecure. And here's a clue, many of people who you seem to strive so hard to impress don't really give a crap about the RX8 either. They just think that you couldn't afford an M3 or some other German sports car. Being seen in a Legacy is just like being seen in an Accord that, yes, many people including upper level managers drive. I know because I see them in the reserved spots. So it's a good thing that not everyone is still living with a 'highschool attitude' like you are and only buys what they think others want to see.

Plus, did you ever think that maybe some fo these guys actually race their cars or owns more than one car, and maybe uses a fun car as a commuter car? I know for a fact that one director at my company just got his SCCA competition license last year and does track his car. And I'll bet you he does a little more and makes a little more than the guy that gets coffee. And it's not everyone is in sales or is a realtor where you'll be driving a client around. It is a car that gets them to work! Sheesh.

Speed-ER doc

I'm not insecure, and I can afford to drive almost any car I want. The new Legacy looks like a reasonable car from the outside anyway, compared to the other alternatives mentioned above, with the limitations of interior design. Performance looks good.

I stand by my points regarding perceptions however. If you don't care about others' perceptions of you, you will never advance to the higher echelons of any business. Facial piercings and tats are examples. Teen-racer ricer cars are another.

Now go get me some coffee flunky, and clean up this mess.

nk_Rx8

Resorting to insults just like you had to in the other post just tells me that you have nothing else to add and that I hit something sensitive. You really do need the approval of those around you as to what you drive. You just wrote a couple posts pretty much about how you wouldn't drive certain cars because you're afraid of what people in the business world would think of you. If it quacks like a duck...

If I owned an STi/Evo I would drive it to work. Everyone already knows that I participate in lapping/track events now and then and noone would be surprised nor would it change their impressions of me or my work. It's actually been a good conversation topic at times. I probably wouldn't pick up a client in the STi/Evo, mainly because we send limos for that, but also because I would be concerned about their comfort. Those cars are not associated with comfort, but then again neither is the RX8. I have another car for luxury and comfort. But I would still feel fine driving an Evo/STi or actually any car to work.

Not everyone who is in a corporate job is just into golf or the other typical hobbies. The more people I meet, the more I am surprised by the variety of hobbies.

shift_zoom8

You said you're not insecure but then you wouldn't pick up a client in a WRX Sti or Evo? Why are you insecure about the lack of ride comfort?

If it quacks like a duck...

Hanzo

You should buy a Mercedes shouldn't you? Why you got a RX8 I am curious. RX8 is not exactly a status symbol.

9-K Rever

Hanzo don't stoop to their level.

Speed-ER doc

I like the SLR McLaren......

I like sports cars with luxury features, I love the rotary, and I fell in love with it when I drove the 8. I think for the money it is the best driving car with the best feel/features and especially fun factor.

I don't want to spend extra money for the badge of a Mercedes or BMW, although they do make nice cars. Mercedes reliability is a lliability, and the BMW dealer was kind of rude and condescending.

I WILL spend the extra money for a Lexus, my wife drives a new GX470, but that is a great car, and fits our needs. Lexus reliability is the best, and everything about Lexus is quality. I almost got the SC430 because I love the convertible, but back seat room was inadequate.

Hanzo

Noh, SLR Mclaren is a shame, the old Mclaren F1 is still the best Mclaren road car. I can't believe its a front engine car.

Lexus has nice interior and Toyota reliability but it is still a Toyota. I think you should go Euro like an Audi S8 or S6 Avant. Japanese cars are not up the par to Euro if you want the status symbol, which seams to be your major concern.

Speed-ER doc

Amazing, I disagree with almost everything you just wrote!

nk_Rx8

Although I don't know if I would pick up a client in an Evo/Sti since comfort is an issue (but good thing we use limos for that). But the funny thing is that regardless of picking up clients, he is even insecure which car to drive to work and leave in the parking lot. I don't even know what most of the employees drive to work, nor do I care. And I'm pretty sure that's how most of my colleagues feel. You can look along the reserved spots at work and see nicer sedans, along with some mundane non-luxury car and minivans. It seems not everyone is embarrassed to drive to work in whatever they feel like. There's sometimes a Harley too. That probably wouldn't be 'professional' enough for him either.

He's one of those guys that label someone as imcompetent because of the car he saw them leave in the lot. Which means he is too quick to judge and make decisions without seeing the whole picture. I would never hire someone like that.

Speed-ER doc

We've really got the "flamers" steaming now!

Obviously English is not your first language, because you are having trouble both reading/understanding my posts as well as expressing your own opinions logically. You should go back and read more carefully.

My biases and attitudes about your piercings, tattoos, sexual preferences, clothing, hairstyle, and yes, automobile choices mean nothing. If you want to continue to be a go-fer, do as you wish.

If you are so good at something that you are irreplaceable, then you can also do as you wish, and your idiosyncracies may be overlooked. You do not strike me as that sort.

On the internet, we are by definition a more liberal bunch than society as a whole, particularly elderly society (over 50). Often these old conservatives are the people who make hiring and firing and promotion decisions. Their attitudes, not mine, are who may determine who moves up. They are the ones who will be judging you, not me. They will notice things about you, believe me, and they will use these subtle cues to decide your fate.

You are the one who keeps saying you need a German car to look successful, not me. All I am saying is you don't want your car to take anything AWAY from your facade of competence. You don't need a car to improve your status (I hope) but you just don't want it to take any away.

Get it? Probably not. We'll see where you are in a few years.....I did try to help. Why I don't know, I must enjoy the abuse.

shift_zoom8

Hanzo und Gretel and nUkE_RX8,

You two are a little dumbed down, aren't you?

Hanzo

Noh, just didn't feel like discussing anymore, kinda boring. Have fun fighting for nothing.

nk_Rx8

I'm not a flamer and I'm not steamed at all. I just think that you think your view is the same all across the board and I'm don't think so.
First, you don't think I'm going to get hired...hmmm...how do you know that I am not the one doing the hiring? Let's just say that every employee sits in a cubicle. I am in a nice office and who's that across the hall from me? Oh yeah...the letters after his name are V.P. I guess I'm not doing too bad for someone who doesn't drive a 7 series.

I understand the conservative attitudes and impressions. But I am saying that commuting to work is not the same as say picking meeting important contacts for the first time. Some of you wouldn't be caught dead commuting in them. No, I wouldn't meet the head of my division in an Evo, but I don't think I would show up in an RX8 either. If you bought the RX8 because you thought you were so much more high and mighty than another car, then boy are you wrong.

I don't understand the notion that one can't drive to work in what they own. Is even a minivan not good enough for you either? It's not exactly a professional executive car. Well, there's a Caravan parked right outside the doors in the 'nice' parking spots. Dang...he would probably be CEO now except for that minivan he got stuck with right?

nk_Rx8

Sorry I actually have a real job and didn't get to check the board till now.

You guys are so funny if you think an RX8 is considered so much 'higher' than other cars. Reality check. It's still just a car. People who own some other cars cars will still look down on it just as you do with other cars. I have no misconceptions on the RX8 like some of you. Just like Boxster guys think the S2000 is japanese crap, while the 911 guys think the Boxster is a cheap pretender.

nk_Rx8

And ER doc,

I'm assuming you're a doc from your sig. If you think the RX8 is so much more professional, then you must not think too badly of the S2000 either right? They are very comparable cars in 'status'. There was a post a while back on the S2000 forums posted by another physician. He was annoyed that all his Z3 and Boxster owning colleagues would hassle him about his car and the 'lower' image it presented and how he should have bought German. They don't even see the car, since it's in the lot, but he made the mistake of telling them about his new car. That is lunacy and is exactly your attitude. I don't watch what people are parking in and I don't really care. They'd better be professional on the job and be competent at their job, but that's it. I don't care if your house is not as big as the next guys, nor if you spent as much on your car.

Speed-ER doc

I'll try to talk slow, using Hulk language so you might understand.........

Bland good.....
minivan good.......
boring good.......
wingy bad.......

btw, being across the hall from a vp is REALLY impressive. I guess my impressions of you were all wrong. Is that so you can get his coffee that much quicker?

oh, your last 2 posts make me want to add... TROLL BAD! HULK SMASH!

cueball

Simmer down everyone.

If the flaming continues I am going to have to close this thread.

Either talk about the Legacy or don't say anything.

shift_zoom8

The Legacy would be ok because it falls under the bland/boring category.

Hey all you WRX Sti/Evo aficionados, Speed-ER doc never said anything about status.

We're talking about gaudiness. Accord fine. Boxster fine. 911 fine (subdued showiness with a tradition among exexutives). G35 fine. RX8 fine as long as it's stock but getting closer to the edge. 350Z possibly fine but awfully close to if not past the limit line. WRX Sti/Evo definitely past the line of acceptability, unless you are higher management level with a baseball cap ok dress culture.

Hanzo

This thread is still off tangent? I guess I need to unsubscribe it.

shift_zoom8

Hanzo, I can infer that the boy in the pic is YOU. Good luck in the Olympics. And remember, among retards, you just may be a genius.

cueball

Congrats shift_zoom8, you just got this thread closed.