coupe07

its oredi discounted, bro..... premier price is actually $720.

coupe07

Bro, agree with u that a few percentage point cun feel any difference.... but most budget films premier package only have at most 80% heat rejection at almost the same price.

comparing apple to apple, premier film to premier film with similar prices, would you consider heat rejection of 80% or 95%? The econo and premier package does really make a difference.

also agree with you on any branded window film is useless if badly installed. but then most brands should have their own period of warranties for customer to go back.

As for $200-$350 window films, i'm pretty sure those are economical packages which have lower spec. (no companies offfer premier packages at that price yet, judging from my homework done). workmanship wise, again, since most companies offer warranties, shldnt be much worries.

CHEERS!!

Genesis

Add a "2nd layer" of tint over the first That would definitely fail LTA....why did you guys suggest that? Pull off the 2nd layer before inspection? Dun get it...too dark anyway. The VK75/40 combo works perfectly the way it is.

Manwe

It is not adhesive my friend. It is polyester if i am not wrong. Curing. Yes.... you will not be able to remove it without destroying first layer. I was thinking more like those extra dark tinting kind of things to make your films darker and not really for performance.

Manwe

By the way, if you are thinking of getting a tint to have cooler aircon etc etc when you are driving then it is fine and the IRR would be quite significant if especially if you use premium and economic packages. However, if you are baking your car in the sun for hours, then I am afraid even the most premium tint would not help. The truth is all electromagnetic waves carries certain amount of energy(with IR the most) and the visible light would still translate into heat once absorb by your car's interior. The heat will continue to rise until equilibrium is reached(rate of heat absorb is = to the rate of heat radiated...and yes, your cars do radiate heat and that is how it cools down beside convection). The equilibrium temperature is dependent of many factors such as material, texture and colour. It wouldn't take very long for the car to reach the equilibrium temperature so cheap and expensive tints would make insignificant difference to the car's temperature after baking. But thankfully, heat does not cause so much degrading to the interiors as much as UV which is largely blocked by the films.

But once the aircon is on, things would be different. Since you are blocking off more IR, it will heat up slower than the cooling effect of aircon. That would translate to less work for your aircon and thus more economical.

Hope I am not typing gibberish. Whoever that is an expert in this area may wanna clarify.

sqflyer

coupe07, are you saying that among the budget films, the best premier range of other brands have at most 80% of heat rejection whereas CoolnLite gives 95%? Even then, I don't think you can really feel the difference and it definitely doesn't make a difference at all once the car is left baking in the sun for anything more than say 60 mins? Has anybody done an experiment to time how long it takes?

We are comparing only premier packages, so let's skip economy packages completely. As for the $200-$350 packages, I'm talking about premier packages but done in M'sia. If you are a nationalist and wish to support only local companies, then by all means pay the high price tag but personally, I'll go wherever I can get the cheapest deal for the same product. The reason why I say workmanship is important is because whenever you remove the rear window film, there is always a risk of peeling off your rear demister lines so you don't want to keep removing and installing window films.

Manwe bro, by adhesive, I don't mean applying the window film like a sticker but there is definitely a layer of something that makes the film stick to the glass. I don't think a piece of plastic will stick just because the installer sprays some water on it. There has to be some chemical layer that mixes with the water and forms some kind of adhesive bond between the film and the glass. I agree that IRR is good coz it helps to keep the air-con happy, but what I was saying is that between the premier range (not between econ & premier) of films, the % difference is small and somewhat negligible. And even the highest IRR is completely negated once the car is left baking for a while. So for those who park their cars in the open while they are at work the whole day, it is completely useless.

One question that I've always had is whether window tinting films also trap heat within the car once the car is heat soaked. If any window tinting expert around, please share your knowledge with us.

coupe07

my other brands only include the budget brands, bro. yes,there might not be any difference. but if given the same price, would anyone take the 80% instead of the 95%? There is wat im trying to put across.

at $200-$350 for premier film, yes, i wld agree it a super good deal. but do take note premier films oso have different specs. Not to say i only support local companies, and i like to pay a premium price. Me, like you, wld go wherever offer the best price. If not, i wld go for Vkool or Huper Optik straight away, no questions asked.

I hope no one is offended, and i dun mean to offend anyone. just sharing some lobangs, if u can call it a lobang, since i had oredi done some comparisons locally.

Cheers to all!!! :D

LsBlack

Think this r real honest & frank sharing of knowledge . Dun think any bro would feel offended . Great job .

sqflyer

Everything's cool, dude... we're just sharing info so those who are considering to get their 8s tinted can benefit from all our views and experiences. There are many sides to the story and there is no single film that can meet everyone's requirements/expectations.

Manwe

Yes definitely not a sticker... It should be polyester or other plastic.

I think it should not retain more heat. The films are normally made of reflective type of material that reflects away a portion of the light. Once the light rays are absorbed by the car's interior, they are transformed into heat energy and thus raise the temperature of the material. After a while, the temperature inside the car would be hotter than outside and heat would be transferred outwards. There is only 3 mode of heat transmission: conduction, convection and radiation. The cars' windows would be heated due to the hot air in the car and would conduct the heat out the the surrounding air. The layer of air close to the window would be cooled and thus sink and hoter air would rise to take the place(convection). Talking about radiation. All these take place in similar fashion as a normal car without any film. Talking about radiation, regardless of the films used, it would be rather futile as most of the energy would be concentrated on the IR which would be bounced back by the glass(remember greenhouse effect?). The attenuated IR that actually escape the glass that might be reflected back(insignificant) would be further bounced off by the glass again(even less significant).

Looking at the whole thing, having a film that stops energy from light from entering the car is the most significant way of reducing heat. We needn't worry too much about the heat trap inside as there is nothing much one can do due to the effect of glass.

Oh, that is also the key reason why solar films are ineffective to prevent heat rising from baking in the sun. Even if the film boast of 100% IRR(theoretical), you still have 70% VLT. Though they carry less energy than IR, they still carry significant and would eventually become heat once absorbed by the car's interior. So a car with good film may heat up slower but the final temperature would be insignificant.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Manwe

By the way, how much does it cost to v-kool in m'sia? Would it be the price we pay in ringgit?

wootwoot

yup pay in ringgits

LsBlack

hi guys,finally ve mine done by cool n lite at $580.00 for cnl80=vlt70% for all.(not the best price though)
v kool quoted $1200.00 for vk75 & vk40,and my bargin skill cannot make it.(oso no $ lah)

Thanks for all the help.

Manwe

we did it for less than 1k for vk75 and vk40(including the roof). Cannot recall the sum anymore. Genesis, can remember?

coupe07

580 is very cheap liao... mine is 600 but all sides except windscreen 25% vlt......

wootwoot

its S$950 :D

Manwe

yea...something like that... i think the mystique package was way cheaper at $600+