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08-22-2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by coupe07
yup i agree with flyer. The engine consuming engine oil DOES NOT mean it will burn completely. In fact texas oil does not burn complete in rotary engines. THIS IS A FACT.
Anyway, to correct you, texas's 20W50 oil is NOT thin. in fact in the market this rating is one of the thickest. I also agree with you that the oil does bring down temperature, but that is only for initially. After awhile it goes back to the same as any other oil.
As for Kenko's case, i tink you noe best who is behind this nick hor, janson?
Anyway, to correct you, texas's 20W50 oil is NOT thin. in fact in the market this rating is one of the thickest. I also agree with you that the oil does bring down temperature, but that is only for initially. After awhile it goes back to the same as any other oil.
As for Kenko's case, i tink you noe best who is behind this nick hor, janson?
Coupe07 ake Ivan
Lets go one issue at a time !
First of all, im just here commenting on my views of the oil after using it for so long. thats all. im not discriminating any oils from any brands. does it affect u or ur
monster garage ? and what makes u go rage ? you seems like you wanna condemn Texas Oil ! Anyone can see it i guess..
1) Have u been condemning it and asking ppl not to use it ?
2) what makes u so mad the moment u hear Texas Oil ?
Secondly, FOR YOUR INFO, the oil im using is 5w50 and not 20w50 as what u claimed ! So is that thick or thin ? i just called Royz regarding the thickness while im typing this reply and he claimed that their oil company has never produced this oil !
Yes i do know that you did use Texas Oil in the past and it is Xavier who introduced me in the first place as well. From what i know, Xavier's plug got no problems ! Am i right ? And what makes u so sure that its the oil that damaged your spark plugs which u mentioned in ur reply to Nah.
3) why must u malign Texas Oil in its thickness in the cyber world ?
4) Are u trying to promote your RE oil thats y ur doing this ?
One last question.
5) Are you VERY SURE that Texas Oil cannot be use in rotary engines ?
6) Are u representing Monster Garage in whatever u have said ?
Ivan,
why not answer my questions first and let everyone have a clear view of whats going on before u hit back with lots of replies which im sure u will. kinda sick of reading it.
Before i end this, Yes i do know who is behind the nick Kenko. the purpose of starting that thread is to see what u guys will comment on the oil.
need not avoid. ans the questions !
Good night !
08-22-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RAV369
Janson you said 'i'm neither a salesman nor earning any commission or whatsoever. i'm just a consumer.'
Sigh, i've just about had it with these texasoil people. I may not be local, or even chinese, but i doubt anyone anywhere in the world would be dense enough to get hoodwinked time and again. You say you're an independent? - puhleeze... i think the whole club knows that you're a firm supporter of texas and your ride is chock full of texas logos, and decals all over, so please, do not insult our intelligence coming in here to give your 'impartial' review of the oil.
As i said many times, it's proven that texas oil is NOT advisable for rotary engines. Even for piston engines, it remains to be seen. If you guys are so confident of your product, then be confident enough to either file and publish a patent, and provide substantiation for your claims of nanotechnology and all that rubbish. Finally, you do know that your ads in the local magazines are misleading don't you? all it takes is for some wiseguy to make a complaint up to the authorities for false advertising, and we'll see how far nanotechnology really goes in terms of substantiation. Nuff said and time and again, prove us wrong and we'll clam right up. So in a nutshell:
- nanotechnology: utter bullshit, this doesn't exist
- you're an independent and don't earn a thing: wow, you must be one of those super charitable guys willing to lend your whole car out to a chumpchange company to advertise all over your body - yeah right
- $1k ATF/$300 oil change: who in the world would pay top dollar for a two-bit unproven product?
Sigh, i've just about had it with these texasoil people. I may not be local, or even chinese, but i doubt anyone anywhere in the world would be dense enough to get hoodwinked time and again. You say you're an independent? - puhleeze... i think the whole club knows that you're a firm supporter of texas and your ride is chock full of texas logos, and decals all over, so please, do not insult our intelligence coming in here to give your 'impartial' review of the oil.
As i said many times, it's proven that texas oil is NOT advisable for rotary engines. Even for piston engines, it remains to be seen. If you guys are so confident of your product, then be confident enough to either file and publish a patent, and provide substantiation for your claims of nanotechnology and all that rubbish. Finally, you do know that your ads in the local magazines are misleading don't you? all it takes is for some wiseguy to make a complaint up to the authorities for false advertising, and we'll see how far nanotechnology really goes in terms of substantiation. Nuff said and time and again, prove us wrong and we'll clam right up. So in a nutshell:
- nanotechnology: utter bullshit, this doesn't exist
- you're an independent and don't earn a thing: wow, you must be one of those super charitable guys willing to lend your whole car out to a chumpchange company to advertise all over your body - yeah right
- $1k ATF/$300 oil change: who in the world would pay top dollar for a two-bit unproven product?
no one cares whether u r local or chinese. as far as i know, you are someone in a new reg nick to **** in here.
From what i know, 369 is a code for secret society. are u one of them or u start this new nick to join hands with Ivan aka Coupe07 ? There's lotsa new nicks in Kenko's thread as well and you're of of them participating in the oil war.
pardon me for my english as i know im not as good as you.
FIRST OF ALL,
I DON"T EARN A SINGLE PENNY FROM TEXAS INSTEAD I SPENT MONEY ON TEXAS PRODUCTS. DON"T MALIGN ME.
i don't need Texas to pay me money for typing this to earn a living. im replying to you because i find you bullshit too much and its time for u to go to bed.
YES, Royz from Texas did sponsor me 5L of engine oil to top up my engine oil early this month. Yes, the ATF did cost me close to 1k. no doubts abt it. anything wrong with that ? you are against it ?? or what ? why not lets meet up and tell me straight in my face instead of hiding behind your computer screen. cool ?
hmmm... why not u be the wiseguy to make a complaint up to the authorities for false advertising, and i really wish to know if nanotechnology is really in the oil ? i only know whats nanotechnology thru Xavier, Ivan's friend. he's the one who tell me initially abt this product in the oil. Since u r so confident, go ahead with it. ok ? keep me and everyone inform when u gonna lodge a complaint. OK ?
For ur info, i treat Royz as a friend instead of a mechaniser. got it ? So right now, what gotta concern you when im willing to let my car carry his oil logos when i find it nice. furthermore its free and i can mix and match myself. why not ? furthermore lifetime warranty. you got problems with that as well ? you guy or girl ? why so 38 ???
Since u like to mention proof here and there ? Can i ask u a question then ? who are you and whats so great abt you that a multi million dollars company have to either file and publish a patent, and provide substantiation for their claim of nanotechnology. hmmm.. treat me as a ignorant fool. do u mind tell me which oil company have done so ???
Likewise, show out the proof in whatever u have said as well if not SHUT UP !
If Texas is really a hoax company, im sure authorities with get to them sooner or later and you can start laughing at that time. its still not too late by then. correct ?
before i end this,
whats wrong being a firm supporter of texas when i find it not bad ? some are supporters of Shell, Mineral and Re as well.. So whats wrong with u and whats up ur mind ? So RAV369, put ur finger on ur lips.
ps: i doubt there's any multi million dollars company out there dare to print false information on their pamplets unless they are too rich to be true. Is there any in the past ? do let me know k.. thanks
IF U DARE TO SHOW UR FACE AND TELL ME WHO YOU ARE. IM WILLING TO BRING U TO ANY TEMPLE AND SWEAR THAT I DID NOT RECEIVED ANY CASH MONEY FROM ROYZ, TEXAS COMPANY OR ANY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES BY TYPING ALL THESE, PASTE THEIR DECALS ON MY CAR AND LENDING THEM MY CAR FOR THE FAST AND FURIOUS EVENTS. NEITHER AM I WORKING FOR THEM. THAT IS IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SHOW YOUR TRUE SELF !!!
RAV369,
Good night.
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08-22-2006, 07:57 PM
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Hi Janson, yes, your english is not as good as mine ... not by a longshot
Well if you didn't earn a single cent, like i said, you must be one of those super charitable guys. Hey as per my post in the previous thread, i had this special nanotechnology air where if you breathe it your little one becomes 10x larger. i don't suppose you would want to put my decal on your pecker would you, oh charitable one?
A multi million dollar company selling oil? Big fat deal - i think for many of us, our assets match or exceed this. And most of the regular oil brands far exceed your size. But that's not the point.
The point is this - it is offensive and an insult to our collective intelligence when representatives of Texas Oil come into the forums, pretend to be users, post 'fake' reviews, and make totally unsubstantiated claims. When you make these ridiculous claims of performance and about nanotechnology, ANYONE has a right to rebutt you - this is the freedom of expression we all have rights to constitutionally. So you want me to shut up? Then post your proof points. Since you say you're a multimillion-dollar company that doesn't 'dare print false information on their pamphlets', surely you must have done your research and development before bringing the oil to market? So, just post your claims/benchmarks/UOAs/etc. Unless you're telling us that you're selling oil you have no idea what is in it--- ooooo, now that's scary. Oh and an SAE/API rating means **** -anyone can pay a couple of thousand bucks to get it - SAE/API only tests viscosity and not 'nanotechnology'.
So just in case English is not your first language, let me reiterate what the conversation points are:
- It is wrong to pretend to be a user, come in, post false reviews and make unsubstantiated claims on the product's performance
- There is NO SUCH THING as nanotechnology in motor oil. Please go to BITOG forums to understand.
- If you want me to clam up, then post proof points to back up your claims. (verified by an independent party of course, your credibility in these forums now mean ****)
- If you're doing the endorsements for free, you must either be really charitable or incredibly dumb. Either case, it's your life to do what you want with it.
Oh, and by the way, EVERY major oil producer (Shell, BP, Castrol, Motul, Royal Purple) has done independent lab tests and substantiation. Most do ASTM tests, UOA/VOA analysis and those that have special formulas have specific patents. All this information is available publicly.
If you think about it, there actually is no oil war. All you had to do was to be honest. All these could have been avoided if you had come in at the beginning as 'hey, i'm from texas and i would like to tell you about my oil, and btw, here's what independent testers are saying about the performance of the oil'. Instead, you pretend to be a user(s) 'endorsing' the oil. Now that's why all these rebuttals are happening.
Well if you didn't earn a single cent, like i said, you must be one of those super charitable guys. Hey as per my post in the previous thread, i had this special nanotechnology air where if you breathe it your little one becomes 10x larger. i don't suppose you would want to put my decal on your pecker would you, oh charitable one?
A multi million dollar company selling oil? Big fat deal - i think for many of us, our assets match or exceed this. And most of the regular oil brands far exceed your size. But that's not the point.
The point is this - it is offensive and an insult to our collective intelligence when representatives of Texas Oil come into the forums, pretend to be users, post 'fake' reviews, and make totally unsubstantiated claims. When you make these ridiculous claims of performance and about nanotechnology, ANYONE has a right to rebutt you - this is the freedom of expression we all have rights to constitutionally. So you want me to shut up? Then post your proof points. Since you say you're a multimillion-dollar company that doesn't 'dare print false information on their pamphlets', surely you must have done your research and development before bringing the oil to market? So, just post your claims/benchmarks/UOAs/etc. Unless you're telling us that you're selling oil you have no idea what is in it--- ooooo, now that's scary. Oh and an SAE/API rating means **** -anyone can pay a couple of thousand bucks to get it - SAE/API only tests viscosity and not 'nanotechnology'.
So just in case English is not your first language, let me reiterate what the conversation points are:
- It is wrong to pretend to be a user, come in, post false reviews and make unsubstantiated claims on the product's performance
- There is NO SUCH THING as nanotechnology in motor oil. Please go to BITOG forums to understand.
- If you want me to clam up, then post proof points to back up your claims. (verified by an independent party of course, your credibility in these forums now mean ****)
- If you're doing the endorsements for free, you must either be really charitable or incredibly dumb. Either case, it's your life to do what you want with it.
Oh, and by the way, EVERY major oil producer (Shell, BP, Castrol, Motul, Royal Purple) has done independent lab tests and substantiation. Most do ASTM tests, UOA/VOA analysis and those that have special formulas have specific patents. All this information is available publicly.
If you think about it, there actually is no oil war. All you had to do was to be honest. All these could have been avoided if you had come in at the beginning as 'hey, i'm from texas and i would like to tell you about my oil, and btw, here's what independent testers are saying about the performance of the oil'. Instead, you pretend to be a user(s) 'endorsing' the oil. Now that's why all these rebuttals are happening.
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Lets go one issue at a time !
First of all, im just here commenting on my views of the oil after using it for so long. thats all. im not discriminating any oils from any brands. does it affect u or ur monster garage ? and what makes u go rage ? you seems like you wanna condemn Texas Oil ! Anyone can see it i guess..
No it doesnt affect anyone. I juz felt that its morally wrong, in my point of view. FYI, i'm not raging, U r the one that seems like u r angry..... pls check my post to see which word of mine is condemning texas. I merely said its not suitable for rotary engine, and the oil temp dun hold out long. I did not say its not good at all. PLEASE CHECK BEFORE U COME HERE N ACCUSE. And by the way, ask royz's lawyer to quickly send me his lawyer letter to sue me. I'm in singapore, waiting.
1) Have u been condemning it and asking ppl not to use it ?
Please see carefully, and open ur eyes big big. i did not condemn Texas in any case. I merely said its not suitable for rotary and abt the oil temp, and that is in my opinion after testing.
2) what makes u so mad the moment u hear Texas Oil ?
Hello, i wasnt even the least mad. If the facts are wrong, i come in and comment, THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM. Seems like u n ur royz are even more angry, calling the whole world. Again, i hope ur lawyer letter will come soon if ur royz sees any case to sue....
Secondly, FOR YOUR INFO, the oil im using is 5w50 and not 20w50 as what u claimed ! So is that thick or thin ? i just called Royz regarding the thickness while im typing this reply and he claimed that their oil company has never produced this oil !
20W50 is my error. 5W50 is not thick? Check the viscocity pls....... If u need the details, see http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
Yes i do know that you did use Texas Oil in the past and it is Xavier who introduced me in the first place as well. From what i know, Xavier's plug got no problems ! Am i right ? And what makes u so sure that its the oil that damaged your spark plugs which u mentioned in ur reply to Nah.
Again, u got ur facts wrong. Zavier oil's was mineral oil, blended for him to test. Ask ur mr royz to get his facts rite first before coming in to accuse me. Mineral oil will nvr have any problems in rotary engine. Since want to reveal everything, might as well....
3) why must u malign Texas Oil in its thickness in the cyber world ?
Its still a thick oil, being 5W50.
4) Are u trying to promote your RE oil thats y ur doing this ?
Hello, in this thread, i did not mention RE oil. Dun try to use this tactic against me. Since we r on the topic of texas oil, we will focus on this point. Dun have to drag other brands in.
One last question.
5) Are you VERY SURE that Texas Oil cannot be use in rotary engines ?
Ask Mr Royz to do some serious testing before u come to the cyberworld with this question.
6) Are u representing Monster Garage in whatever u have said ?
This is an open forum. I do not represent anyone, any place. On the other hand R U REPRESENTING TEXAS??????
Ivan,
why not answer my questions first and let everyone have a clear view of whats going on before u hit back with lots of replies which im sure u will. kinda sick of reading it.
If u r sick of reading, u can dun read. PERIOD. I'm sure many others are interested.
Before i end this, Yes i do know who is behind the nick Kenko. the purpose of starting that thread is to see what u guys will comment on the oil.
So u r telling us u r doing a market survey for texas?? So who is representing now?
need not avoid. ans the questions !
I will never avoid, i' m always here to answer ur queries.
Look, janson. If u ever read carefully, i tink its pretty clear who is representing who. U came in with a double nick to promote, and disappear after that. Now u again claim that u come out with this thread to find out comments on texas. All the "accusations" against me, pls point them out. From start til now, i only said its not suitable for rotary engine, which has affected 2 cars oredi, mine included. Both cars are using full synthetic. Both spark plugs showed deposits. Undeniable fact. This is more than enuf evidence after a short period of use. The point of pulling zavier in is pointless. He is using texas blended mineral oil, ask royz abt this. If u need to compare, compare apple to apple pls. In the first place, u said u r commenting ur views on the texas oil. In ur ending msg, u said u started this thread to see others' comments.... If u ever notice, i did not even post a thread similar like urs, promoting my own oil, or asking for comments. So dun have to pull monster in.
C'mon, let not be childish abt this. Everyone is laughing.....
Lets go one issue at a time !
First of all, im just here commenting on my views of the oil after using it for so long. thats all. im not discriminating any oils from any brands. does it affect u or ur monster garage ? and what makes u go rage ? you seems like you wanna condemn Texas Oil ! Anyone can see it i guess..
No it doesnt affect anyone. I juz felt that its morally wrong, in my point of view. FYI, i'm not raging, U r the one that seems like u r angry..... pls check my post to see which word of mine is condemning texas. I merely said its not suitable for rotary engine, and the oil temp dun hold out long. I did not say its not good at all. PLEASE CHECK BEFORE U COME HERE N ACCUSE. And by the way, ask royz's lawyer to quickly send me his lawyer letter to sue me. I'm in singapore, waiting.
1) Have u been condemning it and asking ppl not to use it ?
Please see carefully, and open ur eyes big big. i did not condemn Texas in any case. I merely said its not suitable for rotary and abt the oil temp, and that is in my opinion after testing.
2) what makes u so mad the moment u hear Texas Oil ?
Hello, i wasnt even the least mad. If the facts are wrong, i come in and comment, THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM. Seems like u n ur royz are even more angry, calling the whole world. Again, i hope ur lawyer letter will come soon if ur royz sees any case to sue....
Secondly, FOR YOUR INFO, the oil im using is 5w50 and not 20w50 as what u claimed ! So is that thick or thin ? i just called Royz regarding the thickness while im typing this reply and he claimed that their oil company has never produced this oil !
20W50 is my error. 5W50 is not thick? Check the viscocity pls....... If u need the details, see http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
Yes i do know that you did use Texas Oil in the past and it is Xavier who introduced me in the first place as well. From what i know, Xavier's plug got no problems ! Am i right ? And what makes u so sure that its the oil that damaged your spark plugs which u mentioned in ur reply to Nah.
Again, u got ur facts wrong. Zavier oil's was mineral oil, blended for him to test. Ask ur mr royz to get his facts rite first before coming in to accuse me. Mineral oil will nvr have any problems in rotary engine. Since want to reveal everything, might as well....
3) why must u malign Texas Oil in its thickness in the cyber world ?
Its still a thick oil, being 5W50.
4) Are u trying to promote your RE oil thats y ur doing this ?
Hello, in this thread, i did not mention RE oil. Dun try to use this tactic against me. Since we r on the topic of texas oil, we will focus on this point. Dun have to drag other brands in.
One last question.
5) Are you VERY SURE that Texas Oil cannot be use in rotary engines ?
Ask Mr Royz to do some serious testing before u come to the cyberworld with this question.
6) Are u representing Monster Garage in whatever u have said ?
This is an open forum. I do not represent anyone, any place. On the other hand R U REPRESENTING TEXAS??????
Ivan,
why not answer my questions first and let everyone have a clear view of whats going on before u hit back with lots of replies which im sure u will. kinda sick of reading it.
If u r sick of reading, u can dun read. PERIOD. I'm sure many others are interested.
Before i end this, Yes i do know who is behind the nick Kenko. the purpose of starting that thread is to see what u guys will comment on the oil.
So u r telling us u r doing a market survey for texas?? So who is representing now?
need not avoid. ans the questions !
I will never avoid, i' m always here to answer ur queries.
Look, janson. If u ever read carefully, i tink its pretty clear who is representing who. U came in with a double nick to promote, and disappear after that. Now u again claim that u come out with this thread to find out comments on texas. All the "accusations" against me, pls point them out. From start til now, i only said its not suitable for rotary engine, which has affected 2 cars oredi, mine included. Both cars are using full synthetic. Both spark plugs showed deposits. Undeniable fact. This is more than enuf evidence after a short period of use. The point of pulling zavier in is pointless. He is using texas blended mineral oil, ask royz abt this. If u need to compare, compare apple to apple pls. In the first place, u said u r commenting ur views on the texas oil. In ur ending msg, u said u started this thread to see others' comments.... If u ever notice, i did not even post a thread similar like urs, promoting my own oil, or asking for comments. So dun have to pull monster in.
C'mon, let not be childish abt this. Everyone is laughing.....
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08-22-2006, 09:42 PM
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Oooo did someone say 'lawsuit'? Can I play too?
Please serve your papers to me anytime at:
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Please serve your papers to me anytime at:
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08-22-2006, 11:51 PM
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[Coupe07 ake Ivan
No it doesnt affect anyone. I juz felt that its morally wrong, in my point of view. FYI, i'm not raging, U r the one that seems like u r angry..... pls check my post to see which word of mine is condemning texas. I merely said its not suitable for rotary engine, and the oil temp dun hold out long. I did not say its not good at all. PLEASE CHECK BEFORE U COME HERE N ACCUSE. And by the way, ask royz's lawyer to quickly send me his lawyer letter to sue me. I'm in singapore, waiting.
FYI, im neither angry nor pissed in anyway. i just felt wronged of being accused in coming here to promote Texas Oil. Yes, so what if my car is full of their decals ? im not accusing you. come on.. the way u phase ur sentences makes ppl feel that texas oil is totally not suitable for rotaries engine.
okay, in my opinion..
Yes, you might be right and you might be wrong as i believed you only based on ur past experience to support your sentence. ya ? as for the actual fact ? i believed only analysis done by professional can pass a judgement on that.
As for the lawyer thingy, i've only heard of it long time ago which is like few months back against Zavier cause he flushed out Peter's oil without his knowledge. from what i know, i thought everything has been settled ??
As for ur case, i don't know whats really going on.
1) Have u been condemning it and asking ppl not to use it ?
Please see carefully, and open ur eyes big big. i did not condemn Texas in any case. I merely said its not suitable for rotary and abt the oil temp, and that is in my opinion after testing.
dude, isn't this reply abit contradicting ? as for the actual fact in condemning or not, im not that interested at all as im not into oil business. its the way u phrase ur sentences makes me felt that. thats all.
If u really wanna carry on indulging into this topic, i believed alot of ppl will come into this picture, Ms, ur staffs and dig up all the history as well so i guess its best to cast this aside.
2) what makes u so mad the moment u hear Texas Oil ?
Hello, i wasnt even the least mad. If the facts are wrong, i come in and comment, THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM. Seems like u n ur royz are even more angry, calling the whole world. Again, i hope ur lawyer letter will come soon if ur royz sees any case to sue....
Yes, this is indeed an open forum and everyone has its own freedom of speech in here. Ivan, in actual fact, this is a place full of sg rx8 owners. i believed u have ur respect in here thus u r spreading news thru ur comments indirectly to everyone ears.
likewise, you will also come here to promote Monster Garage as well. why ? cause here is the place where u can spread the news, newest mods, accessories and reviews in the fastest way. am i right ? hold on, don't get mistaken. Its perfectly fine in doing it.
Hope you know what im driving at.
Kindly take back ur words in saying " YOUR ROYZ " !!! i'm neither his subordinate nor earning a living thru him. NEITHER AM I REPRESENTING TEXAS OIL !!! get that in ur mind and change that thinking. the most u can say is im doing a free advert for him by pasting decals in my car. Anyway whats the big fuss over it ??? AIYO~~
20W50 is my error. 5W50 is not thick? Check the viscocity pls....... If u need the details, see http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
Thanks for the info and the url. pardon me for this ques as im kinda interested in it suddenly. before i ask, pls be informed that im not trying to hint, pull brands or whatsoever. okay ? i'm just curious whats the thickness for re oil ? and is it rotary fully syntectic oil ? pardon me for my ignorance. i really dunno.
Yes i do know that you did use Texas Oil in the past and it is Xavier who introduced me in the first place as well. From what i know, Xavier's plug got no problems ! Am i right ? And what makes u so sure that its the oil that damaged your spark plugs which u mentioned in ur reply to Nah.
Again, u got ur facts wrong. Zavier oil's was mineral oil, blended for him to test. Ask ur mr royz to get his facts rite first before coming in to accuse me. Mineral oil will nvr have any problems in rotary engine. Since want to reveal everything, might as well....
Firstly, Do u know that Zavier was the one who introduced Texas to me ? he's the one who tell me that its good and stuffs like that.
Secondly, Roy was the one who told me that Zavier told him he got no problems using his oil.
any mistaken abt it ?
as for the following, correct me if im wrong alright ?
Zavier was using 5w50 initially when he recommended it to me.
later on a specially blended 0w30 oil was given to u and Zavier to test. im also using it at that time after Zavier told me abt it and i approached Royz on that day saying that i wanna BUY.
So is there any problems on his spark plugs when he's using 5w50 ? i seriously wanna know as well cause i've been using it till now. From what i know, Zavier told Roy there's no problems. to be frank, i got no problems in my plugs. i still keep a few used ones at home. i can show it out to u. i changed mine every ard 2mths after i run in.
lastly can i come to a conclusion by saying that you are very sure that its texas oil that damaged your plug ?
curious..
3) why must u malign Texas Oil in its thickness in the cyber world ?
Its still a thick oil, being 5W50.
ok..
4) Are u trying to promote your RE oil thats y ur doing this ?
Hello, in this thread, i did not mention RE oil. Dun try to use this tactic against me. Since we r on the topic of texas oil, we will focus on this point. Dun have to drag other brands in.
cool. this ques was asked due to Peter being offered to Re fully synthetic oil in ur garage by saying that its special. im asking it due to curiousity. i'm willing to apologise for this ques.
Is Re oil fully synthetic rotary oil ?
One last question.
5) Are you VERY SURE that Texas Oil cannot be use in rotary engines ?
Ask Mr Royz to do some serious testing before u come to the cyberworld with this question.
i believed im the first who mentioned the word cyberworld. i take it back as i guess its not allowed in here.
So can i assumed that you are not sure at all then ? you're not sure whether can the oil be used and you're not sure whether the oil will damaged our plugs ? am i right to say this ?
i believed you will definetely say you are very sure if you are confident enough ya.
Cyberworld is a place full of strangers from different location but this is not. most of us know each other and i believed you know 95% of this community.
6) Are u representing Monster Garage in whatever u have said ?
This is an open forum. I do not represent anyone, any place. On the other hand R U REPRESENTING TEXAS??????
Im glad u said this. hmm.. you are one of the shareholders in Monster Garage right ? i believed thru ur popularity in here and the way u promote Monster Garage will kinda mislead ppl.
Oooh.. im not that rich to represent an oil company. haha..
i'll say this again.
Im not here to promote Texas Oil nor am i here to push/sell texas oil. instead im still grumbling on the price of the Atf that cost nearly a thousand bucks. anyway there's a price for everything.
Seriously i hope my engine will be down and i can claim the one million dollars manufactuer warranty.
Ivan,
why not answer my questions first and let everyone have a clear view of whats going on before u hit back with lots of replies which im sure u will. kinda sick of reading it.
If u r sick of reading, u can dun read. PERIOD. I'm sure many others are interested.
be sure and be confident before u pass comments.. (friendly advice)
Before i end this, Yes i do know who is behind the nick Kenko. the purpose of starting that thread is to see what u guys will comment on the oil. you guys will definetely drag me in if im using my nick.
So u r telling us u r doing a market survey for texas?? So who is representing now?
its not a market survey.
i just wanna know what is really happening between u ppl from Ms and Texas as all are friends in the first place but sad to see so many negative remarks. guess there's too many grudges ard here.
i don't wish to use my real nick is not because im scared, inferior or whatsoever.
why ? you can see it for urself in this thread.
who is Rav369 ??
need not avoid. ans the questions !
I will never avoid, i' m always here to answer ur queries.
thanks for that.
Look, janson. If u ever read carefully, i tink its pretty clear who is representing who. U came in with a double nick to promote, and disappear after that. Now u again claim that u come out with this thread to find out comments on texas. All the "accusations" against me, pls point them out. From start til now, i only said its not suitable for rotary engine, which has affected 2 cars oredi, mine included. Both cars are using full synthetic. Both spark plugs showed deposits. Undeniable fact. This is more than enuf evidence after a short period of use. The point of pulling zavier in is pointless. He is using texas blended mineral oil, ask royz abt this. If u need to compare, compare apple to apple pls. In the first place, u said u r commenting ur views on the texas oil. In ur ending msg, u said u started this thread to see others' comments.... If u ever notice, i did not even post a thread similar like urs, promoting my own oil, or asking for comments. So dun have to pull monster in.
Ivan, towards your summary.
i've made myself very very clear that im not representing anyone or any place. its you guys unwilling to accept the fact. putting their decals and using their oil doesn't means im representing them. i don't get oil for free except those cheap stickers. i buy !!!
i didn't started this thread to see ppl comment. i started this thread to sell my stuffs. i typed i started THAT thread and not this thread.
yes, apple to apple. refer to the reply above on the thickness of the oil. Zavier is using 5w50 initially. pls check with him before u pass further comments k.
u based on two cars ? yours and peter ?? from what i know, u and Zavier are using the same oil at that time correct ? you are using 0w30. Peter right now is using 5w50 plus.. hello, its different.. how come nothing happen to his car then ?
as for peter, no one can be very sure to pass comments on this issue i guess.. correct ? there's alot of factors. you are not even confident and sure enough to say that texas oil can't use on rotary engines ya.. why i said this ? cause u avoid that ques asking " Are you very sure that Texas oil can't be used " who can be very sure to say this ? i believed only analysis done by professional can tell..
C'mon, let not be childish abt this. Everyone is laughing.....
hello, i merely pass my comments on my 7mths of using texas oil and you come bombing. i didn't start all these..
No it doesnt affect anyone. I juz felt that its morally wrong, in my point of view. FYI, i'm not raging, U r the one that seems like u r angry..... pls check my post to see which word of mine is condemning texas. I merely said its not suitable for rotary engine, and the oil temp dun hold out long. I did not say its not good at all. PLEASE CHECK BEFORE U COME HERE N ACCUSE. And by the way, ask royz's lawyer to quickly send me his lawyer letter to sue me. I'm in singapore, waiting.
FYI, im neither angry nor pissed in anyway. i just felt wronged of being accused in coming here to promote Texas Oil. Yes, so what if my car is full of their decals ? im not accusing you. come on.. the way u phase ur sentences makes ppl feel that texas oil is totally not suitable for rotaries engine.
okay, in my opinion..
Yes, you might be right and you might be wrong as i believed you only based on ur past experience to support your sentence. ya ? as for the actual fact ? i believed only analysis done by professional can pass a judgement on that.
As for the lawyer thingy, i've only heard of it long time ago which is like few months back against Zavier cause he flushed out Peter's oil without his knowledge. from what i know, i thought everything has been settled ??
As for ur case, i don't know whats really going on.
1) Have u been condemning it and asking ppl not to use it ?
Please see carefully, and open ur eyes big big. i did not condemn Texas in any case. I merely said its not suitable for rotary and abt the oil temp, and that is in my opinion after testing.
dude, isn't this reply abit contradicting ? as for the actual fact in condemning or not, im not that interested at all as im not into oil business. its the way u phrase ur sentences makes me felt that. thats all.
If u really wanna carry on indulging into this topic, i believed alot of ppl will come into this picture, Ms, ur staffs and dig up all the history as well so i guess its best to cast this aside.
2) what makes u so mad the moment u hear Texas Oil ?
Hello, i wasnt even the least mad. If the facts are wrong, i come in and comment, THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM. Seems like u n ur royz are even more angry, calling the whole world. Again, i hope ur lawyer letter will come soon if ur royz sees any case to sue....
Yes, this is indeed an open forum and everyone has its own freedom of speech in here. Ivan, in actual fact, this is a place full of sg rx8 owners. i believed u have ur respect in here thus u r spreading news thru ur comments indirectly to everyone ears.
likewise, you will also come here to promote Monster Garage as well. why ? cause here is the place where u can spread the news, newest mods, accessories and reviews in the fastest way. am i right ? hold on, don't get mistaken. Its perfectly fine in doing it.
Hope you know what im driving at.
Kindly take back ur words in saying " YOUR ROYZ " !!! i'm neither his subordinate nor earning a living thru him. NEITHER AM I REPRESENTING TEXAS OIL !!! get that in ur mind and change that thinking. the most u can say is im doing a free advert for him by pasting decals in my car. Anyway whats the big fuss over it ??? AIYO~~
20W50 is my error. 5W50 is not thick? Check the viscocity pls....... If u need the details, see http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
Thanks for the info and the url. pardon me for this ques as im kinda interested in it suddenly. before i ask, pls be informed that im not trying to hint, pull brands or whatsoever. okay ? i'm just curious whats the thickness for re oil ? and is it rotary fully syntectic oil ? pardon me for my ignorance. i really dunno.
Yes i do know that you did use Texas Oil in the past and it is Xavier who introduced me in the first place as well. From what i know, Xavier's plug got no problems ! Am i right ? And what makes u so sure that its the oil that damaged your spark plugs which u mentioned in ur reply to Nah.
Again, u got ur facts wrong. Zavier oil's was mineral oil, blended for him to test. Ask ur mr royz to get his facts rite first before coming in to accuse me. Mineral oil will nvr have any problems in rotary engine. Since want to reveal everything, might as well....
Firstly, Do u know that Zavier was the one who introduced Texas to me ? he's the one who tell me that its good and stuffs like that.
Secondly, Roy was the one who told me that Zavier told him he got no problems using his oil.
any mistaken abt it ?
as for the following, correct me if im wrong alright ?
Zavier was using 5w50 initially when he recommended it to me.
later on a specially blended 0w30 oil was given to u and Zavier to test. im also using it at that time after Zavier told me abt it and i approached Royz on that day saying that i wanna BUY.
So is there any problems on his spark plugs when he's using 5w50 ? i seriously wanna know as well cause i've been using it till now. From what i know, Zavier told Roy there's no problems. to be frank, i got no problems in my plugs. i still keep a few used ones at home. i can show it out to u. i changed mine every ard 2mths after i run in.
lastly can i come to a conclusion by saying that you are very sure that its texas oil that damaged your plug ?
curious..
3) why must u malign Texas Oil in its thickness in the cyber world ?
Its still a thick oil, being 5W50.
ok..
4) Are u trying to promote your RE oil thats y ur doing this ?
Hello, in this thread, i did not mention RE oil. Dun try to use this tactic against me. Since we r on the topic of texas oil, we will focus on this point. Dun have to drag other brands in.
cool. this ques was asked due to Peter being offered to Re fully synthetic oil in ur garage by saying that its special. im asking it due to curiousity. i'm willing to apologise for this ques.
Is Re oil fully synthetic rotary oil ?
One last question.
5) Are you VERY SURE that Texas Oil cannot be use in rotary engines ?
Ask Mr Royz to do some serious testing before u come to the cyberworld with this question.
i believed im the first who mentioned the word cyberworld. i take it back as i guess its not allowed in here.
So can i assumed that you are not sure at all then ? you're not sure whether can the oil be used and you're not sure whether the oil will damaged our plugs ? am i right to say this ?
i believed you will definetely say you are very sure if you are confident enough ya.
Cyberworld is a place full of strangers from different location but this is not. most of us know each other and i believed you know 95% of this community.
6) Are u representing Monster Garage in whatever u have said ?
This is an open forum. I do not represent anyone, any place. On the other hand R U REPRESENTING TEXAS??????
Im glad u said this. hmm.. you are one of the shareholders in Monster Garage right ? i believed thru ur popularity in here and the way u promote Monster Garage will kinda mislead ppl.
Oooh.. im not that rich to represent an oil company. haha..
i'll say this again.
Im not here to promote Texas Oil nor am i here to push/sell texas oil. instead im still grumbling on the price of the Atf that cost nearly a thousand bucks. anyway there's a price for everything.
Seriously i hope my engine will be down and i can claim the one million dollars manufactuer warranty.
Ivan,
why not answer my questions first and let everyone have a clear view of whats going on before u hit back with lots of replies which im sure u will. kinda sick of reading it.
If u r sick of reading, u can dun read. PERIOD. I'm sure many others are interested.
be sure and be confident before u pass comments.. (friendly advice)
Before i end this, Yes i do know who is behind the nick Kenko. the purpose of starting that thread is to see what u guys will comment on the oil. you guys will definetely drag me in if im using my nick.
So u r telling us u r doing a market survey for texas?? So who is representing now?
its not a market survey.
i just wanna know what is really happening between u ppl from Ms and Texas as all are friends in the first place but sad to see so many negative remarks. guess there's too many grudges ard here.
i don't wish to use my real nick is not because im scared, inferior or whatsoever.
why ? you can see it for urself in this thread.
who is Rav369 ??
need not avoid. ans the questions !
I will never avoid, i' m always here to answer ur queries.
thanks for that.
Look, janson. If u ever read carefully, i tink its pretty clear who is representing who. U came in with a double nick to promote, and disappear after that. Now u again claim that u come out with this thread to find out comments on texas. All the "accusations" against me, pls point them out. From start til now, i only said its not suitable for rotary engine, which has affected 2 cars oredi, mine included. Both cars are using full synthetic. Both spark plugs showed deposits. Undeniable fact. This is more than enuf evidence after a short period of use. The point of pulling zavier in is pointless. He is using texas blended mineral oil, ask royz abt this. If u need to compare, compare apple to apple pls. In the first place, u said u r commenting ur views on the texas oil. In ur ending msg, u said u started this thread to see others' comments.... If u ever notice, i did not even post a thread similar like urs, promoting my own oil, or asking for comments. So dun have to pull monster in.
Ivan, towards your summary.
i've made myself very very clear that im not representing anyone or any place. its you guys unwilling to accept the fact. putting their decals and using their oil doesn't means im representing them. i don't get oil for free except those cheap stickers. i buy !!!
i didn't started this thread to see ppl comment. i started this thread to sell my stuffs. i typed i started THAT thread and not this thread.
yes, apple to apple. refer to the reply above on the thickness of the oil. Zavier is using 5w50 initially. pls check with him before u pass further comments k.
u based on two cars ? yours and peter ?? from what i know, u and Zavier are using the same oil at that time correct ? you are using 0w30. Peter right now is using 5w50 plus.. hello, its different.. how come nothing happen to his car then ?
as for peter, no one can be very sure to pass comments on this issue i guess.. correct ? there's alot of factors. you are not even confident and sure enough to say that texas oil can't use on rotary engines ya.. why i said this ? cause u avoid that ques asking " Are you very sure that Texas oil can't be used " who can be very sure to say this ? i believed only analysis done by professional can tell..
C'mon, let not be childish abt this. Everyone is laughing.....
hello, i merely pass my comments on my 7mths of using texas oil and you come bombing. i didn't start all these..
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Originally Posted by RAV369
Oooo did someone say 'lawsuit'? Can I play too?
Please serve your papers to me anytime at:
rav4369@aol.com
5 South Bay Center
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More than happy to oblige!
Please serve your papers to me anytime at:
rav4369@aol.com
5 South Bay Center
2nd Level
San Jose, CA 95131
More than happy to oblige!
buy a bottle first..
you can send them a lawyer letter claiming that they give out false information on
nanotechnology in motor oil if you are so sure and confident in saying that Nanotechnology is not present in the motor oil.
kindly keep us informed of the outcome ya..
Seriously, i also wanna know.
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calm down..... the internet is free for us to read or ignore. I think a lot of us have exercised our free will to ignore threads we are not interested in anyway(through our volition and not via any indirect or discursive posting). Therefore caveat emptor.
Actually i think more of us are interested in en en (for now) than automotive lubricants.
Actually i think more of us are interested in en en (for now) than automotive lubricants.
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Btw, you really shouldnt make the lawyer richer (unless he's your friend and he can write these for free during lunchtime), because nothing defamatory, injurious or without basis was said.
The only people who win such things wear white short sleeved shirts, white pants, white shoes and an "Electric Company Kids Club" pin (if you are my age ..hehehehe...you may just remember The Electric Company kids show).
The only people who win such things wear white short sleeved shirts, white pants, white shoes and an "Electric Company Kids Club" pin (if you are my age ..hehehehe...you may just remember The Electric Company kids show).
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FYI, im neither angry nor pissed in anyway. i just felt wronged of being accused in coming here to promote Texas Oil. Yes, so what if my car is full of their decals ? im not accusing you. come on.. the way u phase ur sentences makes ppl feel that texas oil is totally not suitable for rotaries engine.
U r being accuse of promoting texas oil??? Am i the one accusing u? Dun confuse me with rav369. Did i accuse janson of being texas promoter??? Or u r telling me indirectly u r kenko?
okay, in my opinion..
Yes, you might be right and you might be wrong as i believed you only based on ur past experience to support your sentence. ya ? as for the actual fact ? i believed only analysis done by professional can pass a judgement on that.
As for the lawyer thingy, i've only heard of it long time ago which is like few months back against Zavier cause he flushed out Peter's oil without his knowledge. from what i know, i thought everything has been settled ??
As for ur case, i don't know whats really going on.
If u dunno wats gg on, then y put urself into this situation? Stirring ****??
dude, isn't this reply abit contradicting ? as for the actual fact in condemning or not, im not that interested at all as im not into oil business. its the way u phrase ur sentences makes me felt that. thats all.
If u really wanna carry on indulging into this topic, i believed alot of ppl will come into this picture, Ms, ur staffs and dig up all the history as well so i guess its best to cast this aside.
WHere did i contradict myself? U fail to say where i contradict, but kept saying i contradict. WHere? where? U r the one indulging this topic, my friend. U kept bugging on texas, while i oredi not pulling up the thread from kenko. Now, who is indulging into this topic?
Yes, this is indeed an open forum and everyone has its own freedom of speech in here. Ivan, in actual fact, this is a place full of sg rx8 owners. i believed u have ur respect in here thus u r spreading news thru ur comments indirectly to everyone ears.
My respect and this issue are separate. Dun lump them in. I believe pple believe in facts, not hearsay.
likewise, you will also come here to promote Monster Garage as well. why ? cause here is the place where u can spread the news, newest mods, accessories and reviews in the fastest way. am i right ? hold on, don't get mistaken. Its perfectly fine in doing it.
Hope you know what im driving at.
I have not promoted monster garage directly in any way. I oso nvr say how good, how fantastic is monster garage so far. Dun keep saying. Show me facts.
Kindly take back ur words in saying " YOUR ROYZ " !!! i'm neither his subordinate nor earning a living thru him. NEITHER AM I REPRESENTING TEXAS OIL !!! get that in ur mind and change that thinking. the most u can say is im doing a free advert for him by pasting decals in my car. Anyway whats the big fuss over it ??? AIYO~~
Hello... no need to get all worked up. i did not say u r representing texas. I'm asking u if u r representing texas, looking at the way u post. Theres no fuss, really... u wanted to kick up the big fuss.
Thanks for the info and the url. pardon me for this ques as im kinda interested in it suddenly. before i ask, pls be informed that im not trying to hint, pull brands or whatsoever. okay ? i'm just curious whats the thickness for re oil ? and is it rotary fully syntectic oil ? pardon me for my ignorance. i really dunno.
Thickness for RE oil is 0W30. Nothing to hide one. Rotary full synthetic. This one also nothing to hide.
Yes i do know that you did use Texas Oil in the past and it is Xavier who introduced me in the first place as well. From what i know, Xavier's plug got no problems ! Am i right ? And what makes u so sure that its the oil that damaged your spark plugs which u mentioned in ur reply to Nah.
Think abt the logic of spark plugs' function in the rotary engine. If i have to explain to u, its gg to be very technical.
Firstly, Do u know that Zavier was the one who introduced Texas to me ? he's the one who tell me that its good and stuffs like that.
Yup. i noe. So wat abt him now?
Secondly, Roy was the one who told me that Zavier told him he got no problems using his oil. any mistaken abt it ?
NO probs abt the later batch of 0W30 mineral oil, because it is mineral oil. I can only tell you he changed his plugs after using 5W50 texas oil. Pretty clear cut.
as for the following, correct me if im wrong alright ?
Zavier was using 5w50 initially when he recommended it to me.
later on a specially blended 0w30 oil was given to u and Zavier to test. im also using it at that time after Zavier told me abt it and i approached Royz on that day saying that i wanna BUY.
So is there any problems on his spark plugs when he's using 5w50 ? i seriously wanna know as well cause i've been using it till now. From what i know, Zavier told Roy there's no problems. to be frank, i got no problems in my plugs. i still keep a few used ones at home. i can show it out to u. i changed mine every ard 2mths after i run in.
I oredi said, the full synthetic oil given to us caused deposits in mine n peter nah's spark plugs. Zavier's changed his too, before switching to the 0W30 mineral blend. Ur plugs has no problem, seriously, good for u. plugs no problem doesnt mean the burning is complete inside ur combustion chamber.
lastly can i come to a conclusion by saying that you are very sure that its texas oil that damaged your plug?
Refer to how the spark plug works in the combustion chamber before u come out with this question....
curious..
cool. this ques was asked due to Peter being offered to Re fully synthetic oil in ur garage by saying that its special. im asking it due to curiousity. i'm willing to apologise for this ques.
Is Re oil fully synthetic rotary oil ?
YES
i believed im the first who mentioned the word cyberworld. i take it back as i guess its not allowed in here.
So can i assumed that you are not sure at all then ? you're not sure whether can the oil be used and you're not sure whether the oil will damaged our plugs ? am i right to say this ?
i believed you will definetely say you are very sure if you are confident enough ya.
Cyberworld is a place full of strangers from different location but this is not. most of us know each other and i believed you know 95% of this community.
Sure or not, let pple judge and try themselves. Putting down in black n white, later all the lawsuits nonsense will start to come. I can only say try at ur own risk. I dunno that much pple here, dun get mistaken. But even if i do, everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and views.
Im glad u said this. hmm.. you are one of the shareholders in Monster Garage right ? i believed thru ur popularity in here and the way u promote Monster Garage will kinda mislead ppl.
I have nvr deny the fact that i'm part of Monster Garage, right? How do i promote MG in here? And where did i mislead? I'm stating facts and i have the hardware to prove.
Oooh.. im not that rich to represent an oil company. haha..
i'll say this again.
Im not here to promote Texas Oil nor am i here to push/sell texas oil. instead im still grumbling on the price of the Atf that cost nearly a thousand bucks. anyway there's a price for everything.
Seriously i hope my engine will be down and i can claim the one million dollars manufactuer warranty.
Ok, u reiterate ur stand that u r not representing texas. Fair enuf. I nvr blatantly said u were anyway. I was asking u, if u look back.
be sure and be confident before u pass comments.. (friendly advice)
I'm very sure and very confident. Thank you.
Before i end this, Yes i do know who is behind the nick Kenko. the purpose of starting that thread is to see what u guys will comment on the oil. you guys will definetely drag me in if im using my nick.
Wat the difference using urself and Kenko then since both oso kena dragged in? And wat is the purpose of starting that thread and this thread now? This thread subject heading is to sell things. Then u started with ur long long post abt texas oil. We commented abt that post. Take note i said we, becos many others quoted u, but u choose to target my post only, which is fine with me. Then end up tok abt texas oil. Take note, its u who started to tok abt texas oil.
its not a market survey.
i just wanna know what is really happening between u ppl from Ms and Texas as all are friends in the first place but sad to see so many negative remarks. guess there's too many grudges ard here.
Nothing is really happening. Juz that Monster Garage has stopped selling texas oil to RX8 customers, unless customers insist on using texas and we have stock. Why we stop selling to Rx8 customers? Cut clear answers from numerous threads n posts.
i don't wish to use my real nick is not because im scared, inferior or whatsoever.
why ? you can see it for urself in this thread.
who is Rav369 ??
I cun really be bothered who is RAV369. I'm coupe07 and one nick only. I dun need a double nick to shoot anyone. Im always frank and straightforward.
Other threads that u started, no one is against u. Even in this thread, no one is against u. U ASKED ME TO ANSWER U, right? if u do remember. I'm not against u in any way. U wan me to answer, i answer.
Ivan, towards your summary.
i've made myself very very clear that im not representing anyone or any place. its you guys unwilling to accept the fact. putting their decals and using their oil doesn't means im representing them. i don't get oil for free except those cheap stickers. i buy !!!
I have nvr doubted that. I oso nvr mentioned anything against wat u (janson) have said above abt promoting texas. Take note its RAV369 who said that. Dun confuse urself with me n him.
i didn't started this thread to see ppl comment. i started this thread to sell my stuffs. i typed i started THAT thread and not this thread.
Yup since u decided to add in that post abt texas oil in ur sales thread, then u must be prepared to accept criticisms and prepared to let someone comment. U brought the thread to current's plight. Not that i went out of point myself then drift to current situation, correct or not?
yes, apple to apple. refer to the reply above on the thickness of the oil. Zavier is using 5w50 initially. pls check with him before u pass further comments k.
He changed the plugs before my eyes. Hearsay more accurate or seeing with own eyes mroe accurate?
u based on two cars ? yours and peter ?? from what i know, u and Zavier are using the same oil at that time correct ? you are using 0w30. Peter right now is using 5w50 plus.. hello, its different.. how come nothing happen to his car then ?
I said the same thing above, i will say it again here. Zavier is using 0W30 MINERAL OIL. I tried 0w30 SYNTHETIC OIL. Peter was using 5W50 SYNTHETIC OIL. mine n peter car got prob. Where is the common point between peter n my car since both our cars got prob here??? Synthetic oil right? Mineral oil confirm can use, no doubts abt that. Thats y no prob on zav's car. I dunno say how many times liao, but u fail to see my point. If again, u refer back to my postings, i said either use mineral oil, or use synthetic oil meant for rotary engines, key word being "MEANT FOR ROTARY ENGINE". Texas revolution 5W50 is neither one of them, right?
as for peter, no one can be very sure to pass comments on this issue i guess.. correct ? there's alot of factors. you are not even confident and sure enough to say that texas oil can't use on rotary engines ya.. why i said this ? cause u avoid that ques asking " Are you very sure that Texas oil can't be used " who can be very sure to say this ? i believed only analysis done by professional can tell..
There are many stories which i tink u dunno, janson. Dun be manipulated. There are not many factors to why there are unburnt deposits in ur spark plugs. In fact, simple layman tinking, you shld noe if u figure out slowly. I did not avoid ur questions at all, janson. I noe wat u r trying to ask me to say out in black n white, but c'mon, enuf have been said. U wan, u go dig out. U also say only professional can tell. Where is the professional report to say it can be used on rotary engines? Nothing right? Use mouth to say only right? Other reputed brands in the mkt, yes, tried and tested. Texas leh? U kept saying it performed miracles on ur car (u cun blame anyone from tinking u r promoting for them in any case). Maybe it really did, but it didnt for me lor. So i sway lor. Peter nah oso sway lor. Is that wat u wan to hear? Will dat make u feel better? So am i suppose to continue to sell n promote texas oil to all rx8es in monster garage? Sorry lor, we dun do things that are morally wrong juz to increase our sales.
hello, i merely pass my comments on my 7mths of using texas oil and you come bombing. i didn't start all these
Hello my friend. I did not bomb u, contrary to wat u said. U ASKED ME TO REPLY U.... I reply liao u said i bombed u...... mai accuse leh...
U r being accuse of promoting texas oil??? Am i the one accusing u? Dun confuse me with rav369. Did i accuse janson of being texas promoter??? Or u r telling me indirectly u r kenko?
okay, in my opinion..
Yes, you might be right and you might be wrong as i believed you only based on ur past experience to support your sentence. ya ? as for the actual fact ? i believed only analysis done by professional can pass a judgement on that.
As for the lawyer thingy, i've only heard of it long time ago which is like few months back against Zavier cause he flushed out Peter's oil without his knowledge. from what i know, i thought everything has been settled ??
As for ur case, i don't know whats really going on.
If u dunno wats gg on, then y put urself into this situation? Stirring ****??
dude, isn't this reply abit contradicting ? as for the actual fact in condemning or not, im not that interested at all as im not into oil business. its the way u phrase ur sentences makes me felt that. thats all.
If u really wanna carry on indulging into this topic, i believed alot of ppl will come into this picture, Ms, ur staffs and dig up all the history as well so i guess its best to cast this aside.
WHere did i contradict myself? U fail to say where i contradict, but kept saying i contradict. WHere? where? U r the one indulging this topic, my friend. U kept bugging on texas, while i oredi not pulling up the thread from kenko. Now, who is indulging into this topic?
Yes, this is indeed an open forum and everyone has its own freedom of speech in here. Ivan, in actual fact, this is a place full of sg rx8 owners. i believed u have ur respect in here thus u r spreading news thru ur comments indirectly to everyone ears.
My respect and this issue are separate. Dun lump them in. I believe pple believe in facts, not hearsay.
likewise, you will also come here to promote Monster Garage as well. why ? cause here is the place where u can spread the news, newest mods, accessories and reviews in the fastest way. am i right ? hold on, don't get mistaken. Its perfectly fine in doing it.
Hope you know what im driving at.
I have not promoted monster garage directly in any way. I oso nvr say how good, how fantastic is monster garage so far. Dun keep saying. Show me facts.
Kindly take back ur words in saying " YOUR ROYZ " !!! i'm neither his subordinate nor earning a living thru him. NEITHER AM I REPRESENTING TEXAS OIL !!! get that in ur mind and change that thinking. the most u can say is im doing a free advert for him by pasting decals in my car. Anyway whats the big fuss over it ??? AIYO~~
Hello... no need to get all worked up. i did not say u r representing texas. I'm asking u if u r representing texas, looking at the way u post. Theres no fuss, really... u wanted to kick up the big fuss.
Thanks for the info and the url. pardon me for this ques as im kinda interested in it suddenly. before i ask, pls be informed that im not trying to hint, pull brands or whatsoever. okay ? i'm just curious whats the thickness for re oil ? and is it rotary fully syntectic oil ? pardon me for my ignorance. i really dunno.
Thickness for RE oil is 0W30. Nothing to hide one. Rotary full synthetic. This one also nothing to hide.
Yes i do know that you did use Texas Oil in the past and it is Xavier who introduced me in the first place as well. From what i know, Xavier's plug got no problems ! Am i right ? And what makes u so sure that its the oil that damaged your spark plugs which u mentioned in ur reply to Nah.
Think abt the logic of spark plugs' function in the rotary engine. If i have to explain to u, its gg to be very technical.
Firstly, Do u know that Zavier was the one who introduced Texas to me ? he's the one who tell me that its good and stuffs like that.
Yup. i noe. So wat abt him now?
Secondly, Roy was the one who told me that Zavier told him he got no problems using his oil. any mistaken abt it ?
NO probs abt the later batch of 0W30 mineral oil, because it is mineral oil. I can only tell you he changed his plugs after using 5W50 texas oil. Pretty clear cut.
as for the following, correct me if im wrong alright ?
Zavier was using 5w50 initially when he recommended it to me.
later on a specially blended 0w30 oil was given to u and Zavier to test. im also using it at that time after Zavier told me abt it and i approached Royz on that day saying that i wanna BUY.
So is there any problems on his spark plugs when he's using 5w50 ? i seriously wanna know as well cause i've been using it till now. From what i know, Zavier told Roy there's no problems. to be frank, i got no problems in my plugs. i still keep a few used ones at home. i can show it out to u. i changed mine every ard 2mths after i run in.
I oredi said, the full synthetic oil given to us caused deposits in mine n peter nah's spark plugs. Zavier's changed his too, before switching to the 0W30 mineral blend. Ur plugs has no problem, seriously, good for u. plugs no problem doesnt mean the burning is complete inside ur combustion chamber.
lastly can i come to a conclusion by saying that you are very sure that its texas oil that damaged your plug?
Refer to how the spark plug works in the combustion chamber before u come out with this question....
curious..
cool. this ques was asked due to Peter being offered to Re fully synthetic oil in ur garage by saying that its special. im asking it due to curiousity. i'm willing to apologise for this ques.
Is Re oil fully synthetic rotary oil ?
YES
i believed im the first who mentioned the word cyberworld. i take it back as i guess its not allowed in here.
So can i assumed that you are not sure at all then ? you're not sure whether can the oil be used and you're not sure whether the oil will damaged our plugs ? am i right to say this ?
i believed you will definetely say you are very sure if you are confident enough ya.
Cyberworld is a place full of strangers from different location but this is not. most of us know each other and i believed you know 95% of this community.
Sure or not, let pple judge and try themselves. Putting down in black n white, later all the lawsuits nonsense will start to come. I can only say try at ur own risk. I dunno that much pple here, dun get mistaken. But even if i do, everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and views.
Im glad u said this. hmm.. you are one of the shareholders in Monster Garage right ? i believed thru ur popularity in here and the way u promote Monster Garage will kinda mislead ppl.
I have nvr deny the fact that i'm part of Monster Garage, right? How do i promote MG in here? And where did i mislead? I'm stating facts and i have the hardware to prove.
Oooh.. im not that rich to represent an oil company. haha..
i'll say this again.
Im not here to promote Texas Oil nor am i here to push/sell texas oil. instead im still grumbling on the price of the Atf that cost nearly a thousand bucks. anyway there's a price for everything.
Seriously i hope my engine will be down and i can claim the one million dollars manufactuer warranty.
Ok, u reiterate ur stand that u r not representing texas. Fair enuf. I nvr blatantly said u were anyway. I was asking u, if u look back.
be sure and be confident before u pass comments.. (friendly advice)
I'm very sure and very confident. Thank you.
Before i end this, Yes i do know who is behind the nick Kenko. the purpose of starting that thread is to see what u guys will comment on the oil. you guys will definetely drag me in if im using my nick.
Wat the difference using urself and Kenko then since both oso kena dragged in? And wat is the purpose of starting that thread and this thread now? This thread subject heading is to sell things. Then u started with ur long long post abt texas oil. We commented abt that post. Take note i said we, becos many others quoted u, but u choose to target my post only, which is fine with me. Then end up tok abt texas oil. Take note, its u who started to tok abt texas oil.
its not a market survey.
i just wanna know what is really happening between u ppl from Ms and Texas as all are friends in the first place but sad to see so many negative remarks. guess there's too many grudges ard here.
Nothing is really happening. Juz that Monster Garage has stopped selling texas oil to RX8 customers, unless customers insist on using texas and we have stock. Why we stop selling to Rx8 customers? Cut clear answers from numerous threads n posts.
i don't wish to use my real nick is not because im scared, inferior or whatsoever.
why ? you can see it for urself in this thread.
who is Rav369 ??
I cun really be bothered who is RAV369. I'm coupe07 and one nick only. I dun need a double nick to shoot anyone. Im always frank and straightforward.
Other threads that u started, no one is against u. Even in this thread, no one is against u. U ASKED ME TO ANSWER U, right? if u do remember. I'm not against u in any way. U wan me to answer, i answer.
Ivan, towards your summary.
i've made myself very very clear that im not representing anyone or any place. its you guys unwilling to accept the fact. putting their decals and using their oil doesn't means im representing them. i don't get oil for free except those cheap stickers. i buy !!!
I have nvr doubted that. I oso nvr mentioned anything against wat u (janson) have said above abt promoting texas. Take note its RAV369 who said that. Dun confuse urself with me n him.
i didn't started this thread to see ppl comment. i started this thread to sell my stuffs. i typed i started THAT thread and not this thread.
Yup since u decided to add in that post abt texas oil in ur sales thread, then u must be prepared to accept criticisms and prepared to let someone comment. U brought the thread to current's plight. Not that i went out of point myself then drift to current situation, correct or not?
yes, apple to apple. refer to the reply above on the thickness of the oil. Zavier is using 5w50 initially. pls check with him before u pass further comments k.
He changed the plugs before my eyes. Hearsay more accurate or seeing with own eyes mroe accurate?
u based on two cars ? yours and peter ?? from what i know, u and Zavier are using the same oil at that time correct ? you are using 0w30. Peter right now is using 5w50 plus.. hello, its different.. how come nothing happen to his car then ?
I said the same thing above, i will say it again here. Zavier is using 0W30 MINERAL OIL. I tried 0w30 SYNTHETIC OIL. Peter was using 5W50 SYNTHETIC OIL. mine n peter car got prob. Where is the common point between peter n my car since both our cars got prob here??? Synthetic oil right? Mineral oil confirm can use, no doubts abt that. Thats y no prob on zav's car. I dunno say how many times liao, but u fail to see my point. If again, u refer back to my postings, i said either use mineral oil, or use synthetic oil meant for rotary engines, key word being "MEANT FOR ROTARY ENGINE". Texas revolution 5W50 is neither one of them, right?
as for peter, no one can be very sure to pass comments on this issue i guess.. correct ? there's alot of factors. you are not even confident and sure enough to say that texas oil can't use on rotary engines ya.. why i said this ? cause u avoid that ques asking " Are you very sure that Texas oil can't be used " who can be very sure to say this ? i believed only analysis done by professional can tell..
There are many stories which i tink u dunno, janson. Dun be manipulated. There are not many factors to why there are unburnt deposits in ur spark plugs. In fact, simple layman tinking, you shld noe if u figure out slowly. I did not avoid ur questions at all, janson. I noe wat u r trying to ask me to say out in black n white, but c'mon, enuf have been said. U wan, u go dig out. U also say only professional can tell. Where is the professional report to say it can be used on rotary engines? Nothing right? Use mouth to say only right? Other reputed brands in the mkt, yes, tried and tested. Texas leh? U kept saying it performed miracles on ur car (u cun blame anyone from tinking u r promoting for them in any case). Maybe it really did, but it didnt for me lor. So i sway lor. Peter nah oso sway lor. Is that wat u wan to hear? Will dat make u feel better? So am i suppose to continue to sell n promote texas oil to all rx8es in monster garage? Sorry lor, we dun do things that are morally wrong juz to increase our sales.
hello, i merely pass my comments on my 7mths of using texas oil and you come bombing. i didn't start all these
Hello my friend. I did not bomb u, contrary to wat u said. U ASKED ME TO REPLY U.... I reply liao u said i bombed u...... mai accuse leh...
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08-23-2006, 01:08 AM
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Wow, this is getting pretty exciting, all these over Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil (i'm spelling this out to get better google ratings, just in case anyone googles the oil for review.
I think i've said enough about the hearsay around Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil - that it doesn't work for rotaries, it fouls spark plugs, there's no such thing as nanotech, and now that you've confirmed it - it's way overpriced. So this point is moot - Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil AIN'T PROVEN, and it ain't for rotaries (and maybe even piston engines)
So you say you don't work/represent Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil, nor get anything from them? hey waitabit - didn't you get 5L of Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil free of charge and that's like worth $300? And if you are really impartial, why are you defending Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil so much?
So really, however excitingly long your reply on Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil has been, you haven't really given anything concrete really.
In any case, with all these posts and such, you've really escalated this Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil issue - just this post alone will reach 1000 views by end of today, and the previous kenko post no doubt has exceeded 1000 views. and hopefully, with all this namedropping of Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil, google picks this up too.
Good luck, and good night
I think i've said enough about the hearsay around Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil - that it doesn't work for rotaries, it fouls spark plugs, there's no such thing as nanotech, and now that you've confirmed it - it's way overpriced. So this point is moot - Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil AIN'T PROVEN, and it ain't for rotaries (and maybe even piston engines)
So you say you don't work/represent Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil, nor get anything from them? hey waitabit - didn't you get 5L of Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil free of charge and that's like worth $300? And if you are really impartial, why are you defending Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil so much?
So really, however excitingly long your reply on Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil has been, you haven't really given anything concrete really.
In any case, with all these posts and such, you've really escalated this Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil issue - just this post alone will reach 1000 views by end of today, and the previous kenko post no doubt has exceeded 1000 views. and hopefully, with all this namedropping of Texas Revolution Titanium motor oil, google picks this up too.
Good luck, and good night
08-23-2006, 01:16 AM
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seems like our search engine also can be used liao for this purpose.. period.
Just a joke : perhaps can discuss what kind of cooking oil also... haha
Just a joke : perhaps can discuss what kind of cooking oil also... haha
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08-23-2006, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by King105
Try Palm Oil for cooking oil.
Caveat - I have vested interested in Oil Palm Plantation. Relax..
King105
Caveat - I have vested interested in Oil Palm Plantation.
Relax..King105
but i stick to the good old knife brand.... dao biao you
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Originally Posted by tan280
for me I choose olive, canola and sunbeam oil.. at least it does help digestion and no deposits after that... haha
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hahaha, i read this thread until mouth open big big cannot close. I dunno anything at all about oils, very damn ignorant. All i do is send to my technician and say "OI AH HUAT! bang wo service, zai wo hui sien ok?" thats all.
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Tan: i think shell station got sell durex lube, but viscosity quite high - feels like 0w90. May want to mix golden circle corn oil to make it 0w30
simply8 u dun start hor, this tread already hiong enough liao. Talkingcock good, even little lee praise in ndp rally. Sekali pple start fighting cham liao. Already got wrx vs rx8 langah in jurong hoh liao
simply8 u dun start hor, this tread already hiong enough liao. Talkingcock good, even little lee praise in ndp rally. Sekali pple start fighting cham liao. Already got wrx vs rx8 langah in jurong hoh liao
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Since my name appeared so many times, I tink I should clear some issues. B4 i do, let me 1st set the record tat I m not here to denounce any oil nor promote any !
I 1st got 2 knoe abt Texas when I was introduced by somebody to Texas rep, Was offered to try the oil at no charges and off course the million warranty stands too. No harm trying and I did. Was impressed coz temp did go dwn. Oil also burn away like mineral, but residue did appear in one of my plugs though not as serious as another.
So I shared with fellow 8 owners abt the oil and even arrnge for Texas rep to meet up with some, went 2 see their demo and so on.
Not long after, one 8 owner had problem wif his spark plugs, n I was also concern coz the plugs dun look good as I saw it personally, so I spoke to Texas rep over the issue and was not comfortable thus requesting tat I want out. Then came the Mineral base Texas given to me for another trial. During which wanted to knw wat happen to the plugs, but rep agreed to hav it lab tested however to date it did not materialize.
While usin the mineral oil, no issue arise from my plugs, but many knew tat I was usin Texas, oni ting is they duno its mineral base.
At present my plugs has been changed and I m usin another oil period.
I could oni say tat I was disappointed over some issue which I tink all 8 owners need to know.
Write ups are meant to convince so until you hv personally experience it than it counts.
F1 spends millions juz to gain 10-20 hp every race, so tink abt it, can oil make such a difference.
I rest my case. And pls leave me out of this oil thingy coz I hav already regretted to step in since the beginning.
I 1st got 2 knoe abt Texas when I was introduced by somebody to Texas rep, Was offered to try the oil at no charges and off course the million warranty stands too. No harm trying and I did. Was impressed coz temp did go dwn. Oil also burn away like mineral, but residue did appear in one of my plugs though not as serious as another.
So I shared with fellow 8 owners abt the oil and even arrnge for Texas rep to meet up with some, went 2 see their demo and so on.
Not long after, one 8 owner had problem wif his spark plugs, n I was also concern coz the plugs dun look good as I saw it personally, so I spoke to Texas rep over the issue and was not comfortable thus requesting tat I want out. Then came the Mineral base Texas given to me for another trial. During which wanted to knw wat happen to the plugs, but rep agreed to hav it lab tested however to date it did not materialize.
While usin the mineral oil, no issue arise from my plugs, but many knew tat I was usin Texas, oni ting is they duno its mineral base.
At present my plugs has been changed and I m usin another oil period.
I could oni say tat I was disappointed over some issue which I tink all 8 owners need to know.
Write ups are meant to convince so until you hv personally experience it than it counts.
F1 spends millions juz to gain 10-20 hp every race, so tink abt it, can oil make such a difference.
I rest my case. And pls leave me out of this oil thingy coz I hav already regretted to step in since the beginning.
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Originally Posted by gfoo
Tan: i think shell station got sell durex lube, but viscosity quite high - feels like 0w90. May want to mix golden circle corn oil to make it 0w30
simply8 u dun start hor, this tread already hiong enough liao. Talkingcock good, even little lee praise in ndp rally. Sekali pple start fighting cham liao. Already got wrx vs rx8 langah in jurong hoh liao
simply8 u dun start hor, this tread already hiong enough liao. Talkingcock good, even little lee praise in ndp rally. Sekali pple start fighting cham liao. Already got wrx vs rx8 langah in jurong hoh liao
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Wow lau Aaaaaaa…………. only sick for two days n never read so many things happen. Coupe07 pls let me say sorry 1st,I really dunno by asking u this plug matter will cos so much problem,I should have keep my mouth shut.But also pls, have to be fair to me,cos before I bring this question to u,I have already told Texas rep about my problem and he has confirm tat it has nothing to do with his oil,n the problem Texas rep told me is due to my ECU re-map or tune of my car which confirm by Texas rep,cos he claim and told me he when to ask a workshop which claim tat they known very well about the engine on our RX 8. K lets me start wat is this all about,I will do my best to make it as simple as possible.I started using Texas engine oil after my car has run in at 2k/km+.Yes the oil very promising everything heat cut down,power when up etc…. Yes everything good should say very good.K from 2k/km+ to 9k/km+,when to MG to fix body kit, I ask them(MG) Mech to check on my 8 plug,problem saw it with my our eye on the plug very not nice,sorry I dunno how to say,cos I known nuts about car engine, only known how to drive and enjoy.k I feedback to Texas rep about this to see is it because of the engine oil which I use tat is not rite, confirm back NO ( pls take note my car is stock hor nothing been done yet) nvm lor…. Just change my plug will do lor…….. Now from 9k/km+ to 17k/km, I use the engine oil with “Normal” and “ Plus” now here come and to me is a very big problem,my car the feel is like dancing, wait oil come wait no oil come and behind the car wife and myself can hear shooting sound, I think is call miss fire.So this time i when to a independent workshop which known nothing about RX 8 I believed, the workshop only do servicing is call “shell Pro” from shell station. Told the mechanic my problem,drove my car when back and he just say change engine oil,filter and plug just do a service will do and all the problem will be solve..So I feedback to Texas rep on the matter, and I ask him this,can it be the oil and this time he told me is because of my re-mapping of ECU or tune ***PLS SEE AS ABOVE***.So that is why this time I when down with my plug to your workshop (MG) and your reply which u give me become such a big issue,until wat sue here and sue there, Please lor the person who say sue this words pls la…. Let me say lets not sue here sue there and all will go no where, whether can or not,who rite who wrong ,who talk big who talk small…. Etc… everything just say only all can say wat they like or talk or post wat each of oneself like but end of the day is for ppl to see and exchange view lor, why must it become like this.And please lor you known who you are “STOP DROPPING DUNG HERE” 
Peter Nah
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