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Old 02-20-2008, 03:05 AM
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Power steering failure!!!!

Hi All,

I'm experiencing the dreaded power steering failure in the morning (2006 4AT, 50,000 Km mileage) when i start the car. I have done a search in the forum and the only solution is to replace the whole steering rack but then, its not a permanent solution as the problem might come back again.

Anyone has any luck recitifying this problem? Thanks for your help.

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Old 02-20-2008, 03:25 AM
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yes

search some more and you will find the problem lies in the loom and connectors not the rack
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:42 AM
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search some more and you will find the problem lies in the loom and connectors not the rack
its 100% the rack for those in Singapore. i soldered the connector and it still happens.
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its 100% the rack for those in Singapore. i soldered the connector and it still happens.
Why only SG? is it becos of the hot climate?
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Originally Posted by loone_sg View Post
Hi All,

I'm experiencing the dreaded power steering failure in the morning (2006 4AT, 50,000 Km mileage) when i start the car. I have done a search in the forum and the only solution is to replace the whole steering rack but then, its not a permanent solution as the problem might come back again.

Anyone has any luck recitifying this problem? Thanks for your help.

regards,
Loone
It's not? I have this problem as well, and was told that it is steering rack issue. Haven't heard of it occurring again to those that replaced them with a new one.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:01 PM
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Why only SG? is it becos of the hot climate?
because only changing the rack solves the problem. and it happens here the most. at least documented here. also it seems to occur around 40k to 50k kms
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:15 PM
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I have friends driving the same car and they have since changed their steering rack twice. I think coupe07 is onto his 2nd rack also. Damn!!!
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Group Buy opportunity? Steering Rack Futures Board potential? ;-)
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:54 AM
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because only changing the rack solves the problem. and it happens here the most. at least documented here. also it seems to occur around 40k to 50k kms
back to the same old arguement. US guys will says its the connectors problem, which doesnt work here at all, no matter how precise u solder... then will start saying we did not search the forum and dunno wat we r doing...

mlk22 has tried everything... in the end, changing the whole rack is the solution.

We have tried everything too.. solder play with connector, heat wrap, warm up, way before anyone has... Y? becos i'm on my second steering rack and the problem is back... i noe best the problem more than anyone else becos i'm approaching to change to my 3rd steering rack.
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can PM me who much it cost ?

need to start saving for it as i'm 1/2 way mark to it
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wow.. 3 racks in 3 years is quite bad. whats your mileage now?
roughly how long did each rack last?

wonder why we get it worse on the RHD cars... maybe its closer to the exhaust manifold? since the LHD cars steering rack torque sensor is on the other side.

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Old 02-21-2008, 07:15 AM
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Not that i know of. Just change mine last week at MM.
our power steering is not of those normal type, am i correcT?
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:24 AM
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its electric, not normal in the sense that its not hydraulic. but then many many makers are using electric now. its made by showa which builds many steering racks. maybe we should send a complaint letter to CEO of showa.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:49 PM
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Guys, when you say the problem comes back even after replacing with a new steering rack, is it the same problem? As in it shudders only at cold engine start right? Does it occur when you are driving or...?
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:56 PM
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crap...... just when i succesfully and conveniently blocked out & forgot this potential and imminent problem, i'm reminded about it again......... Hmmmm......... Better start saving up for a new rack....... odds are in favour of it failing..........
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I dont mind changing the steering rack if its a permanent solution but it will come back every 30K, 40K or 50K...then its really pointless. Moreover..its not cheap. Sigh!!! Any other optional solution in sight?
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:20 AM
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As in it shudders only at cold engine start right? Does it occur when you are driving or...?
Yes, but it will progressively get worse until eventually it will even shudder during driving.
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by loone_sg View Post
Any other optional solution in sight?
Don't drive? But seriously, IMHO, I think the steering rack failure seems to be heat related. Try to install more cooling mods and hope it helps. It may not solve the problem permanantly, but delaying the failure is also good.
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Yes, but it will progressively get worse until eventually it will even shudder during driving.
Yikes. Thanks for the heads up. I always thought it was only during cold start.
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anyone else besides coupe07 on the way to a 3rd rack?
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Originally Posted by mkl22 View Post
its 100% the rack for those in Singapore. i soldered the connector and it still happens.
strange that it does not seem to be a problem with JDM or Aussie cars - same rack ...........

someone once warned me about buying a car imported from singapore - something to do with the extreme heat frying up the wireing

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wah raoz eh..... ok, i haven't posted anything for ages but since i kana this as well so was searching for an answer and found this thread. seeing coupe07 change 3 times and still got problem, my question is if i spend a bomb on the rack and still got prob how har? sianz..... more and more probs popping up nowadays. sigh...
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Sigh!!!

I was looking for some cheaper n permanent solutions but no luck so far..... Seems like changing the whole rack is the only solution.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:07 AM
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wah raoz eh..... ok, i haven't posted anything for ages but since i kana this as well so was searching for an answer and found this thread. seeing coupe07 change 3 times and still got problem, my question is if i spend a bomb on the rack and still got prob how har? sianz..... more and more probs popping up nowadays. sigh...
LTNS, anyway, Coupe07 hasn't changed 3 racks coz that would mean he is on his 4th steering rack. To answer your question, it's not a matter of IF.. it's only a matter of WHEN. So enjoy driving your 8 while you can
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err....wot is LTNS?

anyway, yeah, looks like no choice. oh, and here's a HI to gfoo who i bum into while zaino-ing my car today.
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