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Old 10-02-2005, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Genesis
I changed out the front brake pads and dropped in a set of Endless Sports-S type pads. They're not necessarily racing pads, but do handle higher temps than the stocks and will recover faster if you're at the track. The best part of these pads is that they're ceramic. With no steel materials, dust is definitely minimal compared to the stock steel pads. Performance wise, the front brakes do feel a bit more responsive, but not significantly so....now is the time to add the autoexe mastervac
did i hear the AUTOEXE mastervac?????????

bro, the undercarriage brace is waiting for u!!!
Old 10-02-2005, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Freestyle
The thing is... the front wheels get dirty very quickly (just 30 mins ride after I cleaned the rims) but the rear wheels are ok. Seems a bit strange cuz the RX-8 is RWD, so I'd think the rear wheel brakes should work harder than the front. Is this normal?
Just to add to what coupe said, the front brakes are more important and have to work harder than the rear brakes regardless of whether it is FWD, RWD or AWD. This because when you brake, the weight of the car shifts forward and thus there is more traction on your front tires and consequently more braking force can be applied without your front tires losing grip. That's not to say the rear brakes are not important or don't do any work, but the front definitely does more work. That's why our front brake rotors are bigger and also why your front wheels are dirtier than your rear wheels from all the brake dust. It's perfectly normal.
Old 10-03-2005, 12:10 PM
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Exclamation

This is what I experience on my Sepang Track day.
The instructor that drove and demo what the Rx8 can do in a bend and can overtake an Evo and Sti during a bend. 120-130 around a quite sharp bend (where I can only do it in 80-90 km/h)
Just after 2-3 laps I can smell some thing is burning. only when I alight the car , I can see the Rear Brake smoking.

The rear brake is so hot that even the red paint on the Rear Caliper also starts to bubble.

So in conclusion. I believe that the rear brakes is equally as important compare to the front one.[/QUOTE]


Can I ask you which bend you are referring to? I mean the bend your instructor managed to overtake the Evo and Sti? Judging at that speed it should be bend 5 dry run.

Brake smoking after 2-3 laps? Hmm..... there is a cheaper way to prevent this from happening again. After a few laps .... just about when you suspect it gets too hot .. you can always run the car at a slow speed for 1 or 2 laps so that your brake can be cooled considerably as air pass thru it before going back to the pit. Or alternatively you can use your gear together with your brake to stop your car to the right speed before turning in to the bend and let your front tyres to provide the resistance there after rather then just jamming on to the brake on a straight line and let the brake to do all the works. One way to do this is thru heel and toe . Thru this way I dun think you can eva smoke your brake again .... the most you will do to your brake is to have some brake fade....
Old 10-05-2005, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by morganoh
Before my trip to Sepang . alot of people told me that the front brakes are more important and some of them had their Front brakes pads change to a higher quality and more expensive ones and some also change to a 4-6 port brake caliper.
Leaving their Rear Stocks.

This is what I experience on my Sepang Track day.
The instructor that drove and demo what the Rx8 can do in a bend and can overtake an Evo and Sti during a bend. 120-130 around a quite sharp bend (where I can only do it in 80-90 km/h)
Just after 2-3 laps I can smell some thing is burning. only when I alight the car , I can see the Rear Brake smoking.

The rear brake is so hot that even the red paint on the Rear Caliper also starts to bubble.

So in conclusion. I believe that the rear brakes is equally as important compare to the front one.






Can I ask you which bend you are referring to? I mean the bend your instructor managed to overtake the Evo and Sti? Judging at that speed it should be bend 5 dry run.

Brake smoking after 2-3 laps? Hmm..... there is a cheaper way to prevent this from happening again. After a few laps .... just about when you suspect it gets too hot .. you can always run the car at a slow speed for 1 or 2 laps so that your brake can be cooled considerably as air pass thru it before going back to the pit. Or alternatively you can use your gear together with your brake to stop your car to the right speed before turning in to the bend and let your front tyres to provide the resistance there after rather then just jamming on to the brake on a straight line and let the brake to do all the works. One way to do this is thru heel and toe . Thru this way I dun think you can eva smoke your brake again .... the most you will do to your brake is to have some brake fade....
Old 10-06-2005, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CURRENT9
Can I ask you which bend you are referring to? I mean the bend your instructor managed to overtake the Evo and Sti? Judging at that speed it should be bend 5 dry run.

Brake smoking after 2-3 laps? Hmm..... there is a cheaper way to prevent this from happening again. After a few laps .... just about when you suspect it gets too hot .. you can always run the car at a slow speed for 1 or 2 laps so that your brake can be cooled considerably as air pass thru it before going back to the pit. Or alternatively you can use your gear together with your brake to stop your car to the right speed before turning in to the bend and let your front tyres to provide the resistance there after rather then just jamming on to the brake on a straight line and let the brake to do all the works. One way to do this is thru heel and toe . Thru this way I dun think you can eva smoke your brake again .... the most you will do to your brake is to have some brake fade....

Thats my 1st trip to sepang, I do not know the bend no. if I have a track map now I would be able to count and tell u which bend, sorry ...

Just check my brake pad is ok, I believe that its the paint the I had spray on the caliper that is creating all the smokes. cos I found out that the paint on the caliper is now very rough and can see bubbles (due to the high temp)

What does it mean by "brake fade"?
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Originally Posted by morganoh
What does it mean by "brake fade"?
Hi Morgan....usually refers to the situation when during frequent hard braking (like at track) the pads heat up beyond spec and become less effective (lose friction to rotors)....slotted or cross-drilled rotors help with cooling, but usually one just has to ease off the brakes for a bit to let 'em cool. The other reason for fade could be when the brake fluid gets so hot it boils near the calipers and turns to gas...brakes will feel really spongy and less effective.
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Originally Posted by coupe07
did i hear the AUTOEXE mastervac?????????

bro, the undercarriage brace is waiting for u!!!
Hi bro....when is Bernard back? Also, yes you heard autoexe mastervac....on your next order can??
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Originally Posted by Genesis
Hi bro....when is Bernard back? Also, yes you heard autoexe mastervac....on your next order can??
bro, bernard is long back oredi!!! however the hoist now is being utilised for a badly damaged car....... to put on the brace, u require the hoist... the accident car shld be down pretty soon... let me check n get back to u
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Originally Posted by coupe07
bro, bernard is long back oredi!!! however the hoist now is being utilised for a badly damaged car....... to put on the brace, u require the hoist... the accident car shld be down pretty soon... let me check n get back to u
Ok, thx coupe
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