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Old 04-15-2010, 10:43 PM
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Rx8 drift car

so i don't post in here that often. I kinda do more looking around than posting. Anyways, I have been drifting for a few years w/ an S13. That broke while i was out at asb (all star bash) in Cali. So I sold it and here I am w/ an RX8. I have been just stocking up on parts all winter, and finally we put it all on (well most of it)

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Greddy turbo kit
Cobb Accessport (tuning for 300whp)
Exedy hyper single clutch
Carbonetic 2-way carbon diff
Advan T6's 18x9 +12 (direzza star specs - 225/40), 18x10 +20 (maxxis z1 drifts - 235/40)
Vertex Lang aero w/ canards
Origin GT wing
Stance GR+ coilovers
megan rear links
supernow inner tie rods
supernow rear toe arms


We have not got the aero back from paint yet, but we got everything else done. Turbo kit worked out pretty well in the end. The only good picture to post is this one........!

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I'll post more pics up when I get the aero on. hope u enjoy for now.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:51 PM
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Im sorry man but that wing is absolutely 100% fail...

That is biggest wing I have ever seen...

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apparently I forgot drift cars have huge wings, I dont understand why though, I guess its not having a rear bumper that makes your wing look so big. No my style but I suppose if it has function then why not... I just was always under the impression you had to be going fast in order for the wing to provide sufficient downforce, which is the point of this spoiler no? but considering your never going to be going 100mph drifting I dont understand the need for a wing. If anyone knows something I dont then by all means jump in here and explain...

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Old 04-15-2010, 10:52 PM
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good stuff . You will probably want to upgrade that greddy turbo pretty quick . I imagine you want good top end power for drifting ?
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:04 AM
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This thread should get good. I've been following the build on ziptied.com

NEED MOAR PICS
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I like it, I agree with the first reply saying that the wing is butt ****** ugly but it does serve a purpose in your case so u cnt be flamed for it lol.

But why are you runnin boost? Its drifting, u dnt need that much power and top end speed... these cars already put down around 190hp to the wheels. Do u really need a turbo too?

NA is much better for drifting u should know this already
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I like it, I agree with the first reply saying that the wing is butt ****** ugly but it does serve a purpose in your case so u cnt be flamed for it lol.

But why are you runnin boost? Its drifting, u dnt need that much power and top end speed... these cars already put down around 190hp to the wheels. Do u really need a turbo too?

NA is much better for drifting u should know this already

drifting an NA rx8 seems like a challenge due to the zero torque you have. theres no low end power at all.
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Old 04-16-2010, 07:23 AM
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A properly designed rear wing winds up tightening the car up by giving additional downforce to the rear end and thus some more traction. With an NA Rx8 that attempts to drift, this is a not needed as you already have too low of power to mess around with settings in order to get it to drift.

You see them all the time in drift competitions because most of those cars put out quite enough power to drift alone. Adding the rear wing just adds another element of tuning in handling when sideways between oversteering too much or too little.

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Old 04-16-2010, 11:50 AM
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Directed Towards HomicidalApple:

This has to be the dumbest comment I've ever seen. Look at most Formula Drift Cars. They are either supercharged, have a turbo setup, or have a big v8 in them.

The RX8 makes dick for torque. The more power and torque you can get, the easier it is to slide the car around.
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Originally Posted by Fate710 View Post
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This has to be the dumbest comment I've ever seen. Look at most Formula Drift Cars. They are either supercharged, have a turbo setup, or have a big v8 in them.

The RX8 makes dick for torque. The more power and torque you can get, the easier it is to slide the car around.
u dont have to be a dick like that either

yes most or all fd cars r running some sort of FI

but you can still drift a rx-8 without turbo [its just a lot harder]
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:32 PM
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AZR: Your car looks sick as ****, cant wait for some good pics.

So many idiots in this thread.
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AZR: Your car looks sick as ****, cant wait for some good pics.

So many idiots in this thread.
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Lol it's easy to drift the 8 just keep the rpm's up. It is easier with a FI setup.

That wing is big tho... Not to bash but I thought about getting a big wing but not that big. Just for looks tho.
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Bnr or mazdamaniac upgrade quuick!! More powah!!! And email me detailed info and install pics... I can get you featured on the drifting.com website, [email protected]
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Originally Posted by AZR View Post
parts:
Greddy turbo kit
Cobb Accessport (tuning for 300whp)
IF you make 300 with the greddy turbo as supplied, your begging for trouble pushing it that far

and i would think it prudent to ditch the greddy turbo regardless since i imagine you'll be spending a lot of time modulating throttle in upper rpms and under load? the greddy snail can be pretty peaky in those conditions with that much flow, and wont hold that kind of boost anyway

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give the guy a chance lets see what he's got before we speculate too much here...
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hahahahahahahaha so many hilarious comments!!!!!

" Not my style but I suppose if it has function then why not... I just was always under the impression you had to be going fast in order for the wing to provide sufficient downforce, which is the point of this spoiler no? but considering your never going to be going 100mph drifting I dont understand the need for a wing."


but the best comment........
"A properly designed rear wing winds up tightening the car up by giving additional downforce to the rear end and thus some more traction. With an NA Rx8 that attempts to drift, this is a not needed as you already have too low of power to mess around with settings in order to get it to drift.

You see them all the time in drift competitions because most of those cars put out quite enough power to drift alone. Adding the rear wing just adds another element of tuning in handling when sideways between oversteering too much or too little."


You guys cant be serious?..... IT'S DRIFTING!!?! You think anyone cares about "downforce" from a giant CF WING? come on everybody. Gave me some nice laughs though when people were talkin about the technicalities of a wing and drifting mechanics.


Anyways, thanks for everybody else that likes where its headed. Its been a long process of just waiting around over the winter. I have been having some issues getting a hold of jeff (mazdamaniac) for a tune for the cobb. First drift event is mid-may and I haven't even gotten my initial "base" map from him to send him data logs back for. The way things are going I wouldn't have a decent tune till like end of June!

Jeff if you read this please get back to me for an update on my tune....it would be much appreciated.
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good luck man post some videos I am pretty interested to see how it all works out.
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Also more power= more smoke!!!! :D
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I have been having some issues getting a hold of jeff (mazdamaniac) for a tune for the cobb. First drift event is mid-may and I haven't even gotten my initial "base" map from him to send him data logs back for. The way things are going I wouldn't have a decent tune till like end of June!

Jeff if you read this please get back to me for an update on my tune....it would be much appreciated.
Make sure you follow his instructions and keep on his *** or you will find this takes an age .

There are a few weak areas on the greddy kit you should be made aware of like :
*you need a restrictor in your oil line to turbo if you want it to last more than a couple of events.
*The couplers don't last
*You should fit a modified AEM intake and ditch the Greddy one - it's crap
*the turbo itself is undersized for what you want to do - but can easily be upgraded.

If you didn't know all this already you should probably do some reading around here - lots of good info on how to make the greddy kit perform really well.
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There are a few weak areas on the greddy kit you should be made aware of like :
*you need a restrictor in your oil line to turbo if you want it to last more than a couple of events.
*The couplers don't last
*You should fit a modified AEM intake and ditch the Greddy one - it's crap
*the turbo itself is undersized for what you want to do - but can easily be upgraded.

If you didn't know all this already you should probably do some reading around here - lots of good info on how to make the greddy kit perform really well.[/quote]


Thanks for the suggestions. I am going to have to disagree with you though on a few things.

A.) I got the RE-medy oil restrictor to boost oil pressure a tad (did not use the extra washers)
B.) I agree with you, im replacing the couplers
C.) greddy intake is fine.....don't be ridiculous
D.) turbo is fine for what I'm looking for, which is a relatively reliable renesis. Which is why I bought all sorts of supporting mods to keep this thing cool (oil and water) and not boost too much.

Thanks for everybody's input though. I should have the body all put together sometime this week and will post pics.
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A.) I got the RE-medy oil restrictor to boost oil pressure a tad (did not use the extra washers)
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That's good but you need to restrict the flow of oil to the turbo or you will blow the oil seals real quick.


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C.) greddy intake is fine.....don't be ridiculous
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well it is fine in that it filters the air and is not a restriction to flow .
AEM is far superior because it gets air from outside the engine bay + it works better with the cobb AP.

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D.) turbo is fine for what I'm looking for, which is a relatively reliable renesis. Which is why I bought all sorts of supporting mods to keep this thing cool (oil and water) and not boost too much.
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ok - but expect 260ish whp (reliable) not 300 .
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C.) greddy intake is fine.....don't be ridiculous
D.) turbo is fine for what I'm looking for, which is a relatively reliable renesis. Which is why I bought all sorts of supporting mods to keep this thing cool (oil and water) and not boost too much.

Thanks for everybody's input though.
he's not being ridiculous. you get a better MAF tube setup, and you get the filter out of the hot *** engine bay. using the supplied greddy turbo with your intentions is not only contradictory to relibilty(regardless of upporting mods), it also is not going to perfom well in the manner you're wanting to use it
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You guys cant be serious?..... IT'S DRIFTING!!?! You think anyone cares about "downforce" from a giant CF WING? come on everybody. Gave me some nice laughs though when people were talkin about the technicalities of a wing and drifting mechanics.
I'm going to be nice. Never reply thinking someone doesn't know their **** unless proven otherwise. I come from an extensive racing background on dirt where we are going sideways all the time using wings up to 25 sq ft in size. It's called sprint car racing. Being interested in fluid dynamics since my racing days and engineering background I've experimented and designed wings for my own use messing with the setups and even the smallest wing when placed on a car makes an effect regardless of high speed.

If you think they don't care about their wing when it influences their handling as they go sideways you're wrong. And if you just placed it on there because everyone else in the big leagues did it you're a prime example of monkey see, monkey do and just made your self look retarded, good job. Set your car up to handle well where it won't spin out with that park bench on your trunk, then take it off with the same setting. You'll be surprised.

Next time adjust your attitude, it might fare better in your social dynamics with other people instead of sounding like a wanna-be know it all mocking people who know quite a bit more about how things work than you do.

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hahaha gotta love this forum
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sorry ... space shuttles, birds, and biplanes have wings ... RX8s ... not so much ... unless your talking +500 whp then I see a need ... I'm just confused really ...

great build ... cant wait to see a vid
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