Footman

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Simplytire in North York... great service, great work done. On time....
Got my Michelin PSS from them and a caliper repaint done $70. GReat deal.

Sato Tatsuya

Anyone know where I can get my hands on some good deals for Yokohama Advan AD08 or AD08R? I have looked into TireRack already, but wanted to ask fellow forum members if they have noticed any deals that I did not find?

tonik

Call Tires23 in Mississauga...

stinksause

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I got cheapa$$ all seasons from discounttiredirect and they came out to like 80 a tire shipped! Pretty happy so far (couple k miles since)

Sato Tatsuya

Thanks guys, for pointing to the right direction on tires. TireRack still seems to offer the cheapest rate on the Advan AD08Rs.

I would also like to get some feedback on those tires, if anyone have used them before? I am reading that they do not work well below 20C. That can pose a problem, because snow tires won't work very well above 7C. Even considering the weather these days - they are roughly at around 15C, which means if I am to even think about getting these tires, it should only be used probably the end of May onwards? That does not seem to be very practical...

Anyways, any feedback will be helpful! Thanks guys!

P.S. Has any of you guys have P245/40R18 installed on their car (on stock rims), and find it grippier than OEM tire size?

2hit6

Talk to Mohammed at Alpha Motorsport

Alpha Motorsports

Advan AD08Rs was $1400 (when I got quoted in early March)

I was so close to picking these up...I even put a order for them, but I got a deal on the bridgestone re-11a. The only way to know if it suites your driving style is to try them. Anything in that same category is better than stock. But like all tires in that category, they were not meant for single digit weather conditions.

The general rule of thumb is that the wider you go, the grippier it is. BUT as the same time, it takes more energy to spin the tires which translate to you going a bit slow. Its just physics. I'm no expert...but the guys that track all their lives will tell you that it all comes do to what you're looking to do. There are many different ways to get your car to grip more than just tires.

Sato Tatsuya

Thank you for the referral! I have emailed Mohammed. Will keep you guys posted on what he has to say about the tire

I was originally planning on finding an aggressive summer tire where I can switch to after taking off my winter tires. However, if it is true that the AD08Rs are not good below 20C then I might have to look for another tire. This leaves me with no tire to use between 10-20C temperate range...if you know what I mean? I do not want to use my winter tires in the 10-20C range. I am reading that the compound on the AD08R is stiffer than other summer tires, so it will slip easier even in at 15C.

I have also been wondering about the choice of rims. Instead of using 25mm spacers, why not just get wider rims that can support also wider tires that will give a flush-look while providing a superior level of performance?

sjd

Where did you read that the AD08R's aren't good under 20C?

Any Extreme Performance (AD08R, Rivals, RS-3, R1R, RE11A, Z2) summer tire's performance suffers as temperatures drop but Tire Rack lists the following about the matter in regards to the AD08R.

"Like the motorsports tires this Extreme Performance Summer street tire has evolved from, the ADVAN Neova AD08 R radial's construction and compounds have been tuned to maximize the tire's traction and performance within a specific range of ambient temperatures. Therefore, unlike less highly-tuned tires, Yokohama's care instructions specify that due to its compound characteristics, ADVAN Neova AD08 R tires must be serviced, stored and driven at temperatures above -10 degrees Celsius (14 degrees Fahrenheit) to maintain its performance and avoid tire damage."

They say something about not storing or driving the tires I listed above in any freezing or near freezing temps in all of their tire write ups.

I just picked up a set of AD08R's but don't have them on the car yet. I just run my stock wheels and RE050's until it warms up a bit.

I had AD08's 2 years ago and Rivals last year and drove both when it was around 8-10 degrees (mornings on the way to the track in May) and had no issues.

Sato Tatsuya

Thanks, sjd, for your thorough explanation! I first read about that at another forum where other drivers had used them before. It was a ln Australian forum, so maybe that is the case? In any case, thank you for explaining that to me, and it is reassuring (and makes much more sense) that the tires can run well even in low 10C's.

How was driving on the AD08 two years ago? Is it the best street summer tires you have driven, or were the Rivals better?
Also, what is your opinion on getting larger wheels & tires, as opposed to using spacers to achieve the same 'flush' look - and better performance too, from the larger tires.

sjd

I put 15,000km of autox, track and street driving on my AD08's and they still had at least half of their tread left. I think they are the best street tires I have driven on. I didn't love the Rivals as much as I thought I would. I was slower on the track so I am trying the AD08R's this year. They are currently in my living room.

I have 17x9 inch wheels on my MX-5 and since it spreads the tire evenly over the width of the rim, looks and performance are greatly improved. Wider wheels and tires are the way to go.

Ray Al

Love those wheels with the Neova tires!

climacus

There is nothing wrong with the Yoko below 10 deg C. I've driven them all the way into -8 deg C in March and there was zero visible crack in the rubber after 4 yrs. They do need to be stored indoor (above zero) during the winter months or you'll risk hardening the compound.

These tires also grip very well in the wet even after the treads are gone. Great tire, somewhat overkill in Toronto. And they get pretty noisy toward the end.

BlackStealth

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Just a heads up for anyone wanting a really good sticky semi-slick tire, I would highly recommend Nankang NS2R's


::::NANKANG:::: Product-Passenger Car-SPORTNEX-NS-2R




I dare anyone to find a stickier tire for the price. I got a set of four for $700, installed, with tax, and balanced at a local shop in the GTA. Oh and for those of you who are fan boy's of certain brands, feel free to keep spending more for less. These are getting some great reviews


Downside: They are loud. Chinese brand (if you are short sighted for that kind of thing)


Upside: Damn grippy (maybe too much...), fantastic in the rain, tread life seems to be good, amazing price.


Final note - Retailers are expected to markup these tires by a huge factor, so just a friendly heads up for you guys!

Boeuf

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I don't have a problem with chinese tires if they're good. I ran on Federal RS-R's last summer and they were great. Especially for the price.

That being said the tires you're talking about are not semi-slicks, they may fall into the extreme summer catagory but they are not semi-slicks.

I have never driven on them but I'd be willing to bet they're not as grippy and don't handle heat as well as some of the better extreme summer tires and I would bet for sure they're not close to the top 100 or less TW semi-slicks.

Boeuf

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Apparantly those tires are available in two treadwear ratings. 120 for track or 180 for street. 120 comes with a softer compound.
Which tire did you try? Size? Price?

If these tires are better than the Federal RS-R and they're priced similarly then they are probably pretty good for the price.

BlackStealth

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Actually they are e marked semi slick tires. The Ns2's arent but the ns2r's are. They also have a b+ rating in the rain

I got the 180 street compound in size 235/40/18. $700 installed balanced and taxes included.

Boeuf

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I understand they're marketed as semi-slicks but that doesn't necessarily mean they are real semi-slicks.
I would bet that even the 120tw race compound won't be as fast as the ra1, nt01, pilot sport cups, etc, but for the price they are definitely worth a try. Who knows, hopefully some good comparisons will come out on these tires and we can see how they really perform.

BlackStealth

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...what? They are real semi-slicks. They are certified and recognized by various racing leagues and are an R compound. Youre welcome to do your own research on these and im pretty sure youll be blown away.

Those who are in the know, say that these are really, VERY good tires. It remains to be seen how long these last, but who cares when they are priced as such.

...Unfortunately I lost all drifting and hooligan capabilities with these on haha

Oh btw, I tried to buy another set for the hell of it but they seem to be all sold out everywhere now. Say hello to massive retailer markups soon!

I8yourv8

ive got michellin super sport. 245x40x18s and there super grippy tires. Look badass like a drag radial in a way too!

Boeuf

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My point about them not being real semi-slicks is more due to the competition. The 180tw are definately not semi-slicks regardless of how they're marketed. All the top semi-slicks are anywhere from 40-100tw. I know tw is not universal but I have a hard time believing these are on the same level as the current crop of good semi-slicks. I'm sure they're decent for the money. I'd also bet the 180tw aren't as grippy as rs3, rival, ad08r, re11a, z2, or r1r.

This is very similar to all the hype over the federal rs-r when they came out. They were referred to as semi-slicks, which they're not, and everyone was talking about how they're so much better then the higher priced competitors. In the end they were a great tire for the money but they weren't quite as grippy and didn't hold heat as well as the competition.
Also, I doubt you're going to see any markups in the tire price. If vendors raise the price of a Chinese tire to anywhere near the competition then they are not going to sell well. I bet the reason they're out of stock is due to lack of a large North American inventory. Much like the Federal RS-R, which is a difficult tire to get in US or Canada but is readily available in Asia and Australia.

BlackStealth

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I think you should read up what semi-slick actually means and what constitutes a proper R designated tire, what the E-marked designation means, the compound of the tire and why it's semi-slick, its direct rivals and what people have been comparing this to, and the what/why road courses and events have categorized this model. Yes, the 180's are indeed semi slick but obviously not a soft race tire like the 120's are. They are still both semi-slick and use R compounds. Just because a lot of the other's have TW ratings of around 100, doesn't mean this isn't a semi slick tire... In fact, many people have told me that the TW rating for the n2sr is a better balance for their cars as the competitor's model's get much too overheated on certain courses.


Like I said, I can't convince you unless you try them yourself or read what people have been saying who have. Btw, people have also been directly comparing these tires to those that you have mentioned and they are just as good if not better. Especially when comparing the RS-R tires - way better.

Boeuf

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I really don't care if they're a semi-slick. You can call them super sticky better than **** on a blanket tires and it doesn't change anything. You keep saying the reviews are great but where are you reading this?

I searched Nankang NS-2R review and came back with almost nothing after going through 4 pages of google results, just the same kind of crap we're talking about where someone says the reviews are great but doesn't provide any substance.
I can't find any direct comparisons to any tire, semi-slick or otherwise.

I'm not saying they're bad tires but if I take a **** and stick semi-slick on the side of it, does that make it a really sticky competitive ****? Answer: No.

Please post some of these great reviews and comparisons, these tires have been around for over a year now so there must be some. Maybe I just can't use my interweb machine properly to find them.

Boeuf

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I guess no reviews?

mr.zoom

This^.
just got a set and ride is much better than the OEM.

BlackStealth

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naw, just don't care. And there won't be any "Official" reviews if that's what you are looking for - mainstream media will never review something this new, Chinese, and cheap....yet, at least. Like I said, look beyond the world of the internet (easy way), and go to people in the know for info and/or try it out yourself. Don't expect advanced mass marketing techniques from a brand like this yet, lol.




edit: here's one blurb of a review, I guess?

http://www.fastcar.co.uk/2014/01/13/...g-ns-2r-tyres/