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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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Car Won't Go in Gear

Sadness, my car suddenly won't in gear after working fine this morning.

The clutch pedal is not snapped off and the fluid is full. I had a new transmission and new clutch put in less then a year ago
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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How do you know the pedal isn't "snapped"... did you remove it?
Its sometimes difficult to see with it still mounted in the car.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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Need to give us a little more information. Is there grinding when you try to put it into gear, driving conditions, does the clutch feel different now than when it did go into gear, stiff clutch/soft clutch, Do you have a SS or is it the OEM shifter, etc...
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
How do you know the pedal isn't "snapped"... did you remove it?
Its sometimes difficult to see with it still mounted in the car.
I got in under the dash with a flashlight. The top bracket and bottom bracket are both still intact, the springs are still doing their job, the metal rod connecting the pedal is still attached and not bent warped, etc.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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It doesn't go into gear. There is a bit of grinding when you engage the clutch, sort of like if you were to half ride the clutch normally.

It leterally worked.....then didn't. I think a hydraulic may have given out. Better then the clutch I suppose.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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If you're positive the pedal is OK, then it could be either the master or slave cylinder.
Also, have you tried bleeding the clutch line? Could be worth a shot to rule out air in the lines.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
If you're positive the pedal is OK, then it could be either the master or slave cylinder.
Also, have you tried bleeding the clutch line? Could be worth a shot to rule out air in the lines.
Not a bad idea, but I am at work in a suit, lol. The car is 8 levels underground. With a push start I can slide it into second to get out of the garage, then onto the flatbed tow truck (CAA rules, it is like AAA).

My mechanic and I will test out the air in lines tonight
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Well, it is not the slave or master cylinder......something inside is the clutch or tranny is no loner working.

Please be the release bearing.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Mike
Please be the release bearing.
The release bearing is attached to the release fork.
The slave cylinder pushes the top of the fork back while the bottom of the fork pushes the release bearing forward to the pressure plate.
So even if the bearing was bad, it would still push up against the pressure plate to release the clutch disk.
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Damn. What about a bent fork?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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That sucks, sorry I don't know much about troubleshooting that issue. It wouldn't be the syncro's?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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If there is a syncro issue, then it would still shift into gear, but the gear would grind unless you paused a second or two before shifting into the next gear. That is how the issue starts. If you don't replace them, you will eventually grind away the gear(s) until they will no longer engage. Since his issue seems to be with the clutch and not the gear box, I don't think it would be syncros.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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So it turns out the Pilot Bearing blew apart and took the clutch with it.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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So it turns out the Pilot Bearing blew apart and took the clutch with it.
Damn... at least the pilot bearing is probably the cheapest component to replace in your clutch/transmission system.
You're saying it damaged the clutch too? How is the flywheel?
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Damn... at least the pilot bearing is probably the cheapest component to replace in your clutch/transmission system.
You're saying it damaged the clutch too? How is the flywheel?
The flywheel and tranny are ok. The input (or is it output?) shaft had a scuff in it that we were able to sand.

The clutch basically was destroy by the bearing bouncing around in there.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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If your input shaft was not sandable... damn you would need a new eccentric shaft and an engine rebuild!
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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How in God's name does something like that happen???? I can't believe the part would simply just "explode" and take out a number of components. Seriously, what kind of driving are you doing???? lol

I have never heard anything like that happen.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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Hi, I hope you don't mind me asking, but what were all the parts that needed to be replaced? I am experiencing a very similar issue where all of a sudden, I no longer can put it into gear when the car is on. When I turn it off, I am able to put it into gear though. With the car on, when I try to put it into gear, it's like I'm pushing against a wall and the car would seem to rock forward an inch. Won't go into any gear including reverse.

So what was the solution to your problem? Thanks!!

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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by andylam85
Hi, I hope you don't mind me asking, but what were all the parts that needed to be replaced? I am experiencing a very similar issue where all of a sudden, I no longer can put it into gear when the car is on. When I turn it off, I am able to put it into gear though. With the car on, when I try to put it into gear, it's like I'm pushing against a wall and the car would seem to rock forward an inch. Won't go into any gear including reverse.

So what was the solution to your problem? Thanks!!
Yup, that was it exactly! You seem to have the same issue word for word. Once the Pilot bearing is gone, the clutch starts moving around in there and then gives up the ghost.

In my case, I need a new pilot bearing and clutch. The transmission has to be removed from the car and the input shaft had to sanded down.

I would imagine this could also damage more components if you are unlucky like your flywheel and maybe transmission.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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How much did the repair cost you?
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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I had the same exact problem as you guys. So far i've had the clutch/pressure plate replaced, and clutch bracket installed. much better than it used to be, but now i'm having squeaking/vibration on the clutch pedal and rough shifting.
i'm guessing the master cylinder is going out or needs to be bled.... any suggestions?
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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i had the same issue as well. mine was just a few of the springs on the clutch had broken and finally got tangled up and jammed. i could only put the car in gear while stopped as well. i find that 3rd works best for getting around town and a bit of hwy driving lol.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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And we all bitch about our four to 6 year old 8's. We talking about your Subie not your long gone 8, if we are this is the WRONG Forum.
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RXeckless
And we all bitch about our four to 6 year old 8's. We talking about your Subie not your long gone 8, if we are this is the WRONG Forum.
No, it was my 8 that stopped going into gear. This thread actually makes me a little nostalgic. This was the final straw and I sold the 8 after it was repaired.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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If your input shaft was not sandable... damn you would need a new eccentric shaft and an engine rebuild!
What does the transmission input shaft have to do with the engine eccentric shaft?
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