Tyres by Price : looking for opinions
06-15-2005, 12:46 AM
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Tyres by Price : looking for opinions
Ok I've found a few options other than original
All are 235/40/18 prices per tyre fitted
Bridgestone Tritek - $240
Falken 2E326 $259
Falken $225
TSW? - $240
Hankook K104 - $250
Anyone had these, looking for a good wearing low noise tyre (isnt everyone?)
All are 235/40/18 prices per tyre fitted
Bridgestone Tritek - $240
Falken 2E326 $259
Falken $225
TSW? - $240
Hankook K104 - $250
Anyone had these, looking for a good wearing low noise tyre (isnt everyone?)
06-15-2005, 06:03 PM
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Kas, you have to be mindful of the effect of changing to a 235/40 from a 225/45 for two reasons: the relevant roadworthiness laws in your state; and the impact of reducing the rolling circumference on your speedo/odometer.
235/40's are just legal. Their overall diameter is 659.7mm vs 642.2mm for the OEM 225/45's. Your speedo will read about 2.2% faster than current
245/40's are about 6mm less diameter than the OEMs, and will give about a 1% faster speedo. That's why I settled for this size.
For those interested, here are the regs:
235/40's are just legal. Their overall diameter is 659.7mm vs 642.2mm for the OEM 225/45's. Your speedo will read about 2.2% faster than current
245/40's are about 6mm less diameter than the OEMs, and will give about a 1% faster speedo. That's why I settled for this size.
For those interested, here are the regs:
Following is a list of the minimum requirements for alternative wheel & tyres for Australian States & territories. These requirements apply to passenger cars unless otherwise stated. O.E. size refers to any tyre size listed on the vehicle's tyre placard. An alternative tyre size is a tyres size that is not listed on the vehicle's tyre placard. Fitment of wheels & tyres that do not meet these requirements require an engineering certificate to be a legal fitment.
New South Wales: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 15mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is N (140 kph).
Victoria: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is equivalent to the highest state speed limit, which is 110kph or K.
Queensland: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 26mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is N (140 kph).
South Australia: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 15mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is S (180 kph) for new tyres fitted to passenger cars or 140 kph (N) for retreads. Minimum speed rating for four wheel drives is 130 kph (M).
West Australia: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 15mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is S (180 kph) for new tyres fitted to passenger cars (or the vehicle's top speed if lower than 180kph), or 140 kph (N) for retreads. Minimum speed rating for four wheel drives is N or 140 kph.
Tasmania: No specific ruling in maximum or minimum overall diameters of alternative wheels & tyres, Except that both must comply with Australian Tyre & Rim Association standards. The speed rating must be equal to or better than the vehicle's top speed.
Australian Capital Territory: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 26mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is S (180 kph) for new tyres fitted to passenger cars or 140 kph (N) for retreads. Minimum speed rating for four wheel drives is 140 kph (N).
Northern Territory: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is that stated on the tyre placard.
New South Wales: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 15mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is N (140 kph).
Victoria: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is equivalent to the highest state speed limit, which is 110kph or K.
Queensland: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 26mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is N (140 kph).
South Australia: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 15mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is S (180 kph) for new tyres fitted to passenger cars or 140 kph (N) for retreads. Minimum speed rating for four wheel drives is 130 kph (M).
West Australia: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 15mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is S (180 kph) for new tyres fitted to passenger cars (or the vehicle's top speed if lower than 180kph), or 140 kph (N) for retreads. Minimum speed rating for four wheel drives is N or 140 kph.
Tasmania: No specific ruling in maximum or minimum overall diameters of alternative wheels & tyres, Except that both must comply with Australian Tyre & Rim Association standards. The speed rating must be equal to or better than the vehicle's top speed.
Australian Capital Territory: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size or 26mm smaller than the smallest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is S (180 kph) for new tyres fitted to passenger cars or 140 kph (N) for retreads. Minimum speed rating for four wheel drives is 140 kph (N).
Northern Territory: The overall diameter of alternative tyres must be not more than 15mm larger than the largest O.E. size. Minimum speed rating is that stated on the tyre placard.
06-15-2005, 06:48 PM
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Not this again Timbo. I am sure Kas knows :p
What is wrong when you doing 102 on the speedo, you actual speed is 100kmh
? I am sure there are less compatitive prices in 245/40 than 235/40 where every single V8 is using.
Tim, Will you go back to 225/40 if you can find a great tyre in a good price??
Kas, Hankook out of the list too. Great prices.
What is wrong when you doing 102 on the speedo, you actual speed is 100kmh
? I am sure there are less compatitive prices in 245/40 than 235/40 where every single V8 is using.Tim, Will you go back to 225/40 if you can find a great tyre in a good price??
Kas, Hankook out of the list too. Great prices.
06-15-2005, 06:53 PM
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I'm up for new tyres shortly. Here's some Brisbane northside prices:
1. Potenza RE040 225/45/18 = $437 fitted & balanced +$45 wheel alignment (from local Brisgestone guy)
2. Beaurepaire unspecified 245/40/18 = from $424 fitted & balanced
3. Nankang NS-2 245/40/18 =216 fitted and balanced (local guy around the corner from work)
Note that the Nankangs have a higher load rating (97) than the stock tyres. At half the price of the Potenzas, the Nakangs only have to give me 20,000km to equal the value of the Potenzas.
1. Potenza RE040 225/45/18 = $437 fitted & balanced +$45 wheel alignment (from local Brisgestone guy)
2. Beaurepaire unspecified 245/40/18 = from $424 fitted & balanced
3. Nankang NS-2 245/40/18 =216 fitted and balanced (local guy around the corner from work)
Note that the Nankangs have a higher load rating (97) than the stock tyres. At half the price of the Potenzas, the Nakangs only have to give me 20,000km to equal the value of the Potenzas.
06-15-2005, 07:10 PM
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taka, I was just being helpful Search is still patchy for me and I couldn't be bother trawling back through the threads to find the original 
I agree there's more choice and better prices in 235/40's -- but some dealers I spoke to won't fit them to replace 225/45's as, for some individual tyre brands (Yokohama is one) the diameter difference is more than 15mm...and therefore not technically legal.
Yes, I would go back to 225/45's...at the right price (not at the $500+ for Michelin/Pirelli ). The wider tyres tramline a bit more and, without a wider rim, you can feel them squirm more than the OEMs unless you really bump the pressure up, and then the ride becomes quite harsh. Beyond a certain point, wider is not necessarily better!
Search is still patchy for me and I couldn't be bother trawling back through the threads to find the original I agree there's more choice and better prices in 235/40's -- but some dealers I spoke to won't fit them to replace 225/45's as, for some individual tyre brands (Yokohama is one) the diameter difference is more than 15mm...and therefore not technically legal.
Yes, I would go back to 225/45's...at the right price (not at the $500+ for Michelin/Pirelli
). The wider tyres tramline a bit more and, without a wider rim, you can feel them squirm more than the OEMs unless you really bump the pressure up, and then the ride becomes quite harsh. Beyond a certain point, wider is not necessarily better!
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06-15-2005, 09:33 PM
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To give myself some alternatives, I looked at Toyo in the 245/40/18 range (Prices are from Ian Diffen, Strathpine, Qld):
1. Trampio Gu:wn 245/40 ZR18 97W - $251 each
2. Proxes TI-R 245/40 ZR18 97Y - $461 each
My understanding is that the Trampio is more of a sports touring tyre with good tread wear, quiet ride and longevity, while the Proxes is more for out and out sports performance. In comparison with the Nankang NS-2 245/40 R18 97H, the Trampio has a higher speed rating, and I would hazard that Toyo are better regarded in terms of overall quality. Perhaps a good compromise for me.
1. Trampio Gu:wn 245/40 ZR18 97W - $251 each
2. Proxes TI-R 245/40 ZR18 97Y - $461 each
My understanding is that the Trampio is more of a sports touring tyre with good tread wear, quiet ride and longevity, while the Proxes is more for out and out sports performance. In comparison with the Nankang NS-2 245/40 R18 97H, the Trampio has a higher speed rating, and I would hazard that Toyo are better regarded in terms of overall quality. Perhaps a good compromise for me.
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I can vouch for the T1-R. They are in a completely different league to the Bridgestones, but $461 sounds a bit steep considering I bought 19's for $380.00 each down here in Melbourne!
The last set of tyres I had on my last car were in the Trampio range. They were fitted to my modded Corolla Sportivo (135kw at the wheels). They gave pretty good handling in both the wet & the dry and did 20K of pretty hard driving on them before I sold it. The tyres were still in excellent condition at that point. So I guess would be a pretty good tyre too for the 8.
I guess it just comes down to how much you wish to spend and the amount of performance you want out of the tyre. If you don't really push the car hard I would say the Trampio's would do you well, at a guess.
The last set of tyres I had on my last car were in the Trampio range. They were fitted to my modded Corolla Sportivo (135kw at the wheels). They gave pretty good handling in both the wet & the dry and did 20K of pretty hard driving on them before I sold it. The tyres were still in excellent condition at that point. So I guess would be a pretty good tyre too for the 8.
I guess it just comes down to how much you wish to spend and the amount of performance you want out of the tyre. If you don't really push the car hard I would say the Trampio's would do you well, at a guess.
06-23-2005, 06:23 PM
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Have you checked out the prices on Toyo Trampio GU:WN? These are exceptional value for money, and provide pretty good dry grip and fantastic wet grip.
They should also be a fair bit cheaper than the Proxes T1R/T1S.
http://www.toyo.com.au/TPG%20page.htm
They should also be a fair bit cheaper than the Proxes T1R/T1S.
http://www.toyo.com.au/TPG%20page.htm
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Originally Posted by dbb
Have you checked out the prices on Toyo Trampio GU:WN? These are exceptional value for money, and provide pretty good dry grip and fantastic wet grip.
They should also be a fair bit cheaper than the Proxes T1R/T1S.
http://www.toyo.com.au/TPG%20page.htm
They should also be a fair bit cheaper than the Proxes T1R/T1S.
http://www.toyo.com.au/TPG%20page.htm
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