Interesting.

I'll be keen to drive cars with both options in the future to see how they compare in real world driving. As you say, unless you're some TLGP hero there's not a lot of dragstrip work involved in our car's lives.

 

torque down low isn't a cure all either. I can still bog down and get a crap launch in my 5.7L v8 but it dosn't happen that often

 

I definetely want more power than stock guess i will wait and see what develops in the next few months with all the various FI kits .



After reading as much as possible on FI Iam confused

Daniel

 

the best thing to do is to wait and see who finalise creating a reliable kit

 

All depends what you mean by reliable (and what you want to do with it).

I've spoken with a customer of the RotorMaster S/C kit who says he's very happy with it as a daily driver and hasn't had any reliability problems. I don't know anyone who's tracking or otherwise putting a lot of pressure on their car with one though.

As for the GReddy, see Gomez's earlier comments. I'm yet to be convinced that turboing is the way to go. Too many local people who seem to have the experience and expertise have abandoned T/C (either completely or for S/C) after spending quite a bit of time and $$$ developing a T/C setup. That rings enough alarm bells for me not to bother with the GReddy option and we're yet to see Ciao's or anyone else's turbo setup offered as a commercially available kit.

And then there's Hymee's third option, which we're all waiting patiently for.

 

one company has changed from turbo to SC. one! that's it.

even that company uses a centrifugal SC with a similar compressor to a turbo. probably since they couldn't fit the same size compressor on a turbo with the limited space.

how many SC rotaries do you see? the numbers of turbo renesis motors cracking 300hp is growing steadily.

 

Too many coincidence of this .
Ithink id funny how ezzy says conflict of interest and all of a sudden The big boss Omricon talks . There is a pattern i see
Gomez chime in and then timbo then revolver .
Iam sure more than Ezzy see this pattern , i do
Ihaver seen the video of cioas car in full flight and really moves
It lookjs like the best option for turbo .You can see thre power
So far i see there is only Rotor master , Which I really dont like and cioas which is doing test poilishing i think ,Why would you pay 13k on a kit , I would just do suspension mod and maybe brakes then power upgrade
for the price of ciaso turbo , you can get suspension mod and brakes under 12 k
I think hymee is done a great job for rx8 with the scanaliser , but i think he choose the wrong of induction .I have a s5 rx7 and the best part of a rotary is the constan surge of power through the revs and the power build up
Rotor master is only p[owerful in the high revs .a turbo gives a good low midrange push , thats why i own rotaries

Mirkop can you PM me with Ciaos email and update s please ?

 

good point too

 

Taka is right too when he say the power under 3k is not nessecsary
if you can clutch good it doesnt matter .Axial supercharger looks like is nearly finished and is compact as well . it will be intesrting to see the price of this type of fi

 

<<prepare to duck>>

Please give me a link to where a tubro 8 has been racing (I mean racing as in doing 20 laps race, and in different circuit)....

So far there are track days with the turbo 8... some reported issues that need to be addressed.

It is still only a "street" solution. I yet to see anything that allows me to spend my money on at all :p

My mod continue and if that means i have a fun NA - so be it and it is at least very fulfilling to drive.

Boy was that fun testing my car yesterday.

Just doing alignment settings, tyre pressure and damper adjustment testings is more than enough fun for me

 

good job Taka.
Ciao says he uses tyrack testing ,but you are right 20 laps is the test .Maybe ciao can take video of his test track session and i will be feel more confident of the turbo setup , or any type of setup with fi

 

i was just kidding... 20 laps in a normally build car will be bad still....

Engine, brake and tyres are very very stressed in 20 hot laps. Very well....

 

Sorry Dave......missed that, say it again?

 

I really dont know what happened with Ciao but I really would like to see his ride along with the some stats on his turbo.

 

Man these threads have more mistery to them than Agatha Christie.

Why are people attacking posts by Ciao , mirkop and sproozt ??? i am confused

Being new to this forum can someone help straighten me out

 

You're not the only one confused Dan.

I dont think I was around when all these shenanigans started

 

To my way of thinking all the FI buyers will check out all the systems available and decide for themselves what suits them best according to the system figures and price reliability etc .



I definetely prefer a reversable system just in case i want to bring the car back to stock .

Daniel

 

Kunz, mirkop is the only mone with info on cioas kit ,I would like to see more too
gomez make up your mind is it mirkop or me that is being ciao ?
i will check the .com.au to get some more info i think .
ciaos ozzy turbo thread is close on this site

 

You're conveniently ignoring the fact that Mazda Australia spent time and money developing some turbo prototypes but then effectively abandoned the project (read my post again - I didn't say all who had previously gone turbo had gone to S/C). Given MA's previous development and sale of the turbo NB MX5 this has some significance.

Call me stupid if you like but I also believe Joe Signorelli and his team at RotorMaster have a great deal of credibility in the business of building blown rotaries. When they too spend time and money developing a turbo option and then also abandon that project in favour of S/C, there's enough smoke for this little black duck to think there's fire.

And that doesn't even include Hymee and co. who are developing S/C for some reasons which they have explained at length in their threads.

As for the number of turbo Renesis motors cracking 300hp, I'm only aware of two (both in Qld) and I wouldn't know what kind of numbers they are developing. I know even less whether they are a reliable option for a daily driver.

Like it or not there's only been the ONE company to do the work and get a FI kit to market locally to date. The turbo supporters will have some more credibility when a proven kit becomes a commercially available option for the regular consumer (i.e. someone who doesn't have a tuner living in the garage).

 

sprootz,

If you're really sold on Ciao's setup why don't you go buy one. I see little point in continuing a debate that is giving out more heat than light.

As for me chiming in - big deal. This is a public thread and I'm entitled to contribute just like you.

 

Dave, why isnt Ciao allowed on the forum to share his findings/product?

I'm not really aware of the reasons behind his (permanent) ban, I just hope its not being done to kill competition by the 'powers that be' who influence the Aussie section of this forum.

 

I have made up my mind. I very much doubt I am wrong on this. Here is my theory.

If you, Ciao, CarlRX8, mirkop and Dan 8 were in a bar together......it'd be a very cheap shout.

 

carefull gomez, no need to offend people. I take offence to your comment, and think a warning is due.

 

It's just a theory mate.

I'd really love to be proven wrong.

 

I received your warning. You'll forgive me if I don't PM you back.

Adios.