Revolver

Done - but they won't print it. Noticed after I sent it that they've published 3 letters on the Monaro's demise and received heaps more so I've probably missed the boat. Never mind - at least this particular audience gets the point!

takahashi

I wish my dictaphone can type for me in this forum

StratoMike

Nicely balanced letter there Revolver.
At least at first glance it seems nicely balanced. :-D

Holden owners will read it and not quite be able to put their finger on why they are pissed off.

Revolver

hehe, thanks Mike.

However, I think even Monaro owners will understand I'm having a shot at them. :D :D

MC is in the small minority of intelligent people to have bought a Monaro (even if he is hopelessly misguided in his views). :D :D :D

monaroCountry

Never said it was a sportscar...........................if you want a sportscar get a ferrari or porsche, even a clubman. Not a GTO or an RX8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. The GTO fulfills its purpose quite nicely, its a great grand tourer.

timbo

Yep...just like a Calais

AMG

Mate, now you're confusing a sports car for a performance car....there is a difference!

I've even had my MX5 lapping some porsches at mallala...sports does not always equal performance, and vice versa!

Revolver

Somebody once told me that Harley Davidsons make good touring bikes.

Hmm, aren't they also bought by middle-aged blokes in need of a "pep up" and young blokes who want to manufacture some "toughness"?? :D :D

Yep, I think we've nailed the demographic. :D

And if the RX8 isn't a true sportscar (however you might define it), it's a helluva lot closer to being one than a Monaro will ever be. For a start there's a 350kg plus difference in kerb weight for the porky Holden to contend with..

Have fun 'grand touring'. :p :D

StratoMike

LOL- for real!

timbo

I want to dips me lid to MC...he's come in here defending the General, knowing there not a friend to be seen. We've provoked him, flamed him and been downright rude to him...and he's kept an even keel...and kept coming back. Sorta bloke you'd buy a beer if you met him

Now Revolver, way back you made some comment about Porsche and its Cayenne. To me, that's the day Porsche bastardised its gene pool (although some will argue that was with the 924)

The day Ferrari launches a slab-sided, lard-arsed SUV I'm gonna join a monastery :D

Revolver

I 2nd that. In fact, I have repeatedly complimented him on his attitude (and intelligence). The fact that I then took a bat to his remarks is neither here nor there. :D Nothing more than robust debate amongst adults and I never queried his parentage or personal habits. I'd still love to have a beer with him for being such a good sport. In fact, if he turns up to the Nats to spectate, I'll buy. :D

Now Timbo, I thought I also made it clear that I hated these blobby over-powered 4WDs. My point was, if we have to have one, may as well have the fastest one 'cause none of 'em are pretty!!

Otherwise I agree that the Cayenne represents a sell out to grossly fat Americans who need an SUV because they can no longer fit into cars that normal people buy.

As for Ferrari - only a matter of time my friend. All the Germans are building poxy trucks now (e.g. MB, BMW, VW & Audi) so it is only a matter of time before the Italians decide they 'have' to follow suit to keep up. Our only saving grace might be if the oil price starts to put a dint in demand for large 4WDs (already happening here).

And I'm doing my best to forget the 924. In fact, I blasted past one this morning and just felt sorry for the nerd.

takahashi

A good car is only a tool. It is really depends how you use it.

Ahhhh hemm....

Revolver

hehehe, the blue gloves crack me up every time! :D :D

takahashi

I can give you a blue finger j/k :p

AMG

Taka our fashion conscious member likes to be colour co-ordinated :p

Revolver

Why, is your *** cold?? :D :D

takahashi

No I am thirsty and thinking of 2 beers but I decided on one! :p

Revolver

Que???

takahashi

He is testing his post count to see if it is going up... you know MikeB has lost 2,000 posts and no one knows why....

it is totally off topic...

Back to my video... I think there is lack of respect for some of the other RX-8 from a Monaro driver. Stu could not get pass on although he is right on their ***. In the straight the car is just too powerful.

I would really love to drive one of these on the track.

ILIV48

Yeah very annoying. The Monaro would pull away on the straight so as I could not pass, but then out of the next corner I am on his **** being slowed down by him until either the main straight or the back straight again where he would again pull away a little instead of just laying off the gas a little until I go past.

I think it just comes down to the drivers attitude in not wanting to be passed by what he figures is a slower car.

AMG

When i used to get involved in sprints as part of the open briefing to all drivers were the comments that a car that has better brakes and corners better will post faster lap times than a car with grunt, so let them go past instead of hindering their track times.

rotarenvy

it's a major pain on track days. the rules and safety dictate you can only pass on straights and so you can't use the 8's brakes and cornering to it's full advantage. your slowed down through out the infield and on the straight you don't have the power to pass.