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Old 11-08-2005, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ageo
Revolver you sure your not Bob Carr (trying to make use of your spare time?)
Now that really IS offensive Adrian.

Can't stand that *****.

Wholeheartedly agree with your remaining sentiments though.
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Revolver , has ciao upset you or somethiung. I cant see where all this is comming from
Most people enjoy what he has done , and what he says
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Who are most people, sprootz...and who exactly are you??
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Originally Posted by sprootz
Cool, lets bash the rich guy, I'll hold his head
Spare me. You are willfully taking my comments out of context because you have no other response to the valid points I raised in respect of your earlier posts.



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i can only see ciao defend the claims that his kit is a crap chinese thing , which as a chinese importer deeply offend me.
I wouldn't have a clue whether the parts he is using are good or bad and can understand your disgust at any racial slight. However, it is plain that I was not criticising his defence of his product but rather his denigration of others.



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If ciaos kit is of top quality ,then is it a crime that it is also affordable. He's spent alot of money on his kit and want's others to enjoy his passion.I think if the kit is commercially available he dosn't need to make a lot of proffit,so at the end of the day we ALL"the forum"WIN DON"T WE.like ezzy said competition keeps them honest
Again, show me where I have suggested he is not entitled to market a cheaper kit or compete with others?



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about attitude , I think ciao is a really passion man and has only defend himself ,not attack others
I agree that appears to be his intention but that is not what is happening.
Old 11-08-2005, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sprootz
Revolver , has ciao upset you or somethiung. I cant see where all this is comming from
Most people enjoy what he has done , and what he says
Ciao has upset many.....Revolver is not a lone voice in the wilderness. You can't see where this is coming from as you are blinded by your self confessed love of turbos.
Old 11-08-2005, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sprootz
Revolver , has ciao upset you or somethiung. I cant see where all this is comming from
Most people enjoy what he has done , and what he says
I have nothing personal against Ciao at all and have repeatedly wished him well with his project.

I simply wish this angst to end so we can get back to learning more about the various mods being developed for the car without the pissing contest.

As for your last statement, from the feedback I'm getting I can't agree.
Old 11-08-2005, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomez
Ciao has upset many.....Revolver is not a lone voice in the wilderness. You can't see where this is coming from as you are blinded by your self confessed love of turbos.
Sorry have to interject here , I have only annoyed a couple , including you .And it all stated with that fiberglass / stainless muffler Saga .
Dont hold grudges gomez , its not worth it .
Ive built my bridge , so should you .
Lets get back on topic . And I warn anyone who makes a comment on my kit which is untrue , I will only defend myself .
If someone said that you were a lousy lawyer Revolver , Im sure you would defend yourself
Can we all be friends now ? you too maxxx

Ciao

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Old 11-08-2005, 11:28 PM
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OK. I think everyone has had enough to say, and the right of reply. Lets now get this back on topic. The topic is... Rotormaster Procharged RX-8 Test drive.

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Originally Posted by Ciao
Sorry have to interject here , I have only annoyed a couple , including you .And it all stated with that fiberglass / stainless muffler Saga .....
....for you have yet to apologise for, BTW. You were/are dead wrong, and cast a slur on a long standing forum member/vendor of good repute. You are a Johnny Come Lately who has been here for two minutes, and you have yet to earn my respect. I won't forget/forgive until you have delivered a sincere public apology and retraction of your comments on this issue.

Ciao,

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Old 11-08-2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hymee
OK. I think everyone has had enough to say, and the right of reply. Lets now get this back on topic. The topic is... Rotormaster Procharged RX-8 Test drive.

Cheers,
Hymee.
Sorry Hymee. I have finished now.
Old 11-08-2005, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ciao
If someone said that you were a lousy lawyer Revolver , Im sure you would defend yourself
Can we all be friends now ? you too maxxx
hehehe, depends who's saying it and where! I've got a thick skin.

I'm more than happy to bury the hatchet but please have a think about what I was trying to get across to you - it was well intentioned.
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Sorry Hymee. I have finished now.
Me too!

So, does anyone know how many kits RM have sold?

Would be good to hear from some of their customers as to what they think of the kit.
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I think you need a cuddle. gomez
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Originally Posted by Revolver

I'm more than happy to bury the hatchet but please have a think about what I was trying to get across to you - it was well intentioned.
Sure mate . No probs . We cool

Ciao

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Originally Posted by Gomez
Ciao has upset many.....Revolver is not a lone voice in the wilderness. You can't see where this is coming from as you are blinded by your self confessed love of turbos.
Please read my comments about "my weekend in rm's car"I was the one who said the kit was really good while most people were bagging the price of the kit.Again do some homework reguarding the SPROOTZ.I love the kit I also was the one who compared the car to a honda NSX&911 turbo.My family car is also getting blown in the next few months just waiting on parts(at the right price) .

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Revolver no comment,hymee wants us to talk RM now!
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So what you are all saying is that the RM kit and the Turbo kit all have their fors and against.....

interesting......

this is almost like the great debate before an election.......


I'll just wait and see what the worm says.
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Originally Posted by Gibbo
I'll just wait and see what the worm says.
Oh dear - I'm frankly overwhelmed at the options that throws up.

But, I'm going to be a good boy today.

Well done Gibbo - we needed a good laugh in this thread.

You're deadright about pros and cons.

Here's my summary for RM's kit:

Pros - First to market (domestically) and appears to have had the most testing, development, etc given their previous experience with turbo-charging the engine. Sold by a mob with proven expertise in rotary engines. Walked the walk at the Nats (check that lap time). Allows power all the way up the rev range, backed by public dyno stats, etc.

Cons - Cost ($12K isn't cheap). None of us yet know whether Hymee's twin screw might be a better option for day to day driveability (and power for that matter). Warranty issues. Long term reliability (I'd like to hear how all the customers have got on over the next 6-9 months). Marital problems following purchase .

Some of these apply to the other kits being developed but I won't comment because both people responsible for them are already active here and can speak for themselves in the applicable thread.
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im sure that RM would not sell the kit if it is not reliable or he is not happy with it.......he did put over 20,000km's on it......... after all he was not happy with the turbo kit he experimented with..and obviously he did not sell it ....... that is my reasoning.........also anyone you ask in the performance and racing scene about Joe they will tell you that he is a real gentleman and very straight up...


not long now......
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I find that the majority of RX8 owners sure have a different mindset when it comes to major performance modifications. I guess that is due to the initial price tag of the vehicle itself.

You are going about this far too rationally Revolver
Once you accept that strapping a FI kit on an N/A car is not something 'normal' (read boring) people do, the decision making process is much easier.

Throw the warranty, increased wear, decreased resale, increased repair cost considerations out of the window.

As a performance car enthusiast, your 2 deciding factors are:
1) do I want to go faster?
2) can I afford it? - and if no -
3) do I want to do it anyway

Repeat until you are
a) deep in debt
b) interested in another model

For those unfortunate 'other people', cars are merely a means of transportation.






Originally Posted by Revolver

You're deadright about pros and cons.

Here's my summary for RM's kit:

Pros - First to market (domestically) and appears to have had the most testing, development, etc given their previous experience with turbo-charging the engine. Sold by a mob with proven expertise in rotary engines. Walked the walk at the Nats (check that lap time). Allows power all the way up the rev range, backed by public dyno stats, etc.

Cons - Cost ($12K isn't cheap). None of us yet know whether Hymee's twin screw might be a better option for day to day driveability (and power for that matter). Warranty issues. Long term reliability (I'd like to hear how all the customers have got on over the next 6-9 months). Marital problems following purchase .
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Muzz you nailed it brother..............thats me in a nut shell......LMAO....

im sure once the RX8's run out of warranty and are available on the second hand market at a the rite price..guys will be putting $20K, $40K even upto $80K in building some mind blowing cars.......im afraid to think how much money i have spent over my life time on moding cars..and im not finished...........i guess if you enjoy it why not.. why do we all work so hard.....

Revolver, the idea is to make your better half part of the project..........and you also need to spend big on the bride during the project..so she don't feel neglegted or just to distract her... LMAO....every time i mod one of my cars..someone gets an addition to their wardrobe or some very overdue house works is getting done very efficiently................man i got expensive hobbies.................
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All valid points guys and I'm sure we've all made "hang the expense" decisions more than once.

I guess it all comes down to a personal risk assessment (having regard to the looming behemoth of a mortgage that you may or may not have ).

I'm still interested to hear from customers as they first get it and then later as to whether they're still happy so keep us posted Maxxx.
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how come non of the RM customers comes on here and give free plugs?
its not that joe/RM ppl are computer dummies, plus dave (aka DMRH) would've warn us to look out for certain supercharged 8's on sydney streets, so most of us wont embrass ourselves.... heheheeee
i'd be awesome to hear from RM customers' own reviews.... guess we will have to hear maxx's again... hahahaaa jokes....

edit: REM ---> RM

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Originally Posted by EZZY
how come non of the REM customers comes on here and give free plugs?
its not that joe/RM ppl are computer dummies, plus dave (aka DMRH) would've warn us to look out for certain supercharged 8's on sydney streets, so most of us wont embrass ourselves.... heheheeee
i'd be awesome to hear from RM customers' own reviews.... guess we will have to hear maxx's again... hahahaaa jokes....
Ezzy .!!you crack me up ... stop it.!!..
ROFLMAO!!!
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Originally Posted by Ciao
Ezzy .!!you crack me up ... stop it.!!..
ROFLMAO!!!
what.....?
what did i do? what did i say wrong?
(yes, i know the REM bit, it supposed to be RM... )


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