Ciao

That was'nt directed at you BTW

Ciao

Dave

Ciao

You Italian ??

Era uno concerto che non voglio scordare mai . meraviglioso !

( It was a concert I will never forget . Marvellous !)

The dyno will hopefully be next week ...A stupid bloody long line up ..again
The owner has been in the States for the SEMA show , and wont let anyone else touch my car ..as he himself worked on the MAZDA Aust turbo concept

Keep ya all posted

Ciao

Dave

Revolver

Fair enough but you have a habit of being remarkably defensive (and mildly offensive) in some of your replies.

Why don't you take your own advice and just chill.

All going well continued testing will demonstrate whether or not the set-up devised for your car is worthwhile and will carry far more weight than shrill replies to your critics.

Just something for you to think about.

timbo

I think it is becoming fairly evident that it would be more appropriate for vendors or proposed vendors of products/services to stick to their own threads when commenting on the claims of theirs vs others.

Intervening in threads started by or dealing with other products, with comments aimed fairly obviously to denigrate or criticise the work of competitors is pretty poor form and those doing so ought to think carefully about the risk to their own reputation.

More generally, I observe that those who seem to understand these fairly fundamental rules of human behaviour almost universally command respect in terms of their opinions, and the work they present for others to judge.

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

So when you have done the equivalent of 10 Bathurst's with no issues....

I'd have to agree with Timbo's sentiments. I don't think you should be so agressive in this thread about someone else's product. At least they (RM) have done some laps to show up the bugs.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Revolver

Well said Timbo.

takahashi

You are going break the test driver Dave????

200km track day will kill me let alone doing 50 of them

I am up for it though if you throw the keys at me.... I cannot ask for more track times


BTW... let don't forget everyone, including you, are in early stage of FI. Until you crack the engine open afterward, you will not know what is going on...

Ciao

You dont really mean that ,do you ?
I am sorry you feel that way . I certainly am defensive , (paticularly when misstruths are involved ) and I dont appologise for that . I truly try not to be offensive by any means .

I have certainly had my fair share of bashing on this forum previously , and have been consciuos of my replies to sarcastic attacks etc . However , I have seen forum members defending me ..Which I am most gratefull. I havent really had to defend myself too much at all



Ciao

Dave

Ciao

Originally Posted by timbo
Got any other installs happening yet, Ciao?


Cool . I thought i was just answering your question

Ciao

I am not going to do 10,000 kays straight .... surely you did'nt mean that

And any issues that may arise , I will let the forum know . But after the 5,000 km mark things are humming along nicely

If I sell 1 or ten it does'nt bother me , this was labour of love, a hobby . Gees I have nothing else to do ...ATM.

Dave

Ciao

Cool We'll hook up , do coffee , cut laps ... LOL . I like you Stephen ..
Youre a top bloke

Ciao

Dave

Ciao

Sing after me everyone .....What the world needs now .....is love ....sweet love ...not for some , but for everyone


Smile lots

Dave

sprootz

Who's the pot calling the kettle black. I mean youa have sold kits on a whim,no dyno or stats or even price?I think comments like that should be kept to themselves.

Ciao

I got dragged into this thread only when I defended myself on Ageo's comments to Maxxx about warranty .. Sorry

How about that

Ciao

DAve

timbo

I am not sure what you mean by this at all, but the point I was making is that it would be more helpful and promote a better attitude all around if vendors stuck to making claims in their own threads. I understand the forum rules are that pricing cannot be discussed publicly unless the vendor is also a sponsor/advertiser (but I am sure a PM may get info )

Elsewhere, AFAIK, full details including dynos (FWIW ) have been disclosed either on this forum or in related websites

Let's avoid the contest, OK?

sprootz

I think you should start reading more threads than commenting on them?All the threads ive read reguarding these sort of products have references to manny others,not for self promotion but for comparison.Thats what forums are for arn't they?To give us information on products and we (the consumer )decides what to do with it.As long as the information said about others eg "CIAO" is true and correct not fabricated watered down information said to deface a product.I find people verry anoying in this country when they dont think before they speak.I think all of these people are trying verry verry hard to do their best to produce the best product they can and it's only early days for all of them.It's a learning curve for all of them.I wish them all the best in what they do and hope all of these products shine in their own way. It seems many people are verry single sided on their views reguarding TURBO OR BLOWN OBVIOUSLY THERE FRIEND IS THE ONE DOING THE "BLOWN "OR"TURBO"KIT.Its not hard to see certain support for one and no support for the other.And then theres the so called fence sitters who only stay on the fence for one product and not the other.I think if your comments reguarding these hard working individuals are there to" cut them down " so to speak shoud be kept to themselves.The cat fights are getting borrrring just lets see how they all go.
I wouldnt be selling a car kit to the consumer untill it was tried and tested!
There are kits being sold prematurely whith so little track time .I think its a joke!
Mazda Australia probably will bring a FI option out if the demand is there or maybe they will chose an aftermarket company to produce it like GMH does with HSV.SO keep up the good work cause you never know what might happen next!

Maxxx

Ciao....it would be nice if you extended the same courtesy to me that i did to you on your thread................

Ciao

Peace love and mungbeans

Dave

Revolver

Well, yes I do actually. I'm attempting to be straight with you in the interests of calming this joint down so we can all appreciate the efforts of the various people developing FI kits without the aggro pissing contest that has been going on.

Since you seem to have so little insight into how your posts affect others, let me count the ways:

1. You are more than happy to publicly run down the commercial efforts of others (regular readers of this forum will know what I'm talking about) yet when someone dares to suggest that your FI set-up is yet to be proven or that they prefer another FI alternative you claim you are being "bashed". Sorry, but I don't see you as the victim here.

2. You are capable of some really quite vicious PMs (not to me but I've seen some of the messages you've sent others) and mildly offensive public posts yet when you are challenged to any degree you resort to cheesy stuff like "stay beautiful" and "peace love and mungbeans". At least be consistent.

3. If you believe you have discovered RX8 FI nirvana and wish to share it with others go right ahead but please have some respect for the time and effort put into similar projects by RM and Hymee. You have a remarkable talent for denigrating others' efforts in order to boost your own stocks. Perhaps if you did less of that your "kit" would speak for itself.

4. I accept that guys like Maxxx were unnecessarily provocative at times and you might remember me asking him to calm down as well. He took that on the chin and departed from your thread to start this one. I suggest there would be a lot less aggro if you did the same (much like Timbo has suggested).

Please have a good long think about what you are doing in this place. Whether you are prepared to admit it to yourself or not you have offended and upset a large number of people. Frankly, I don't think that was ever your intention and you appear genuinely surprised at some of the reactions you have received. Perhaps you should spend some time thinking about why that is occurring. We all have a genuine interest in what you are doing and appreciate you sharing the details of it. What we can do without is the angst. It only gets in the way of communicating facts and sharing validly held opinions.

Revolver

Can I respectfully suggest that this is at the root of most of the problem.

For you this is an amateur fun project and if it turns a dollar that will be a bonus. Fine - have a great time. You've told us many times you're independently wealthy and don't need the money.

Others have invested substantial time and money into developing a commercial product. Why cheapen their efforts just to puff up your own personal project? It doesn't do any of you any favours and just causes resentment.

Champion your "kit" all you like but if you wish to pass judgment on what else is out there at least find out all the facts first. For example, you have commented on the RM car over-heating. Why do that when you do not know the full story?

Gomez

Revolver

Mate, that comment is simply untrue. It is distinctly ironic that you are suggesting that others keep comments to themselves when it is you that is peddling falsehoods.

What evidence is there that Hymee has sold any kit on a whim with no dyno stats or pricing? Have you ever met Hymee or discussed the project with him. Those of us who attended the Nats enjoyed a very frank demonstration of what he is about and how he intends to proceed.

Wildcard has elected to play test pilot and has no doubt come to an arrangement with Hymee to do so. So far as I am aware, the kit hasn't been commercially released and won't be until Hymee is completely satisfied with it.

So unless you have some evidence to back up your claim, I suggest you withdraw it.

Revolver

Another example of just the kind of wild claim that seems to get up Ciao's nose. And wasn't it you that mentioned pots and kettles??

Why in one breath do you say everyone should calm down and then in the next post this kind of inflammatory statement.

If you've got an opinion based upon known facts, share it and give us the basis for it. If not, take your own advice and think before you speak.

Ageo

Relvolver you sure your not Bob Carr (trying to make use of your spare time?)

hehe.


P.S All in all folks lets keep it clean, i actually enjoy reading up on different FI.

Enjoy your day.


Adrian

sprootz

Cool, lets bash the rich guy, I'll hold his head

I remember TAKA saying it overheated ,not ciao. And also i can only see ciao defend the claims that his kit is a crap chinese thing , which as a chinese importer deeply offend me .
If ciaos kit is of top quality ,then is it a crime that it is also affordable
He's spent alot of money on his kit and want's others to enjoy his passion.I think if the kit is commercially available he dosn't need to make a lot of proffit,so at the end of the day we ALL"the forum"WIN DON"T WE.like ezzy said competition keeps them honest
about attitude , I think ciao is a really passion man and has only defend himself ,not attack others

Keep up good work ciao