NT Rotor Head

Oh, to clarify, my car came with the 'F' flash originally. I haven't had it checked or reflashed yet.

takahashi

I better go and check it out this weekend... hangon I should speak to them first!

Hymee

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I went to my service guys this morning, and we got the WDS out to check again. The WDS had "the latests updates installed last week" so was as "up-to-date" as it could be.

The WDS reported that my "E" flash was the lastest (no upgrade available).

So I can only conclude that the "F" flash has not been released to WDS yet.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Gomez 2

L&L, no I haven't driven an "E" flash car, so I can't make a comparison.....I'm very happy with the performance of my car and honestly don't think I need any more KW!

I've done the drag racing to death in earlier cars, had a fang around Mallala, Winton, and Calder during club days......Got the speed thing out of my system.

Now I enjoy a "spirited" drive in a well built, great handling car with adequate performance.

My fuel economy is in line with that of NT Rotor Head's.....14k/100Km on the first tank, 11K/100Km's being the best I've seen. Done 2200K's now.

Regards, Go "Bowling hat on the rear parcel shelf" mez.

takahashi

I think just leave it until next time you check your car Gomaz. I will check with City Mazda this week to see if they have updated WDS...

They are sometimes clueless depends who you speak to. I will try to speak to Brain

Ageo

I Spoke to my service manager today and he told me that they did the WDS to download all the latest data on the vehicle but not upgrade's to the ECU.

rx8 - smooth!

I am having my heat shield replaced on Friday and the dealer has agreed to reflash the ecu so it will be very interesting to see what difference there is.

I will let everyone know after I get the car back.

timbo

Well, after settling in the last few days to the "E" update, my subjective judgements are that:
- it is nippier, especially low down as others have mentioned;
- fuel economy may be better but it will be a while before I have data to support.

takahashi

oh it will be fun to see the "Timbo data" pre and post flash

Hymee

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Hey smoothy, about what VIN range is yours, presuming now it has the "pre-E" cal?

Mine is having the heat insulator checked/replaced tomorrow at its 20,000 service.

Cheers,
Hymee.

mktchin

hi all

my wife drove the rx-8 today after the ecu upgrade and she felt it was more responsive in the lower rev range.

i wonder if i have the F flash. the dealer only got the new discs recently.

my brother's getting his car back tomorrow. i'll get him to ask the service which version was installed.

mike

vafuncool

I just got mine back from having the heat damper replaced and while I was there I asked about the reflash and the service guy was going to check it out for me. On my return to pickup the car he said there was no updates currently available to the ECU. GO FIGURE.

Hymee

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That is not such a big deal. How old is the car? What is the VIN range. Mine is an E flash around the 500 mark. They don't necessarliy send the latest flash out on WDS the day the cars leave the factory with it. It takes some time to trickle through.

It is quite funny though, as once all you guys start getting "tune ups" you won't want your PCM reflashed anymore!!!

Cheers,
Hymee.

vafuncool

Thanks Hymee,
My VIN range is in the 350-400 range and the car has a build date of July 03. Excuse my ignorance, what do you mean by "tune ups"?

Hymee

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We know these:

319 is "Pre E".
WDS is saying "E" is the lastest.

Assuming your dealers WDS was as up-to-date as my dealers, then that would put it in the "E" range I'd say. If you PM me your VIN, I'll update the list. Yours seems the earliest "E" we now know of so far.

What I mean is if anyone "tunes up" then car with a chip/piggy-back or even manages to reflash the PCM with their own "tune", then you wouldn't want the PCM re-flashed, as:

(a) the mappings in the chip/piggyback would not necessarily be compatible with the new Cal (in the case of a chip or piggy-back), or

(b) you would obliterate you own "tune" (in the case of a custom PCM calibration

Lots of fun, hey!

Cheers,
Hymee.

timbo

Just to confirm, vafuncool. Your service guy said there was no update -- but did he tell you the current 'version number' you had installed, ie, that it was in fact the version ending with 'E'.

I'm only doing this because, IME, there's an awful lot of ignorance in the service depts of Mazda dealers, and if he hasn't installed the latest WDS service CD, then the answer he gave is correct in terms of his WDS, but not in terms of the current state of play for ECU updates.

This is software update/upgrade 101 learning time for dealers, methinks

Hymee

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Sometimes it is hard to get "behind the scenes". Service centers should cater for those interested enough. I watched my "cal" get checked, so I could see the numbers for myself.

Unfortuneatley, the guys behind the counter don't always know what is going on. Today, I asked the "counter" what oil was put in. "This Castrol Synthetic" stuff was the answer, and I was shown a brochure. "But Mazda says the Rotary Oil is recommended" I said. I asked the workshop forman, and he said, no we cant get any of the Castrol stuff. We used our last 3 bottles of the genuine Mazda oil in your car. Here - have the leftovers. So I got a 1 litre bottle with about 300ml left in it for top ups

Just goes to show!

Cheers,
Hymee.

takahashi

We should get an order of the mazda oil to the dealer quick... Oh I should go and hunt for more this weekend - sounds like the people are using them quick

vafuncool

You're right Timbo, I don't think the service guy checked my car's ECU at all. He said that he gets emails from MA nearly every day and there was no mention of any reflashes to the ECU.

timbo

Apparently, the WDS updates come into the dealers on CDs. It is then up to the service guys in the dealerships to update the WDS. If they haven't done that update then the WDS will say there is not one for your car.

Ageo

Ah guys i just check my pcm number.
lol to confuse things even more mine came to

N3J6 18 881D


not sure what the hell that means but my car was made August 03.

rx8 - smooth!

The vin is 258 and build date is June 03. It was one of the first in QLD so it should qualify for the reflash.

BTW did you get the email I sent you - Your PM box was full?

rx8 - smooth!

I have now had the benefit of driving my car for a few days since I got the latest flash installed in the PCM.

There appears to me to be significantly more pull in the three to five thousand rev range. Very pleasing. Interestingly I have detected more of a burned oil smell since the work was done to the car. I did have the new heat shield installed so it could possibly be this part giving off some vapours whilst it is getting used to the heat this motor generates or maybe they are injecting a little more oil into the motor to keep temperatures down as they have leaned it out a little?

Gomez

Forget "F" flash, the Yanks have the "M" flash now!!

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=25153

Gomez.

Hymee

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There CalID's use a different number system than ours.

Cheers,
Hymee