Information On Mazda Re-flash
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guys you have it all wrong Mazda Australia is a great company and they will do anything to keep the customer happy and dosent have to telll you guys anything you dont need to know if the car is running fine weel there aint no prblem with it all these reflashes mean very minor changes changes that you would never feel a lot of you guys think you know it all im sorry you guys dont For the guys who do know what they are talking about well good for them .
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groover, your profile says "Service Manager"... wouldn't happen to be at a Mazda dealer would it?
If so, can you tell us the differences between the flashes?
If so, can you tell us the differences between the flashes?
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my wife called to book the rx-8 in for the ECU upgrade. the service guy at essendon mazda was quite rude to her asking if she knew if the upgrade was compatible with the rx-8. then told her that if there would be a cost to upgrade the ECU unless it was done at a regular servicing interval. it was at essendon mazda.
so where else in melbourne can rx-8 owners get the upgrade without having to get the car serviced as well?
not happy at all...
mike
so where else in melbourne can rx-8 owners get the upgrade without having to get the car serviced as well?
not happy at all...
mike
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Took my car in to get updated G upgrade , together with a note with all the symptons previously disscused {IN ABOVE THREADS .}
Service manager procedded to tell me that if he upgraded the ecu for free everytime a customer requested it hed go broke .
(obviously hasnt heard of the record profits made by mazda )
I procedded to tell him that if he was going to charge then forget about it and i would go to another dealer who would be more understanding , i told him i was not prepared to wait for another 10,000km before getting my ecu upgraded at my 30,000km service .
I also reminded him that my next car purchase may not be from his dealership .
Anyhow he gave in and Daniel re flashed my ecu and took my car for a test drive , hes a nice bloke who understands the rx8 enthusiast .
My impressions are that the G flash is a definite improvement (ZING ZING instead of a possible ZOOM )car is far more responsive idles better and seems to get there smoother .
Considering all the profit MAZDA has made youd think a valued customer would not have to put up a song and dance in order to get the latest reflash for his ride .
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MICHAEL
Service manager procedded to tell me that if he upgraded the ecu for free everytime a customer requested it hed go broke .
(obviously hasnt heard of the record profits made by mazda )
I procedded to tell him that if he was going to charge then forget about it and i would go to another dealer who would be more understanding , i told him i was not prepared to wait for another 10,000km before getting my ecu upgraded at my 30,000km service .
I also reminded him that my next car purchase may not be from his dealership .
Anyhow he gave in and Daniel re flashed my ecu and took my car for a test drive , hes a nice bloke who understands the rx8 enthusiast .
My impressions are that the G flash is a definite improvement (ZING ZING instead of a possible ZOOM )car is far more responsive idles better and seems to get there smoother .
Considering all the profit MAZDA has made youd think a valued customer would not have to put up a song and dance in order to get the latest reflash for his ride .
BE WISE
MICHAEL
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A bit more info regarding the "M" flash has surfaced on the TSB Link regarding engine knocking at high rpm or high altitude.
The "M" flash is the current flash (released Mid Apr 04) in the U.S. It was released at around the same time as the "G" flash here (Sco first "G" here on 8 May 04). It would not be drawing too long a bow to assume that the "G" flash would also have a positive effect with regards to preventing knocking.
Mazda have stated in the TSB that the knocking is a result of loss of compression due to a lack of oil being supplied from the oil metering pump. As this pump is controlled by the PCM, the lack of oil may be due to a defect in the "L" flash software (which we didn't have here).
Without wanting to seem too alarmist, if you have been hearing strange rattling/pinging/knocking sounds at above 6000rpm, it may be wise to book in for a reflash to "G".
That said, we have had no reports from Oz members about knocking.....but flooding was off the radar a few weeks back!
Our fuel is also better here, that helps to reduce the possibility of knocking. It would be real handy to find out from an official source what the "G" flash was designed to fix......
Anyway...forewarned is forearmed.
Gomez.
The "M" flash is the current flash (released Mid Apr 04) in the U.S. It was released at around the same time as the "G" flash here (Sco first "G" here on 8 May 04). It would not be drawing too long a bow to assume that the "G" flash would also have a positive effect with regards to preventing knocking.
Mazda have stated in the TSB that the knocking is a result of loss of compression due to a lack of oil being supplied from the oil metering pump. As this pump is controlled by the PCM, the lack of oil may be due to a defect in the "L" flash software (which we didn't have here).
Without wanting to seem too alarmist, if you have been hearing strange rattling/pinging/knocking sounds at above 6000rpm, it may be wise to book in for a reflash to "G".
That said, we have had no reports from Oz members about knocking.....but flooding was off the radar a few weeks back!
Our fuel is also better here, that helps to reduce the possibility of knocking. It would be real handy to find out from an official source what the "G" flash was designed to fix......
Anyway...forewarned is forearmed.
Gomez.
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I don't hear knocking what so ever. However, you really need a stethoscope for this hehe :D
I don't think I had the "G" the last time. I doubt that I need it as I seldom had a start >3 sec after ignition and no knocking what so ever.
I don't think I had the "G" the last time. I doubt that I need it as I seldom had a start >3 sec after ignition and no knocking what so ever.
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I know what knocking is ... it tends to do in Type R a lot over 6000rpm... I need to use BP Ultimate and additive to get rid of it. Optimax sucks in that way. Therefore, it is important for B18C in the Integra to get high Octane oil.
I never found this knocking in rotaries. Never heard it before and the engine work smooth as hell.
Motor mag said my Integra engine was smooth. Then RX-8 is silky smooth!!! :D
I never found this knocking in rotaries. Never heard it before and the engine work smooth as hell.
Motor mag said my Integra engine was smooth. Then RX-8 is silky smooth!!! :D
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Hi guys, I am a first time poster but have been following this forum for a while. I recently picked up my rx8 a few weeks ago and its a May 04. So far no problems and drives like a dream.
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