RX8 Programmer by Harrison R&D
02-20-2008, 03:21 PM
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RX8 Programmer by Harrison R&D
02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
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The APEX RX8 Programmer does not include tuning and mapping tools, nor do we have a "tuned" flash file at this time.
02-20-2008, 03:27 PM
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Sounds interesting - but like a hot falling knife, I wouldn't dream of touching it - I love my (working) car too much!
I know my own limits - Good luck to those who dare tread in there...
I know my own limits - Good luck to those who dare tread in there...
02-20-2008, 03:46 PM
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The tuning software is the most important part though. It could be tedious and painful, or easy to use. I've heard people talking about 900+ maps in the stock ECU, and different maps for different gears. It sounds like no trivial task to generate a usable flash unless you're modifying small parts of the map to add or remove fuel and keeping it otherwise stock.
02-20-2008, 04:11 PM
#10
I got this reply from Dan:
So it sounds like we can modify the maps using existing tools. But something custom written for the car would speed things up quite a bit.
The programmer can flash the RX8 computer with the latest Mazda flash, but
it can also allow a person who is getting into tuning to flash a modified
load in the RX8 computer with out causing a checksum error, without our
checksum fix a modified load would not run.
What you would do is download the ECU image and start finding MAPs with
something like WinOLS or Techtom's tune. So far I have only modified our
RPM Limit, my wife has an automatic which limits at 7500, I changed it to
8000 and everything worked just fine. The REV Limit warning still sounds at
7500 but it winds to an indicated 8200 (really 8000). The full product is
for the DIY tuners out there, the simple Flasher is for people who just want
to load a flash file and not make mods themselves. My hope is the DIY
community will make and share tunes, the combined brainpower of the RX8
community should be able to do a lot.
it can also allow a person who is getting into tuning to flash a modified
load in the RX8 computer with out causing a checksum error, without our
checksum fix a modified load would not run.
What you would do is download the ECU image and start finding MAPs with
something like WinOLS or Techtom's tune. So far I have only modified our
RPM Limit, my wife has an automatic which limits at 7500, I changed it to
8000 and everything worked just fine. The REV Limit warning still sounds at
7500 but it winds to an indicated 8200 (really 8000). The full product is
for the DIY tuners out there, the simple Flasher is for people who just want
to load a flash file and not make mods themselves. My hope is the DIY
community will make and share tunes, the combined brainpower of the RX8
community should be able to do a lot.
02-20-2008, 06:28 PM
#14
It's going to be released tomorrow. So I doubt anyone has one yet.
Also, this will be the first publicly available reflasher for our car, the only one we can buy, and at a price tag less than half of what we already know some others will sell at.
So Dan has done a great job at compelling us to consider his product.
Also, this will be the first publicly available reflasher for our car, the only one we can buy, and at a price tag less than half of what we already know some others will sell at.
So Dan has done a great job at compelling us to consider his product.
02-20-2008, 07:05 PM
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Did I here correctly? Someone is going to ship a tool that allow you to take a RacingBeat flash from one car and put it on another?
02-20-2008, 07:09 PM
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Assuming you have more than one reflasher, you can download the rb flash and put it on another car, but given the low volume of sales the rx-8 market likely generates, I would rather see you pay the price for the flash if you plan on using it. Otherwise there's not going to be incentive to develop anything for the 8.
02-20-2008, 07:35 PM
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Just to let you guys know, we have emailed RB twice with an offer to protect their tune from being copied by our tool, at $0.00 cost to them, but no one ever responded to our emails. As stated on the RX8 Programmer web page, protecting others pro tunes is a concern to us, and if at all possible, we will work with other tuners to protect their work.
Dan
Dan
02-20-2008, 08:39 PM
#23
Finally Boosted!!!!!!!
Dan - what can be modified by your "RX8 Programmer"? Can all the Fuel and timing tables be modified? Can open/closed loop and fan temps be adjusted? What all have you unlocked for the DIY tuner to change?
02-20-2008, 09:00 PM
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So let me get this sraight. As the product is shipped, you can download a tune, weither it is a stock tune or a RB tune, and then modify it and upload that tune back onto the ecu. I think the best place for this would be for people who track the car. You could have your street set up and then when you put 100 octane fuel in at the track, reflash it to pick up the extra power. I think if you are just going to drive on the street, save your money and get the RB flash because you would have to get the RB flash file from soemone else, meaning they need the programmer, and the upload it to your ecu, meaning you need the programmer.
This might also open up the manufactors of FI kits to reflashing the ecu like pettit instead of buying an external computor. They creat the tune, send out the file on a disk and you can flash your own ECU. if the tune needs to be tweaked or you want a race tune and a street tune you could save the files and download what you need, when you need it.
This could be a good product but for someone like me that has no idea how to tune a car, it could be dangerous.
This might also open up the manufactors of FI kits to reflashing the ecu like pettit instead of buying an external computor. They creat the tune, send out the file on a disk and you can flash your own ECU. if the tune needs to be tweaked or you want a race tune and a street tune you could save the files and download what you need, when you need it.
This could be a good product but for someone like me that has no idea how to tune a car, it could be dangerous.
02-20-2008, 10:01 PM
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