RX8 Programmer by Harrison R&D
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The APEX RX8 Programmer does not include tuning and mapping tools, nor do we have a "tuned" flash file at this time. |
Sounds interesting - but like a hot falling knife, I wouldn't dream of touching it - I love my (working) car too much!
I know my own limits - Good luck to those who dare tread in there... |
At this stage it seems pretty useless
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I've emailed Dan and asked for details.
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I'm sure there are a select few on this forum who would love to mess around with this....
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Its not useless because it keeps people who are out of warranty from having to go to the dealer to get the most current flash.
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The price is most definitely right and the possibilities are almost endless.
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The tuning software is the most important part though. It could be tedious and painful, or easy to use. I've heard people talking about 900+ maps in the stock ECU, and different maps for different gears. It sounds like no trivial task to generate a usable flash unless you're modifying small parts of the map to add or remove fuel and keeping it otherwise stock.
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I got this reply from Dan:
The programmer can flash the RX8 computer with the latest Mazda flash, but it can also allow a person who is getting into tuning to flash a modified load in the RX8 computer with out causing a checksum error, without our checksum fix a modified load would not run. What you would do is download the ECU image and start finding MAPs with something like WinOLS or Techtom's tune. So far I have only modified our RPM Limit, my wife has an automatic which limits at 7500, I changed it to 8000 and everything worked just fine. The REV Limit warning still sounds at 7500 but it winds to an indicated 8200 (really 8000). The full product is for the DIY tuners out there, the simple Flasher is for people who just want to load a flash file and not make mods themselves. My hope is the DIY community will make and share tunes, the combined brainpower of the RX8 community should be able to do a lot. |
Stuff like this gets me excited. I just checked out WinOLS and it has a "Map finder" feature, so maybe it won't be too bad.
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Hmmm that seems good so far but I would like to see alot more tests until I give money towards the product.
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did anyone order this yet to test it??
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It's going to be released tomorrow. So I doubt anyone has one yet.
Also, this will be the first publicly available reflasher for our car, the only one we can buy, and at a price tag less than half of what we already know some others will sell at. So Dan has done a great job at compelling us to consider his product. |
Most important thing is , where can we download the latest flash.
and I have RB flash, can I use this program to save it to disk ? seems like its possible. |
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2307807)
Most important thing is , where can we download the latest flash.
and I have RB flash, can I use this program to save it to disk ? seems like its possible. |
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2307848)
Did I here correctly? Someone is going to ship a tool that allow you to take a RacingBeat flash from one car and put it on another?
Assuming you have more than one reflasher, you can download the rb flash and put it on another car, but given the low volume of sales the rx-8 market likely generates, I would rather see you pay the price for the flash if you plan on using it. Otherwise there's not going to be incentive to develop anything for the 8. |
yes,
this a great tool if you know how to modify all 900 tables.. it is missing the software to tune the car.. beers :beer: |
Just to let you guys know, we have emailed RB twice with an offer to protect their tune from being copied by our tool, at $0.00 cost to them, but no one ever responded to our emails. As stated on the RX8 Programmer web page, protecting others pro tunes is a concern to us, and if at all possible, we will work with other tuners to protect their work.
Dan |
dan,
i would like to understand this.. as i read the page. you have no software tuning tools to offer?? just the ability to flash. beers :beer: |
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Originally Posted by Kane
(Post 2307966)
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Dan - what can be modified by your "RX8 Programmer"? Can all the Fuel and timing tables be modified? Can open/closed loop and fan temps be adjusted? What all have you unlocked for the DIY tuner to change?
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So let me get this sraight. As the product is shipped, you can download a tune, weither it is a stock tune or a RB tune, and then modify it and upload that tune back onto the ecu. I think the best place for this would be for people who track the car. You could have your street set up and then when you put 100 octane fuel in at the track, reflash it to pick up the extra power. I think if you are just going to drive on the street, save your money and get the RB flash because you would have to get the RB flash file from soemone else, meaning they need the programmer, and the upload it to your ecu, meaning you need the programmer.
This might also open up the manufactors of FI kits to reflashing the ecu like pettit instead of buying an external computor. They creat the tune, send out the file on a disk and you can flash your own ECU. if the tune needs to be tweaked or you want a race tune and a street tune you could save the files and download what you need, when you need it. This could be a good product but for someone like me that has no idea how to tune a car, it could be dangerous. |
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2308203)
With all due respect, Higway, we are way past that point already.
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