:mad: Help...I did a search but no luck.

My sun roof rattles when open and quits if I close the sun roof a few inches. I read some place that someones rattles got worse after asking Mazda to fix it.

Question; Has anyone found a fix for this problem?

Thanks :confused:

mine does too - noticed more that I have been using it since it is hot out now.

i only really notice it when it is open fully...when it is only open to 'tilt' i don't hear it at much, if at all.

it seems lieke many many people have this problem...maybe eventually Mazda will make it a TSB.

I brought mine it to the dealership last week about this problem. They took it for a drive, and agreed that there was indeed a rattle and said it'd take a couple weeks to order "parts".

I'm not sure what "parts" they need but hopefully that fixes it!

I had the sunroof closed on the highway going a little fast and found one rattle was the dome light. Probably try a little foam tape.

I found the pop-up wind deflector rattles at times. Hold it down while you're driving & see if it goes away.

Mine does this too.

mine does it too....it's definitely not the dome light though....

Yeah mine rattles when the sunroof is fully open. The rattle is coming from the passenger side of the track. If you press your finger against it, it goes away, but it's probably not to safe to drive with your finger held against it.

My sunroof started rattling last summer...while I was waiting 3 months for a replacement A/C amplifier. Like many others if I put a finger or two on the passenger side black rail it would go away (or lessen). Eventually after trying many other things I ended up just lubricating the four pieces holding the glass to the rails with WD-40. Haven't heard a peep out of the sunroof since.

I had this problem and had the dealer fix it - same day service. I told them it problably needed lubbing. There is like a nylon bushing or wheel that the sunroof "slides on" mine was kind of grabbing. Anyway, it probly needs lubbing. I looked at the autoparts store for the kind of lube I say in the rail. Its trasparent and gel like. I could not find a match and I didn't think to as the dealer what they used. I figure the back and forth action takes its tole and eventually rubs away the lube - thus rattle.

Happened on my VW GTi too, I fix was the same.

Man I wish someone could post a DIY on lubing the sunroof...I'm having a hard time visualizing where to lube.

Man I wish someone could post a DIY on lubing the sunroof...I'm having a hard time visualizing where to lube.



reference your camping pics!!! :D

That's funny...after I wrote that I thought to myself "how long until rotten pops his head in and makes fun of me?".

13 minutes...not too bad! ;) :p

3 pictures. "1" is a larger one for reference. "2" is the front roller. I used WD-40 on the white roller. "3" is the rear roller. You can only see the black piece that attaches to the slider from this angle.

You can also probably tell from the marks on the nut that I removed the glass from the sunroof in order to inspect it, and I'd venture to say it will be alot easier to lubricate the rollers with WD-40 or some other kind of grease with the glass off anyhow.

If you press your finger against it, it goes away, but it's probably not to safe to drive with your finger held against it.


haha - yeah, i'd say! :D

Man I wish someone could post a DIY on lubing the sunroof...I'm having a hard time visualizing where to lube.

LOL, I can take pics if you want of where they lubed mine!!! They just used white lithium based spray grease and my rattles all went away. Nasty stuff, I would have prefered that they use a clear lubricant. I'm sure they also retightened something as a rattle that annoying, wouldn't be a quick lube job.

I too only had rattles in full open position and never had the rattle if it was just on tilt (or anywhere in between).

Wank

Mine Rattles too and for me it is clearly the Rear Dome fixture... I drove around my hood "YO!" for 15 minutes today Holding, Feeling & Caressing all those Taboo parts, at varying speeds and over different patches of road. My tracks, rails, lip and bolts did not seems to make a difference while holding them... but applying just a little upward pressure to the rear dome shushed the rattle away!

3 pictures

I'm glad to see I am not the only one who is anal about cleaning the paint inside the sunroof track. :)

Thanks for the advice guys. I am going to grease it myself because I have already taken her to the dealer. They said they "fixed" it, but to no avail.

I also had an annoying full open sun roof rattle. After reading this thread I skeptically tried a little silicone lubricant on the tracks and rollers and it worked. No more rattle. Thanks

The samething happen to me. I just took in my car two days ago, they fix the problem. The rattle was really bad, I would hear it just backing up slowly.

LOL, I can take pics if you want of where they lubed mine!!! They just used white lithium based spray grease and my rattles all went away. Nasty stuff, I would have prefered that they use a clear lubricant. I'm sure they also retightened something as a rattle that annoying, wouldn't be a quick lube job.

I too only had rattles in full open position and never had the rattle if it was just on tilt (or anywhere in between).

Wank
Can you post pics of where you put the lube? It's getting on my nerves and I need to fix it!

no rattles on mine yet.

Yeah mine rattles when the sunroof is fully open. The rattle is coming from the passenger side of the track. If you press your finger against it, it goes away, but it's probably not to safe to drive with your finger held against it.

I have the EXACT same rattle, goes away if you close the sunroof slightly.

I had this problem and had the dealer fix it - same day service. I told them it problably needed lubbing. There is like a nylon bushing or wheel that the sunroof "slides on" mine was kind of grabbing. Anyway, it probly needs lubbing. I looked at the autoparts store for the kind of lube I say in the rail. Its trasparent and gel like. I could not find a match and I didn't think to as the dealer what they used. I figure the back and forth action takes its tole and eventually rubs away the lube - thus rattle.

Happened on my VW GTi too, I fix was the same.

I just wanted to say thanks for mentioning this fix. I used good old WD40 on my sunroof yesterday and the rattle is now gone. Sweet!

Now, if it'd only stop raining long enough for me to drive around with the roof open ...
:)

Oak Tree Mazda (San Jose, CA) did a great job fixing my sunroof rattle, although they had my car for like 3 hours. Description of what they did:

"I confirmed customers complaint and I drove with another Tech to find the rattle I then tryed (sic) to reset the motor to the stops after I road tested noise still there I removed the glass and checked the linkage and lubed everything looks good so I reinstalled the glass and adjusted and reprogrammed the moter (sic) went on a test drive no more noise..."

Sounds like basically exactly what you guys are saying to do in this thread for roof rattles.

Oak Tree Mazda (San Jose, CA) did a great job fixing my sunroof rattle, although they had my car for like 3 hours. Description of what they did:

"I confirmed customers complaint and I drove with another Tech to find the rattle I then tryed (sic) to reset the motor to the stops after I road tested noise still there I removed the glass and checked the linkage and lubed everything looks good so I reinstalled the glass and adjusted and reprogrammed the moter (sic) went on a test drive no more noise..."

Sounds like basically exactly what you guys are saying to do in this thread for roof rattles.What? People have talked about lubing the track, not removing the glass, checking the linkage and reprogramming the motor. What are you smoking? :confused:

I didn't have to remove anything. I just opened the sunroof, and used the straw that comes with the WD40 bottle to target the four areas mentioned in this thread. Took me two minutes.

I hope they didn't bill you for all that labor!

My sunroof started rattling last summer...while I was waiting 3 months for a replacement A/C amplifier. Like many others if I put a finger or two on the passenger side black rail it would go away (or lessen). Eventually after trying many other things I ended up just lubricating the four pieces holding the glass to the rails with WD-40. Haven't heard a peep out of the sunroof since.
Had the same annoying rattle-followed your advice-rattle gonne. Long live WD-40!!

Had the same annoying rattle-followed your advice-rattle gonne. Long live WD-40!!

Same here! It'd been rattling badly for months now, so I did the fix yesterday. And today it's perfectly silent. Thanks everyone!

Cool! I can hear my brake squeal again!

Its trasparent and gel like. I could not find a match and I didn't think to as the dealer what they used. I figure the back and forth action takes its tole and eventually rubs away the lube - thus rattle.



can't resist... it's ky

Seriously, the problem with using wd40 for these applications is that it doesn't usually last too long. My standard lube for this type of work is a silicone "candle". Don't remember where I bought it but it lasts forever. Just rub it on. In a pinch, even a regular candle can help.

Has anybody had their sun roof rattle when it's closed but the cover is open? My sun roof only seems to rattle when it's closed and the cover is opend. if you close the cover and/or open the roof at any position it goes aways. I have also noticed that when I push on the dome light the rattle goes aways. any comments on a type of fix ? thanks

I have the same issue, just can't figure out what is causing it.

Mine Rattles too and for me it is clearly the Rear Dome fixture... I drove around my hood "YO!" for 15 minutes today Holding, Feeling & Caressing all those Taboo parts, at varying speeds and over different patches of road. My tracks, rails, lip and bolts did not seems to make a difference while holding them... but applying just a little upward pressure to the rear dome shushed the rattle away!


I seemed to be having that same problem.. I was drive on the interstate yesterday and my sun roof started rattling (it was closed), so I was feeling around but the only thing that made it stop was when I pushed on the rear dome fixture. Did you end up fixing it? if so what did you due?

As I far as I have read it's a loose wire near the dome light.

Take the rear dome light out and use duct tape to secure it to the roof.

It seems like every car's sunroof got rattling problems. Even my dad's E46 M3. You'd think that after years of developing sunroofs, they'd get it right!

Dealers have a technical service bulletin on sunroof rattle. Mazda's fix is to replace glides and attached pieces.
Rosenthal Mazda site has all the technical service bulletins for all mazdas.

Dealers have a technical service bulletin on sunroof rattle. Mazda's fix is to replace glides and attached pieces.
Rosenthal Mazda site has all the technical service bulletins for all mazdas.

Yup, I just had this TSB done last week. No more noises from the sunroof.

I am now experiencing a "clink" like sound, kinda like the rolling wheels are moving around in the guide rail. This only seems to happen when the sunroof is "tilted" and when I'm turning or braking hard over rough surfaces. Will this TSB fix this problem?

FS

Dealers have a technical service bulletin on sunroof rattle. Mazda's fix is to replace glides and attached pieces.
Rosenthal Mazda site has all the technical service bulletins for all mazdas.

yeah i keep forgetting to take my car in for this but they require to keep the car for a day and a half to to the work. pretty soon they are goign to return the parts back since they had to order them.

Anyone with advice for this problem:
I am now experiencing a "clink" like sound, kinda like the rolling wheels are moving around in the guide rail. This only seems to happen when the sunroof is "tilted" and when I'm turning or braking hard over rough surfaces. Will this TSB fix this problem?

There's a TSB for noise coming from the sun roof. Apparently it has something to do with one of the pins wearing down or something. The TSB says to replace the rail. I have a little bit of noise when the roof when it's first opened, then it goes away. I'll probably have it checked out in the next couple months before the warranty expires.

I just took mine this weekend for the sun roof rattle and my sun visor. After looking at me like some idiot I gave them the TBS for both problems. He said he did'nt know about the TBS on those issues. He looked thru the part that would be needed and order them. Said to give him a week . So hopefully I'll have both thing taken care off , by this weekend.

I'll let you guys know.

Also, please let us know if they mar the headliner when they do it.

I'd like to get the TSB performed on mine except I'm afraid they'll tear, crease or get grease all over the headliner.

I complained about the rattle when I went in for an oil change and expected them to simply grease it up for me. That would work on cars I have had in the past. They replaced some pin (I guess the ones mentioned above) and the motor (they said that it was not working properly). That was nice as it fixed a stutter that would sometimes happen when I opened the sunroof. I just figured that it was due to it needing lube. But, that is why I am not a mechanic. Everything was covered by warranty.

Also, please let us know if they mar the headliner when they do it.

I'd like to get the TSB performed on mine except I'm afraid they'll tear, crease or get grease all over the headliner.

Oh... when they replaced the motor in my sunroof there was no grease or anything. They did run the screws in too far and put two nipples in my roof. They had to get the dent guy to fix them. I was not as upset as you think I would due to the fact I always got great service from them in the past. If they were not able to fix it, there might have been a different story.

I had the sun roof rattle TSB done late last year. It took the dealer over 2 weeks to get it done. They had first tried to lube the tracks but this did nothing. They then ordered the track replacement but said they got the wrong parts. When they finally managed to get the proper parts, they said that the TSB instructions were "oversimplified" and it would take a good amount of work to replace the tracks. They basically had to take the entire roof headliner apart before they could even get to the sunroof assembly. They managed to leave greasy hand prints all over the headliner and some of the A pillar covers don't seem to fit together right anymore. However they did manage to fix the sunroof rattle though.

Also, please let us know if they mar the headliner when they do it.

I'd like to get the TSB performed on mine except I'm afraid they'll tear, crease or get grease all over the headliner.

^ agreed

That's the main reason why i'm still holding out. I've heard too many bad jobs being performed when replacing the rails.

Its getting VERY annoying lately tho, so I'm thinkin i'll be having this done soon. :rant:

mine does that too...but i guess i can live with it!

If they dirty it, thats fine , as long as they clean it. I would hope they would have clean hands. { I think they are smart techs } If for some reason it ain't clean, well I'm not going anywhere. Till matter taken care of.

Here is the link to the TSB: http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/pdf/09-029-06-1651.pdf

Well yesturday I got my call. The parts are here , The visors and the part for the sun roof. It didn't take that long. Today I spoke to them and I'll take it next Tuesday and leave it there for the day. He said he would give me a loaner from the lot till Wednesday at no charge.

I'll let you guy know by Wednesday............ see yaa

My experience with it "fixed" was not positive. The roof still rattles and now my headliner has some marks. In fact I swear even my door rattles now. I've cleaned up the marks since I rather trust myself then those lackeys. Will not be bringing it back for a re-fix. <sigh> I regretted bringing it in.

Delhi - There is comfort in the fact that you aren't alone - Join the club

Does your sunroof rattle? (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=13271)

Specifically - My Last Post #75 (http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1879936&postcount=75)

As they say YMMV.

Beware of the dealer.

*bites nails*

this isn't helping my decision... :rolleyes:

everytime I've decided to leave it or go forward with it, I run into this thread.

grr.

Okay, like I mention before I took my car in on Tuesday at 2;00 pm and got it back on Wednesday 3;00 pm . No more rattles on the sun roof and got my new visor. I got a loaner from them during that time too.

They put in a new rail for the sun roof with new bolts. The headliner was cleaned and well put together. I wish they would had put the pasenger side visor to , but o well. If that one goes down I'll just take it in.

All in all I was happy with the service and treatment , can't bicth at all. Remember just take in your service bulletin and you should'nt have no problems.

OK, finally at my wit's end. Went in and ordered the parts today. They'll call when i'm ready to go in for it. Apparently the Mazda tech that works on Mazda's was there and claimed that he'd did one already. Not sure if that's a good thing or not...

Also, I went in for the brakes TSB due to crazy squeeks from the brakes in the last 1000 miles...and they said it's a no go due to being at 13K miles. Claimed it was a 12K miles/12 month warranty only on the brakes. WTF.

Keep us updated , hopefully everthing will work out.

In regards to the brake that sound like a lot of B.S. I could take mine in for that cause my brakes squeak here and there but I plan on changing them this coming weekkend. I already got some ceramic from hawk, that should work.

mine does it to, if you push up on the ceiling of the car, it'll stop rattling, thats not really a solution, just an observation.

I noticed a rattle in mine but the thing is its only when i start out when the engine goes from idle at around 750 the rattle starts at about 1000 and leaves before 1500 but its bad i felt around and noticed the roof outside just infront of the sunroof was raddling really bad so i took out the map light assembly and still a rattle.

Any ideas?

Here is the link to the TSB: http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/pdf/09-029-06-1651.pdf

Link that works: http://www.finishlineperformance.com/pdf/rx8/bulletin/09-029-06-1651.pdf

Search "Rattle hunt" and add all this info to that thread. There is quite a lot of different bits of info and cures in that other thread. I'll link it below in a second.


Here it is:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=79235

mine rattles also.but it is the wind deflector that rattles. i jus turn my radio up a little bit...that usually works.

i had mine "fixed" also, i would highly recommend AGAINST getting this recall done, it took them 2 times to fix and my nearest dealership was 30 miles away, the day i got it back, it was raining and it was leaking water, im happy to say that ill never go to that mazda dealer anymore

I had no problem at all, and it took them a matter of hours to do it. Only thing i did noticed was some slight discoloration around the lining which was likely dirtied in the process, and they tried to clean it later.

However, the roof no longer rattles and no sign of leakage at all. As long as you have a reputable dealership, i'd recommend this to anyone with the imfamous sunroof shake :)

^ Agreed. Mazda redesigned the part causing the problem, so why not have it? If you happen to be within an hour or so of a Mazda dealer with a good service department, it's worth it.

I asked about it and they ended up just greasing the tracks. Seems to work fine now.

worked for me also, for the first few months. If the same cams are in the roof that were stock, it's only a matter of time. :banghead:

I'll mention a rattle I found and fixed just forward of the sunroof opening near the sunglass holder. The motor driving the sunroof is very close to the roof itself. Tapping or vibration was causing it to rattle against the roof. I slipped in a piece of .060" soundproofing material to prevent metal-to-metal contact and it's fixed. No need to secure it really as it's a tight fit.