View Full Version : Ideas for possible Club Emblem/Badge!!!
RA-Eight 06-04-2005, 01:21 AM Started from another thread: "Calling All Efini Emblem'ed 8's (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=904110&posted=1#post904110)"
As I was reading this post I was thinking.....damn, we should make our own club emblem, and then I came to the part where you all were talking about doing just that. I have seen enough talented folks designing things in this club that surely there is someone out there with the skill set and design capability who could make a few bucks by designing, fabing and selling such an emblem. With that said, maybe we could have a couple submission ideals, vote as a club, and then do a group buy based on the winning design.
What do you guys/gals think?
Shocka 06-04-2005, 01:33 AM im not much of an artist but my idea would be to incorporate an 8 into the rotary emblem
here we go... hopefulyl someone with more skills then me can improve it..
theCATALYST 06-04-2005, 01:41 AM im not much of an artist but my idea would be to incorporate an 8 into the rotary emblem
here we go... hopefulyl someone with more skills then me can improve it..
I like...need to redraw on a computer program, I think it would look good. We need to get a list of these in different designs, and then have the club vote.
Shocka 06-04-2005, 01:43 AM another.. again my photoshop freehand skills stink.. this idea looks ALOT better on paper.. maybe ill scan it
EDIT: just added the scan
Frostee 06-04-2005, 02:56 AM something close to this? (colors and stuff can be changed) :)
Zephyr 06-04-2005, 04:11 AM something close to this? (colors and stuff can be changed) :)
i vote for the first one, and the 8 symbol in the middle could be changed to the lettering of the 8 located at the boot of the car?
vinix 06-04-2005, 01:02 PM me like!!!!! :D
army_rx8 06-04-2005, 01:04 PM cool the first ones are looking promising...come on all you artist/ graphic designers out there...get on your horse and have at it :D
8 is enough 06-04-2005, 02:32 PM maybe you could make an 8 using two rotors on larger one on the bottom pointing up, and then another one smaller pointing down?
army_rx8 06-04-2005, 02:38 PM ^ oo i'd liek to see that sounds liek it could be pretty cool
8 is enough 06-04-2005, 03:52 PM yeah i have no skills what so ever in photoshop paint or what ever. So someone will need to do this
BigOLundh 06-04-2005, 07:12 PM are there any emblems of just the rotary design?
Raz0rama 06-04-2005, 10:25 PM How's this look to you all?
VelociRedBeast 06-04-2005, 10:57 PM How's this look to you all?
..... your awsome..
youngpit 06-05-2005, 01:41 AM Raz0rama: maybe you should tlk to pollock and he can get them made up that is awsome
English 06-05-2005, 08:43 AM Nice...Where are you gonna put that?
shinka213 06-05-2005, 08:57 AM How's this look to you all?
I love it!!!!!
RA-Eight 06-06-2005, 09:40 AM Now that designs are starting to come in, does anyone have access to a vendor that would be able produce these things?
chrism 06-06-2005, 09:44 AM i would definately be in for 2 to replace the flying m
RX8MAN04 06-06-2005, 10:16 AM cool idea, if someone comes up with a good cad print i can cnc machine it in my shop. i have done a couple of projects washer fluid cap oil and brake and radiator .
LucasET 06-06-2005, 03:51 PM I think razorama's pic is really close. Replacing the 2 floating Ms would be awesome.
LucasET 06-06-2005, 03:53 PM Where in Iowa are you RX8MAN04?
RA-Eight 06-06-2005, 09:17 PM I know we have more artists on the board than this! Keep them coming! (don't get me wrong the ones submitted are great, just need a selection to choose from)
RX8 Pusher 06-07-2005, 07:35 AM RazOrama,
I think your design is close to what I had in mind from the get go, and it appears that others like it. From a design standpoint, I think that there needs to be some space at the bottom to balance the space at the top.
Like RA-Eight said, come on guys/gals lets see some more ideals. Quite frankly I thought that more people would jump in on this........
Raz, can you touch up the design for a comparison view...I may be off the mark with the additional space, but..... :D
chrism 06-07-2005, 10:19 AM cool idea, if someone comes up with a good cad print i can cnc machine it in my shop. i have done a couple of projects washer fluid cap oil and brake and radiator .
i have actually bought some stuff from you on ebay recently.....the rotary valve caps...the quality is pretty damn good ;)
GotZoom 06-07-2005, 10:22 AM How's this look to you all?
I like.
I would like to suggest a decal (on the smaller/smallish side) also.
I don't want a big decal (and never a bumper sticker) on my car. I can see putting something on the bottom edge of my back window, etc.
As for changing the "flying M", I'm not against that, but would still like the option of a small decal too.
RX8MAN04 06-07-2005, 10:57 AM big city of des moines! lol
slllygrl10 06-07-2005, 01:32 PM How's this look to you all?
Oh oh oh I like!
Raz0rama 06-07-2005, 02:40 PM How's this look? I thought it might be nice to rotate the 8 inside the triangle. I have both versions updated now with vector based and 3D versions.
GotZoom 06-07-2005, 02:44 PM How's this look? I thought it might be nice to rotate the 8 inside the triangle. I have both versions updated now with vector based and 3D versions.
Excellent!
Raz0rama 06-07-2005, 02:54 PM cool idea, if someone comes up with a good cad print i can cnc machine it in my shop. i have done a couple of projects washer fluid cap oil and brake and radiator .
AutoCad? I have a DXF version of that last one. if you want I can email it to you.
RX8MAN04 06-07-2005, 04:17 PM wow ! that looks nice. yeah dfx file is good e.mail it to me
rx8man03@yahoo.com see what i can do
chuck
Shocka 06-07-2005, 04:51 PM i like it alot but the question i have does that cover the posts/holes thats are behind the flying m?
RA-Eight 06-07-2005, 05:32 PM i like it alot but the question i have does that cover the posts/holes thats are behind the flying m?
That's a very good point. I'm glad you brought it up. Does anyone have images of the post behind emblems?
Raz-That looks hot, I didn't even see that you changed it. Can you add rivets to each corner? (similar to the rotor seat headrest in your avatar) Just curious to see what that would look like in comparison.
Cheers!
Ra
RX8 Pusher 06-07-2005, 06:14 PM Raz,
The rotation did it for me. As far as the post holes, does anyone who has debadged their car still have the flying M that they can accurately measure the spacing/size, etc...if you are asking how to accurately measure....hu, let someone else figure it out as this will need to be exact.
As far as the post that asked for a small size emblem.....I have a feeling that P will end up making a few examples on a variety of materials, including shirts.
Ra- I am with you, I would like to see one with the rivets....just as a design submission.
Raz, thanks again for running with the ideal it is looking excellent!
P.S. Can you e-mail me the files that you are offering to RX8Pusher@cox.net? Thanks
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 06-07-2005, 10:20 PM How's this look? I thought it might be nice to rotate the 8 inside the triangle. I have both versions updated now with vector based and 3D versions.VERY NICE! Who's going manufacture these for us?
StealthFox 06-07-2005, 11:49 PM guys, show your brand name allegiance and don't replace it!
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 06-08-2005, 12:19 AM guys, show your brand name allegiance and don't replace it!What... No modifications?
I have often contemplated exchanging my "Flying M" with a http://members.cox.net/aedson/rx8club/BlueOval.gif and http://members.cox.net/aedson/rx8club/cobra.jpg emblems...
Ya know, just for laughs... People keep confusing our 8 for other brands anyways!?!
Blue87Sport 06-08-2005, 12:41 AM Razorama, can you post the DXF file as an attachment? I think a number of us would find it useful and it would save you from having to email it to everyone. Thanks.
devious12 06-08-2005, 08:48 AM Nice job with the idea Shocka and nice work with making it a complete RazOrama, I'm in the market for new emblems so I'm definately interested. My emblemhouse.com emblems are junk the front one almost totally chipped off all of the paint, and they won't answer my emails!
Can't wait to see them finished. If you want I can take a pic of my stock bumper that I have in the garage, the emblem was taken off of it and you can see where the holes are. I can take exact measurements when they are needed...let me know.
therm8 06-08-2005, 08:55 AM I'll take 2 when they're done :D
chrism 06-08-2005, 08:58 AM like i said i am so in on this....arent the front and back different sizes though?.....either way ill take one of each...and my brand name allegiance will still be there with the word mazda in the back
RA-Eight 06-08-2005, 09:15 AM Nice job with the idea Shocka and nice work with making it a complete RazOrama, I'm in the market for new emblems so I'm definately interested. My emblemhouse.com emblems are junk the front one almost totally chipped off all of the paint, and they won't answer my emails!
Can't wait to see them finished. If you want I can take a pic of my stock bumper that I have in the garage, the emblem was taken off of it and you can see where the holes are. I can take exact measurements when they are needed...let me know.
Devious,
Can you supply the pics? Also, precise measurements of where the post are will also be needed. We need to know if the new emblem will cover up the holes.
Thanks in advance,
Ra
Raz0rama 06-08-2005, 09:33 AM Front and back are different, different holes and all, and they're also curved to fit the body. I'd like to get measurements so I could warp the new emblem to at least approach the curves of the 8 for a more snug fit.
Here's the zipped dxf. I checked it and the model has no holes - there are a couple of poly's with more than 4 sides - hopefully that won't be an issue with Cad softs.
Maybe later today I'll have time to add some rivets to the corners... no promises though, its game night and they have me on game day graphics crunch here. Go Phantoms!!! Welcome back to ... Purple Reign ;-)
army_rx8 06-08-2005, 10:37 AM wow that looks pretty damn sweet......i'm in if they are made...please say they are being made:D
IZoomZoomI 06-08-2005, 01:27 PM dam that looks real good, when great minds come toghether... ;)
devious12 06-08-2005, 10:44 PM Ok here is a pic of the holes the measurments are from the center of each hole to the center of each opossing hole. The two top holes are 3.5 inches apart and the right hole is .75 inches from the bottom hole:
NgoRX8 06-08-2005, 10:52 PM Great job devious, can't wait to see what's next.
I'm in if all goes to production.
devious12 06-08-2005, 10:55 PM Yeah I just showed my sister that 3D alteration of Shocka design and she always makes fun of all the car stuff and the RX8club stuff, she said it was hot so that's good. I love the design what else do we need to do to get this thing made I'm willing to help just let me know.
SAFD1450 06-08-2005, 11:03 PM This is very good like the work guys!
shinka213 06-08-2005, 11:37 PM How's this look? I thought it might be nice to rotate the 8 inside the triangle. I have both versions updated now with vector based and 3D versions.
thats the one I like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it looks fantastic!!!! Im hooked... (I like the "8" straight up and down) :D
vinix 06-09-2005, 11:03 AM i want!!!!!! i want!!!!! i want!!!!! let me know i'm in on this... Raz0rama that design is sweet...very nice
Raz0rama 06-09-2005, 01:17 PM Shinka213 have I seen you around? I saw what looked like a black rx8 on 95 south - below the airport. Coulda been a shinka though, its hard to see for sure when the sun's in your eyes at 6 in the afternoon.
Spyder_doo 06-09-2005, 01:40 PM I hope someone plans on making these emblems so I'm just getting my hopes up. They look sweet.
devious12 06-09-2005, 03:29 PM So who can we pictch the idea to? Anyone know of any shops that could machine this design?
RA-Eight 06-09-2005, 03:45 PM Rick at the S2000 forum, made the "S" emblems for their cars. And it is very popular among that circle. www.ricks2k.com (http://www.ricks2k.com) is his commercial site, and me makes other custom accessories for the S. I noticed that he's starting to venture out to other models, but all Honda family. I'm wondering if he'd be willing to do something like this.
RX8MAN04- What's the update on getting these cnc machined? Is this idea still feesible?
cool idea, if someone comes up with a good cad print i can cnc machine it in my shop. i have done a couple of projects washer fluid cap oil and brake and radiator .
Shocka 06-09-2005, 04:59 PM wow this thread is really coming around.. unfrotunatly i cant open the dxf.. can some one render it into a gif for me.. so i can take a peek please. if you guys find any places in ny that can do it i will be more then happy to trek over and try to get things rolling.
RX8MAN04 06-09-2005, 05:09 PM oh yeah! i trying to finish all my other 8 projects that are killing me tell i get them finished.
redjetpack 06-09-2005, 06:52 PM put me down for one if anyone's making them.
i want one, screw the brand alliegence (sp?) i want to debadge anything that says rx8 or mazda, it confuses the cops when they pull you over.
RA-Eight 06-09-2005, 07:05 PM For all of you who are too lazy to read through the whole thread :p , or seem to have lost which page it was originally on, here's the design that Raz came up with:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52135
Next step is pitching this to someone who can produce these kinds of stuff.
I mentioned Ricks, and RX8MAN04 may also be able to do this. Does anyone else have any ideas/suggestions? Ah...beautiful isn't it? Raz, you're awesome!
shinka213 06-09-2005, 10:26 PM it could have been me......I travel alot on 95 but mostly in Delaware County and points south....I work in Delaware.....where abouts on 95 was it? date? etc..
-P
PS...your design is awesome.....how did you craft it? via computer or free hand?
PSS...I hope we can find someone that can machine it
RA-Eight 06-09-2005, 10:46 PM Ok, I sent an email to Rick's, hopefully I'll hear back soon.
Does anyone know if the Miata or RX-7 clubs did anything similar?
Raz0rama 06-09-2005, 11:15 PM it could have been me......I travel alot on 95 but mostly in Delaware County and points south....I work in Delaware.....where abouts on 95 was it? date? etc..
-P
PS...your design is awesome.....how did you craft it? via computer or free hand?
PSS...I hope we can find someone that can machine it
it was like the second exit after the airport, I was on 95 south, about a week ago I think - i forget which day, around 6-6:30 pm. I saw the 8 going northbound.
I have a sunlight silver if you saw me.
The design was done using Illustrator to craft a vector based version, then extruded and rendered in 3D max.
shinka213 06-10-2005, 12:01 AM it was like the second exit after the airport, I was on 95 south, about a week ago I think - i forget which day, around 6-6:30 pm. I saw the 8 going northbound.
I have a sunlight silver if you saw me.
The design was done using Illustrator to craft a vector based version, then extruded and rendered in 3D max.
darn, that sounds complicated.....can you give me that in layman's terms?
what area of the burbs do you live in?
Raz0rama 06-10-2005, 10:14 AM darn, that sounds complicated.....can you give me that in layman's terms?
what area of the burbs do you live in?
Laymen's terms - I took the first photoshopped design I made, and using a program called Adobe Illustrator, I traced around the edges with the pen tool to create a version of the logo that is defined by mathematical equations rather than a raster of pixels with assigned RGB values. This is known as vector artwork, and is known this way because the lines are basically derived from formulas, and will change shape depending on where you put your vertices - (control points.) Say you wanted to make a circle. You make 4 points like a square, only you have handles on each point that you pull out at a 45 degree angle to the sides of the square. These handles act like magnets, and bow out the sides of the square until it becomes a circle. Thus a circle, no matter how large or small can be defined by 4 control points with handles. These shapes, made of points connected by lines that are shaped by mathematical equations are known collectively as vector-based artwork.
Once I had the shape fine-tuned and smooth all the way around, I then imported it into a 3D program known as 3D studio max. In this program, I was able to take the flat vector based image, and pull it out into the third dimension. In 3D programs, vector based artwork is taken to the next level by the addition of a Z axis, or depth, into those same mathematical equations. I took my basic vector shapes (see above for explaination of what vector shapes are) - these shapes are refered to as splines. I then extruded them - added Z-depth to them. They were now kind of like boxes - imagine if you take a circle and pull it in Z depth it becomes a cylinder, which is a round box made from a circle if you take my analogy. Then if you shrink the top to virtually a single point, it becomes a cone. This is refered to as beveling. the edges of your kitchen counter are probably beveled, a picture frame is beveled, you get the idea.
Finally, I assigned textures to the surface of the now 3-dimensional vector-based artwork, known as a 3D model. The texture I assigned was designed to give the effect of an almost mirror like finish, like polished metal or chrome. Now I had to give it something to reflect, so i threw some random colored brownish and bluish squares all around the model, created a pretend camera to look through, aimed at the model, and set up a camera lens depth of field effect to blur the background. I clicked the render button, and 12 passes and 2 minutes later, had that rasterized jpg image ready to upload.
I hope that's layman enough for you. For more information on Adobe Illustrator and 3D studio max, you can check out www.adobe.com and www.discreet.com -only the new versions of 3D studio max are called Autodesk 3ds max I belive - I'm still using version 5 at work and 6 at home.
And home is Upper Darby - near the 69th St. Station.
mauroavella 06-10-2005, 10:33 AM WOW!!!!!, RazOrama your logo is just flawless, congratulations!!! If you guys make it please let me know and I'll buy. One more thing, I'm Colombian, and EVERYTHING is cheaper there, so if we get the data I could ask for prices in one of my trips there, I'd say it wouldn't be more than $5 to $10 each, but I have to ask. PM me if interested
mauroavella 06-10-2005, 10:36 AM OH! one more thing, let me know the material we want to have this done!
mauroavella 06-10-2005, 10:40 AM Oh! one last thing... sorry... I'm flying there next week for 10 days, just in case we want to do that in this trip. Anyway, if not it's ok, I have to travel once every 6 weeks. Ah, and I can get them to miami for free (Company mail) so shipping would be only form Miami only.
RA-Eight 06-10-2005, 01:02 PM Maurovella,
Most definately, and I think Raz will agree, if you want to take the file and shop around, that would be awesome. I think the emblem should be the same material as the "Flying M", which is plastic of some sort, if possible (please correct me if I'm wrong). If not, machined metal seems to be the easiest to produce.
However, I don't think we've determined if this will cover the existing holes yet.
jaehyun127 06-10-2005, 02:37 PM Hey guys, many of you have inquired me about the availability of the badge -- and here is the info. I can make the badge (rotor w/ 8 in it), however, it will NOT be beveled, and it will be flat... like the other badges that i'm looking to make. I have to make a template for this, so production will start if you guys are interested.
I still need the DIMENSIONS that you guys want this to be. It will be laser cut from stainless steel, so it will be waterproof, and pretty darn sturdy as it will be 1mm of SS thick!!
PM me for interest.
James.
Raz0rama 06-10-2005, 02:43 PM As for the covering holes argument, I'm pretty sure it can be made to cover the holes by either raising or lowering the placement, or at worst making the rotor shape a hair thicker. What is really necessary at this point is finding out the exact curvature of the hood/rear at that point and finding out the feasability of creating a complex shape like that for a relatively limited distribution (this club).
Artzy8 06-10-2005, 03:30 PM Consider a more generic rotary symbol instead of the "8". Maybe a subtle morph of the 7 & 8. You could then get the 7 owners on board and increase the production runs.
Your design is stunning but my experience says it will cost well over $100 ea for a small production run.
jaehyun127 06-10-2005, 04:03 PM w/o the bezeled look, as i have stated, and w/o holes will cost 15-20 made from laser cut stainless steel.
Lady_Shinka 06-10-2005, 04:31 PM Razorama - are you an engineer? You certainly sound like one, not that it is a bad thing, I just found myself feeling like I was listening to one of my engineering profs as I was reading through your explicit details for designing an emblem in programs.
I am taking Robotics this summer and learning a little about VRML to simulate robotic arm movements on computers, and next summer I'll be doing a robotics internship.
Reading your post was actually inspiring. It's cool to know I'll be able to use the stuff I learn for hobbies as well as just work. :p
shinka213 06-10-2005, 04:37 PM Laymen's terms - I took the first photoshopped design I made, and using a program called Adobe Illustrator, I traced around the edges with the pen tool to create a version of the logo that is defined by mathematical equations rather than a raster of pixels with assigned RGB values. This is known as vector artwork, and is known this way because the lines are basically derived from formulas, and will change shape depending on where you put your vertices - (control points.) Say you wanted to make a circle. You make 4 points like a square, only you have handles on each point that you pull out at a 45 degree angle to the sides of the square. These handles act like magnets, and bow out the sides of the square until it becomes a circle. Thus a circle, no matter how large or small can be defined by 4 control points with handles. These shapes, made of points connected by lines that are shaped by mathematical equations are known collectively as vector-based artwork.
Once I had the shape fine-tuned and smooth all the way around, I then imported it into a 3D program known as 3D studio max. In this program, I was able to take the flat vector based image, and pull it out into the third dimension. In 3D programs, vector based artwork is taken to the next level by the addition of a Z axis, or depth, into those same mathematical equations. I took my basic vector shapes (see above for explaination of what vector shapes are) - these shapes are refered to as splines. I then extruded them - added Z-depth to them. They were now kind of like boxes - imagine if you take a circle and pull it in Z depth it becomes a cylinder, which is a round box made from a circle if you take my analogy. Then if you shrink the top to virtually a single point, it becomes a cone. This is refered to as beveling. the edges of your kitchen counter are probably beveled, a picture frame is beveled, you get the idea.
Finally, I assigned textures to the surface of the now 3-dimensional vector-based artwork, known as a 3D model. The texture I assigned was designed to give the effect of an almost mirror like finish, like polished metal or chrome. Now I had to give it something to reflect, so i threw some random colored brownish and bluish squares all around the model, created a pretend camera to look through, aimed at the model, and set up a camera lens depth of field effect to blur the background. I clicked the render button, and 12 passes and 2 minutes later, had that rasterized jpg image ready to upload.
I hope that's layman enough for you. For more information on Adobe Illustrator and 3D studio max, you can check out www.adobe.com and www.discreet.com -only the new versions of 3D studio max are called Autodesk 3ds max I belive - I'm still using version 5 at work and 6 at home.
And home is Upper Darby - near the 69th St. Station.
thanks....I think I understand a little more now....but Im also picking up that that is what you do for a living??????
we are not too far from each other....I live in Aston....right off of 95 near meetinghouse rd...
just really a stones throw - do you belong to the RX8 Tristate club?
have you seen my new post? got the OEM package installed the other day...
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=63615
RA-Eight 06-10-2005, 04:49 PM Here's the response from Ricks:
Ra
We would be interested is producing them, if the demand was high enough to support the cost of production. If you could send somethingso that we can get an idea of exactly what you are talking about.
Thanks
Jeff Shahan
Rick's
This is the kind of badges Rick's produce:
RX8 Pusher 06-10-2005, 05:27 PM Ra Eight & Raz,
Did Maurovella get the required info needed to have some samples made while in Columbia? If not, we are going to miss out on a good opportunity for a good quality at a reduced price product........
Raz0rama 06-10-2005, 06:53 PM thanks....I think I understand a little more now....but Im also picking up that that is what you do for a living??????
we are not too far from each other....I live in Aston....right off of 95 near meetinghouse rd...
just really a stones throw - do you belong to the RX8 Tristate club?
have you seen my new post? got the OEM package installed the other day...
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=63615
I'm thinking of joining.
Yes, I do this for a living. If you're a phantoms fan and go to any of the games, you'll see my work on the Jumbotron screen. I'm a 3D & Motion Graphics artist working for Comcast Spectacor at the Wachovia Center. We do all the in-house game graphics, as well as corporate videos, commercials, etc. I've been working in 3D for about 6 years now, with computers for about 13 or 14 years.
Checking out the new post now... :-D
Raz0rama 06-10-2005, 06:55 PM Ra Eight & Raz,
Did Maurovella get the required info needed to have some samples made while in Columbia? If not, we are going to miss out on a good opportunity for a good quality at a reduced price product........
The DXF is available in the zip - I dunno if he took it or not. If other formats are needed people can let me know.
mauroavella 06-10-2005, 07:58 PM Ra Eight & Raz,
Did Maurovella get the required info needed to have some samples made while in Columbia? If not, we are going to miss out on a good opportunity for a good quality at a reduced price product........
I Just got it. Like I said, I'm going to Colombia next week, as soon as I get there I'll give it to one of the engineers and tell him to quote around our providers. I think I can get something 2 to 3 days after that.
I read people talking about curvatures and stuff and if that it the case I have to know that too. IMO I don't see any need for that, but I'm no expert.
Let me know, and again, PLEASE PM me also.
I made an R, X, -, and 8 in a font program that I feel is pretty darn near accurate, if it would be of help to anyone for this project.
RX8 Pusher 06-10-2005, 10:02 PM OK, Maurovella I am glad you got it in time. I am sure that you will be able to get a better price in Columbia!
I have requested production price quotes from 3 different manufactures. Each offer different "deals"; one requires a min of 500 for 1st run production, while one other will do 1 & 2 at a time. When I get back the price quotes from the 3 companies I will post the info that i found so we can compare it with any other price quotes that are obtained.
I attached a pic of a sample from one of the companies I am talking to to show the quality of work. Let me know what you think.
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 06-10-2005, 11:44 PM I attached a pic of a sample from one of the companies I am talking to to show the quality of work.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks for your hard work!
The sample you provided looks pretty rough (don't you think?).
"I think" most of us would like "at least OEM" quality...
Once again, thanks for your help!
Al
RX8 Pusher 06-10-2005, 11:53 PM EyeBall Fixer,
The photo was re-sized and degraded from the original file in order to get it below the 100kb max size a lowed. I can e-mail you a better quality pic if you like. With that being said I am sold on that manufacture by no means, but they can do the beveled look that I think most everyone would appreciate. I am with you when it come to quality- the closer we can come to the OEM likeness the better.
Just providing some info on my part and I thank you for your feedback.
Regards
Raz0rama 06-10-2005, 11:53 PM damn thats awesome sample of work there!!!
In response to the curvature thing, the emblem needs to lie flat on a curved surface. This involves it being warped to a degree. I don't know how much though, since I haven't had a chance to make measurments. Also, the final size of the emblem would depend on the scale at which it needs to be produced to cover the holes. If anyone has debadged their car and has their old emblems still, easieast thing to do would be to put a ruler accross the back, and measure the height of the gap between the ruler and the emblem at the highest point of the curve. That combined with the actual height of the emblem will give me all that I need to know to warp the model sufficiently for the end result to rest nicely on the surface of the nose or tail. I'm guessing by looking at the hood of my car that the curvature is about 1/16 or more at the maximum in the approxiamately 3 1/2 inches of height the emblem covers. Thats enough of a curve to make it so if the emblem is machined flat, it will stick up almost 1/8 at one end when its flush the other end. I don't think too many people will want that. If the curvature is similar on front and rear then one emblem should be enough to replace both. Otherwise, probably two versions are necessary.
Raz0rama 06-10-2005, 11:58 PM Of course if its flexible enough I guess that wouldn't be a problem, but I can't see a metal emblem flexing that much. If its plastic, and thin, maybe, but the bevel is going to add a lot of rigidity even to a thin molded plastic piece.
RX8 Pusher 06-11-2005, 08:19 AM Where are the debadged guys/gals at? Is the front and read flying W the same emblem, are they curved or do they lay flat, etc...? Please do not make me go buy a set just to get the info.....with 2,188 views of this thread we are still lacking some info. Come on folks help us to help you!
shinka213 06-11-2005, 01:10 PM Hey Folks
I just did a quick measurement...and it appears that the front and rear badges are the same size....approx 3" x 4".....front one looks like it might even be laying flat......I think they are interchangeable...but if someone could actually look the parts up from Mazda we would actually see if they are...hope this helps!!! I definitely like the 3D look.....something flat wouldnt suit the car at all....
poolsidenaz 06-11-2005, 01:25 PM Rear flying M emblem debadge here so I'll describe mine.
From left to right (side to side) of the emblem, it seems to lay flat.
However from the top to the bottom there is slight curve, it does not lay flat. The center bows out a bit from the top and bottom of the emblem.
Are you aware of where the pegs are located on the rear flying M? Also there are numbers on the back of it so I'm going to type those here. I have no idea what they mean but here goes:
F152 51 731 on one side, then >ABS< on the other side and the numeral 1 to the right of that.
Where are the debadged guys/gals at? Is the front and read flying W the same emblem, are they curved or do they lay flat, etc...? Please do not make me go buy a set just to get the info.....with 2,188 views of this thread we are still lacking some info. Come on folks help us to help you!
VelociRedBeast 06-11-2005, 03:02 PM We should make a list of everyone who will buy one, might help when talking to the manufacturers.
Spyder_doo 06-11-2005, 03:17 PM sign me up
jeffe19007 06-11-2005, 03:35 PM Depending on cost and final result, sign me up!
devious12 06-12-2005, 02:57 AM I think these two threads should be merged together...
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=913181&posted=1#post913181
jenkins-crew 06-13-2005, 08:37 AM man that's nice.
LucasET 06-13-2005, 05:10 PM I was just thinking....
What about a solid design with the 8 etched out of the center of the rotor shape? That would eliminate the problem with resizing the logo to fit the mounting holes, and I'd think it would be a bit easier to machine.
I'm still in either way.
RA-Eight 06-13-2005, 08:12 PM I got another response from Rick Hesel himself. As you can see, we'll need at least 100 folks to commit, but we'll take names as soon as designs are finalized. Rick's is still an option. Maybe if we can get a solid quote from our other resources, we can compare, and make a decision.
Cheers!
Ra
Ra,
We can help on these, but I'll need the file to get an estimate. Minimum quantity is 100 you should know.
Rick
Rick Hesel
Rick's Signature Accessories
740 Leister Drive
Timonium, MD 21093
www.ricks2k.com
rick@ricks2k.com
RX8 Pusher 06-13-2005, 08:42 PM I have been in contact with the following 3 companies in order to obtain price quotes and additional details:
http://www.miladisplays.com/autonameplates.htm
http://www.motorheadjewelry.com/customtg.html
http://think3d.biz/index.php
I have received the first price quote from www.think3d.biz who supplied the following price quote:
"Thanks for your inquiry about producing the RX8 emblem.
My pricing is on the Info page at http://think3d.biz in your case $40.00 each plus $200.00 CND Set-up. If I'm the low bidder then I'd be able to deliver the first 100 in 8 to 12 weeks.
Regards, Tom"
Guys and Gals, take a look at each of the companies who offer sample pics, pricing and additional info and let us know what you think. I will provide the feedback info once I have received it.
Cheers!
RX8Pusher
devious12 06-13-2005, 09:23 PM I'd have to say that
http://think3d.biz/index.php looks like a good bet, what do the rest of you think?
vinix 06-13-2005, 09:36 PM yup think3d looks good :) just let me know when to give up the MONEY :D
tiggerlee 06-13-2005, 09:42 PM yup think3d looks good :) just let me know when to give up the MONEY :D
I have to agree. I'm in as long as there would be a gold plated version available. :D
shinka213 06-13-2005, 11:46 PM I have been in contact with the following 3 companies in order to obtain price quotes and additional details:
http://www.miladisplays.com/autonameplates.htm
http://www.motorheadjewelry.com/customtg.html
http://think3d.biz/index.php
I have received the first price quote from www.think3d.biz who supplied the following price quote:
"Thanks for your inquiry about producing the RX8 emblem.
My pricing is on the Info page at http://think3d.biz in your case $40.00 each plus $200.00 CND Set-up. If I'm the low bidder then I'd be able to deliver the first 100 in 8 to 12 weeks.
Regards, Tom"
Guys and Gals, take a look at each of the companies who offer sample pics, pricing and additional info and let us know what you think. I will provide the feedback info once I have received it.
Cheers!
RX8Pusher
I like the Mila Displays....
VelociRedBeast 06-13-2005, 11:47 PM I agree, Think 3d looks good, and check out how complicated they're first emblem looks.
BTW would it be 80 bucks total? one for front and one for rear?
RA-Eight 06-14-2005, 09:04 AM RX8PUSHER-
That's awesome, good job doing the leg work. Will any of these vendors create a sample/mockup before we commit to place the order?
Also, I noticed that think3d is located in British Columbia, is the quoted price of $80/each in USD or CAN? If it's $80 CAN, the conversion is in our favor, about $63 USD. Is this $80 per emblem or $80 per set (front and back)?
Regards,
Ra
Raz0rama 06-14-2005, 09:57 AM All prices are in CDN Dollars.
Found on their website.
chrism 06-14-2005, 11:04 AM just let me know when the group buy is on and im in for a set!
Spyder_doo 06-14-2005, 02:31 PM ditto here
RA-Eight 06-14-2005, 08:23 PM Update from Rick's
Ra,
The design is certainly doable, but if the curvature of the body is too extreme, getting the badge to lie flat will be a problem. The shape does help a bit. The S2000 can be a good example, since the body curvature is no problem. In fact, I can send a few spare S2000 badges for you to try mounting on the Mazda. If they work, all is ok.
Basically the unit costs of the badges can range anywhere from about $15 -30 per badge or perhaps less, again depending on quantity and complexity of the final art. It pays to order larger quantities, since the cost differential tends to be quite small.
The raised appearance can be captured, but only to a degree, since the badges are molded in a plastic composite that's not very thick.
Once you have final art, dimensions, and indications of the color breaks you want, we can obtain precise estimates that will hold through production.
Rick
RX8 Pusher 06-14-2005, 10:42 PM Guys & Gals,
I have been in contact with Tom again at 3D, he provided the following info:
"Thanks for the confidence you have about my pricing. The price breakdown is $88.00 dollars CDN ($70.00 USD) for a pair of emblems (Setup fee factored in plus shipping and 2.9% if you use PayPal). I'm a very small operation just my wife and I so that timing is a big factor, I'd need 1 week to make the master, the casting will probably take 2-3 weeks and the plating
4-6 weeks then applying the 2-way tape another week. That is if every thing runs smoothly.
I like your design but it needs a small (1/32") vertical edge where the slope ends so that there are no ragged edges. I trust that the peaks are all level and that the slopes vary, this is tricky but isn't a problem. The plating is the same as with all plastic emblems, done at a local firm - more info at http://www.cvvacuumplaters.com
By all means include me in your bid evaluation.
Regards,
Tom"
I replied and asked for the ability for him do produce a sample of the emblem for review....of course there will be a fee associated. I also provided him a pic of the OEM Mazda Corp emblem to clarify the beveled edge that we desire.
More to follow as I receive it. I have still not received feedback from the other vendors.
Cheers!
RX8Pusher
RX8 Pusher 06-15-2005, 08:59 PM 3D supplied the following additional info:
RX8 Pusher,
I'm sorry if I've confused you regarding the bevel. Let me explain, if the peak is the same height all over but the footprint varies then the angle of the bevel changes steeper and flatter. But if the peak or ridge varies then the bevel can stay more or less the same. I'll have a close look at the Mazda emblem tomorrow.
I would have made a sample anyways, with the amount of money you'll be spending it's important that we get it right.
We could save time if the prototype is unplated and I'll send you a small emblem that is plated as a sample.
If you require a fully finished sample this could take 4-5 weeks.
I'll send you a 3D image showing various angles before I start cutting but it's never the same as holding it in your hand. If you want to make changes to the unplated sample then not too much time or money is lost.
I'd also like to stagger the shipments so I can do about 26 at a time this is easier than making 100 together.
Regards, Tom
Ok folks, it is getting closer to decision time. I think we have the final design; next step is who we are going to have fab the emblems. We need folks to commit to 100 units total if we go with 3D. There may be folks who want 2 (front & rear) or just 1, then there will be some folks who want more. As long as we get people to commit to a total of 100 we are in business. I am not sure the best way to go about calculating the folks that are committed; voting buttons or a running post of those interested, or e-mail your interest to a single club member. I am open to suggestions, but we still have to decide on who to go with first.
Like the provided e-mail states, 3d will provide an example. Obviously, not everyone can put their hands on it, but we can mail it around for a week or so if that is what is required for you to commit to the emblem.
I have placed the design pic here again folk folks who are just joining the thread. Enjoy!
English 06-16-2005, 10:12 AM I like it, but I think the top part of the 8 should be closed off a bit more.....extend the top, and angle up the bottom part of the top half of the 8.
Backup7 06-16-2005, 11:36 AM I have a problem with the "8." It's similar to the "8" in the official RX-8 badge, but far from an exact match.
I recommend either getting it exact, or coming up with an "8" that's entirely different. Otherwise, the emblem just won't look right.
RX8 Pusher 06-16-2005, 11:39 PM Raz,
Do you have anymore design magic that you can do to fix the 8 to be an exact copy of the Mazda’s 8 on the back?
Raz0rama 06-17-2005, 12:35 AM lemme take a look when I get to work tomorrow
Inconsequential 06-17-2005, 02:35 AM If it fits as nicely as the efini badge on an FD, I am in for 2, they look sweet, nice job.
devious12 06-17-2005, 09:00 AM Why don't we start an interest list and everyone can post next to their name how many they would like.
1)devious (4)
chrism 06-17-2005, 09:03 AM Why don't we start an interest list and everyone can post next to their name how many they would like.
1)devious (4)
2)chrism (2)(front and back one each)
im in
GotZoom 06-17-2005, 09:23 AM I have read so much in this thread I forgot the answer to this question so I will ask.
Is this going to "replace" or be "in addition to" the badges already on the car?
RA-Eight 06-17-2005, 10:18 AM It is supposed to replace the "Flying M" on the front and rear.
As far as starting the interest list, I'd hold off until we have designs finalized, and vendor chosen, and prices set. If that's okay with everyone, I think it will spare the confusion. I imagine we start a brand new thread.
mauroavella 06-17-2005, 11:24 AM I see we are doing pretty good here with the local manufacturers, and I like it that way too. I'm still going to ask in Colombia about this, send me the information we gather here regarding size, etc..., and I'll make sure to quote some vendors there as well. In any case, I can say right now that once I know the price I'd probably buy 2 or so, . I'm pretty sure we'll manage to fint 100, even more, the logo is just awsome.
devious12 06-17-2005, 12:27 PM That's cool we can wait to start the interest list no problem with me. I do need 4 though one for the front one for the back and two to cover my nipples when I go streakin down the street at night. :p
shinka213 06-17-2005, 11:22 PM lemme take a look when I get to work tomorrow
Hey Raz
I kinda like it the way it is......does the 8 have to be exactly like the one on the car?
comments anyone? :D
Inconsequential 06-18-2005, 02:38 AM only thing I can think of, would be to make the outside edge a little wider for properly covering holes, but I could be wrong
devious12 06-18-2005, 03:19 AM Yeah your right the wider the more agressive looking, as well as fitting the holes.
VelociRedBeast 06-18-2005, 03:36 PM VelociRedBeast(2)
Aeterna 06-18-2005, 05:10 PM Just me and my 2 pennies... I know of a place: www.motorheadjewelry.com that CAN do it, I'm going to write to them and submit a copy of Raz' artwork and see what they say. You're all welcome to do the same and see what kind of response we get.
By the way Raz,
that embem...
is
freaking
awesome, Period.
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 06-18-2005, 09:53 PM How 'bout making one to replace the "Flying M" on our horn button?
RX8 Pusher 06-19-2005, 02:30 PM Aeterna,
If you go back a few pages on the thread you will see that I have already contacted them and requested a price quote, and they have the pic as well....but good luck and if they reply let us know what they have to say.
Raz0rama 06-19-2005, 06:58 PM Well I tried a couple of variations of the basic design at work and none of them look as clean or nice as the one I posted, so aside from creating one thats a little wider outside (maybe to match the fat part of the 8) I don't think I really want to change it. Making the 8 match the RX-8 font exactly makes it too short vertically to fill the rotor, thus it looks off balance. Plus, since the 8 is tilted, it throws the balance of the design off to one side, or creates uneven negative space top and bottom. I didn't like any of those versions so I'm not gonna share - I'd prefer to have any emblems I buy look like the design I already posted, myself. If any one else wants to try designing one feel free and go ahead! If its better, kudos, if not, I'll lobby for my own work :-)
jaehyun127 06-19-2005, 07:58 PM I haven't read what you guys have wrote so far, so i'm not really updated... however, from the badge on page 3 or so, i'm making a prototype of approx 5-6in wide for the tri8 badge. It is going to be laser cut, 1mm thick, and made of stainless steel.
If you guys are interested, let me know. I'll be posting pictures as soon as it is available.
shinka213 06-19-2005, 10:23 PM Well I tried a couple of variations of the basic design at work and none of them look as clean or nice as the one I posted, so aside from creating one thats a little wider outside (maybe to match the fat part of the 8) I don't think I really want to change it. Making the 8 match the RX-8 font exactly makes it too short vertically to fill the rotor, thus it looks off balance. Plus, since the 8 is tilted, it throws the balance of the design off to one side, or creates uneven negative space top and bottom. I didn't like any of those versions so I'm not gonna share - I'd prefer to have any emblems I buy look like the design I already posted, myself. If any one else wants to try designing one feel free and go ahead! If its better, kudos, if not, I'll lobby for my own work :-)
Raz:
Im sold on your work!!!!!!
if it aint broke....dont fix it!!!!!
Here are a couple ideas, building on those that have already been made. Not to take away from them but just as a possible alternate. I thought I might try with an 8 that is more like the true 8, and also try something a little different (got the idea from the post reply button - it might have even been done before, I can't remember :))
RX8 Pusher 06-23-2005, 09:38 PM Nick I like the first one you did the best.
I received a price quote from the second of the three companies that I had contacted. "Mila" company quoted a price so high that providing the details would make you want to cry. The minimal cost was over $5,000.00 USD! If you want the exact details I can supply them but I think that it is way out of the ballpark for what we are trying to accomplish here.
Regards,
RX8 Pusher
LucasET 06-24-2005, 10:40 AM Here are a couple ideas, building on those that have already been made.
I like Raz's version the best of the ones so far. I still think a solid rotor design with an "8" etched out of the center would be cool too. I just think it would stand out more. Anyone want to take a stab at that?
mauroavella 06-27-2005, 03:15 PM Hello everyone. I'm still here in NY in this @#$& project, It took longer than expecter and I'll be here for the next 2 weeks so I won't be able to quote in Colombia personally. However, I'm contacting the people there to see if they can asist me with that. I can't give my word on anything if I don't do it myself BUT I'll see if I can arrange the info we need from here. I'll post any progress.
RedSheDevil 06-27-2005, 03:42 PM Being a graphic designer myself, I often purchase outside stuff like this. I think the main thing those kind sould who are quoting this stuff around should remember to ask is: are they quoting as a one-time run? Meaning one person will need to front the money and take delivery of all of the pieces (and pay the total then resell to us interested parties). Or are they willing to produce these and let us order them as we want? Just a thought for all of you who are quoting....you probably aren't interested in a bunch of emblems (esp if no one wants them) to have them sitting in your living room waiting for buyers.
just my .02
RedSheDevil 06-27-2005, 03:44 PM BTW Raz, the emblem looks great!!! Nice work. And I'm bringing you along to my next meeting where someone asks how you get the stuff on paper to look pretty on the computer. You can explain away!!!
RX8 Pusher 06-27-2005, 11:46 PM She Devil,
You are correct in your statement that you provided earlier. While we do have 28 pages to this thread, we are far from the numbers required to have the run made, much less the risk one would take for paying up front for the entire order out of pocket and waiting for the items to be purchased. Quite frankly, I thought that more people would be interested but at this stage (design/price quote) it is hard to sell a product that you do not have in hand........I feel that most folks are sitting and watching and if we come up with a good product they will commit. Sounds like a quote from TV, "build it and they will come"
tiggerlee 06-27-2005, 11:58 PM Try making a new thread to guage interest, see if the mods would make it a sticky. That way it's more likely to be seen. I love the design that Raz did and as I said before I'd be interested in a few.
RA-Eight 06-28-2005, 12:29 PM I agree with RX8Pusher, if the product is good, and price point is appealing, we'll have more people to commit. At this point we need a best-guess ballpark figure for cost per emblem, and then get a thread going based on this guess. I've seen too many threads have committed members and when prices are revealed, members drop, and the numbers commited becomes obscure, and harder to track.
Let's have the numbers up front, and start a new thread for those seriously interested. Those who have gotten quotes, please report your numbers again.
I was thinking tonight, does the Emblem on the back need to be curved like the one on the front. If not then would we have to order 2 different versions of the emblem. One for the back and one for the front?
D1GT-x8 06-29-2005, 09:20 AM hey how about a more jdm feel like the eunos efini emblem. i made a few drawings but nothing finalized but ill post as soon if you guys are interested
TODreamer 06-29-2005, 10:15 AM I'm tapping in and out of this thread... I need to read it in more detail but from the jist i get.. here is what the deal is:
As much as you guys would like to just have these made by order and put on simply for the love of the car... it cant work like that... it has to be a business especially when i look at the costs... and if its a business... there is risk (sorry guys).
If I had money i would take the risk on these..... set up a web store and sell it through that... Further, I know for a fact that I can sell these badges here in Toronto. There are so many stores here that sell lil "doodads" and "knic knacks" for cars. most of it is purely rice (no offence) but they sell! and the people that sell these things are negotiable and shouldnt be hard to work over at all
BlueEyes 06-29-2005, 10:34 AM pardon my laziness, but there are a bagillion posts in this thread. Does someone have a dimensioned drawing of this thing? I want to see if I can make something like this on our CNC machine.
TODreamer 07-04-2005, 11:01 AM so whats the status on this?
I really want to see this happen
RX8 Pusher 07-06-2005, 09:34 PM TODreamer,
Well, as far as I know we are waiting for some price estimates from a club member who goes/has contacts in Colombia. Once we get that data we will take all of the price quotes and decide on a vendor. Concurrently, the designer of the emblem will add his final touches, add measurements, then we need to figure out the payment plan...that will be the ruff one, once that gets worked out the initial production prototype will be made and sent for review/acceptance, then the first production run will be made and delivered to the club members who want them. The whole process can be time consuming, remember Rome was not built in a day, but it was built.
Cheers, RX8 Pusher
so whats the deal are they gunna fit in the stock holes because im taking mine to be debadged for everything except for the M and i want to know if i should debadge it fully now because these wont have posts or what...
RedSheDevil 07-07-2005, 01:39 PM so whats the deal are they gunna fit in the stock holes because im taking mine to be debadged for everything except for the M and i want to know if i should debadge it fully now because these wont have posts or what...
K1nG, I think they were talking about trying to use the stock holes. I don't think anyone wants new/extra holes. Did anyone ever check the curve of the front vs back (to see if they are the same or if we would need two separate ones). I've been following this thread, but think it may disintegrate as was mentioned earlier unless someone is willing to finance and order this and then resell to people who want them. And I'd really like to see a beveled (not flat) emblem that says quality. I have issues with license plate holders that have flaking problems, so I'm sure I wouldn't want a badge that fell apart or looked cheap.
I do this kind of stuff for a living (not car badges, but subcontracting to vendors and reselling to my end clients) so I can help someone with the logistics if you'd like, but I'm not willing to pony up the cash for the entire run. Sorry, just being honest.
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 07-10-2005, 02:32 PM New emblems would have been nice... I fear no one will make this happen..
BigOLundh 07-10-2005, 03:32 PM RX8 Pusher,
Can you post a 3D pic of this, with just the rotarty emblem without the 8 in the center?
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52694
jenkins-crew 07-10-2005, 05:18 PM or incorporate part of the Mazda M into it....
truemagellen 07-10-2005, 09:08 PM someone get an OEM emblem with posts intact to whoever is creating the final CAD and to the manufacturer
this way the posts can line up...everyone can be happy :D
TODreamer 07-11-2005, 11:29 AM TODreamer,
Well, as far as I know we are waiting for some price estimates from a club member who goes/has contacts in Colombia. Once we get that data we will take all of the price quotes and decide on a vendor. Concurrently, the designer of the emblem will add his final touches, add measurements, then we need to figure out the payment plan...that will be the ruff one, once that gets worked out the initial production prototype will be made and sent for review/acceptance, then the first production run will be made and delivered to the club members who want them. The whole process can be time consuming, remember Rome was not built in a day, but it was built.
Cheers, RX8 Pusher
Thanks for the update...
I want to be part of this building of rome..... I know I can make money with this emblem up here.
Who from Toronto Here.... BLue Eyes! ... What do you think of all those Chinese "Rice" shops at Pacific Mall and Market Village? I'm sure I could sell them as they have all kinds of senseless crap (this thing is actually good) and theres so many little shops like that.
isnt this supposed to be a club badge and not some little ricer shop included badge?
TODreamer 07-11-2005, 01:25 PM isnt this supposed to be a club badge and not some little ricer shop included badge?
OK well I didn't know it was strictly for club use... sorry.... Its probably better that way anyways. The only reason why I though of selling it is that it seems pretty probable that if we keep it within the club it will cost way too much to spilit up amongst us...
just an idea
RedSheDevil 07-11-2005, 04:20 PM If it's quality, I personally don't care if it's "members only" (LOL, I just cracked myself up there) or if it's offered to "the others." Just please oh please don't make it cheesy. And if it flakes off, that will suck huge.
SikRedRX-8 07-11-2005, 04:43 PM That badge looks amazing. I would definetly buy two and a steering wheel one if they get made.
antiver 07-14-2005, 04:56 AM I'd probably buy a front & back badge, but $100 for the set would be too much. I'd easily pay close to $50 for the set. So I'd like to wait and see final pricing and product before commiting. :)
BTW, can you make a second version that spins in place whenever you come to a stop (say at lights)?
:P
TODreamer 07-14-2005, 10:45 AM BTW, can you make a second version that spins in place whenever you come to a stop (say at lights)?
:P
LOL.. please tell me you are joking
Labop 07-14-2005, 11:02 AM that'd actually be pretty easy to do, as long as you had only one post, just hook up a small motor to the brake lights... it'll spin when ever you mash the breaks. It'll look really gay, but that's your call ;)
I like the badge, very nice design
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 07-14-2005, 07:53 PM That badge looks amazing. I would definetly buy two and a steering wheel one if they get made.
Me Too!
I hope this project gets done!
Sempher 07-21-2005, 08:02 PM i want one aswell... ill pay anything for one.
Zuhalter Vati 07-21-2005, 08:35 PM i want one aswell... ill pay anything for one.
Well if you have 5 grand as stated earlier in the thread...you can get it rolling :)
jenkins-crew 07-22-2005, 01:39 AM No emblem is worth that much!
TODreamer 07-22-2005, 08:11 AM No emblem is worth that much!
it is if you make a business venture out of it
Sempher 07-22-2005, 01:38 PM with your permission, id like to weld something up... is thats ok? If not... im sure i can make a mold of something.... well see. I have great welding skills, so i might be able to make something... but like i said.. i think a mold would be alot cheaper, and easier to make.
RX8 Pusher 07-29-2005, 04:16 PM Sempher weld away! Take pics and share
Lschiavo 07-30-2005, 10:00 AM Sempher weld away! Take pics and share
I am in for two even if it cost 100$
Sempher 07-30-2005, 02:14 PM Well funny guys, you start posting right when i come to a problem lol... where the top part of the 8 connects with the original ring, it keeps breaking, i think its because im trying to make it to scale, but now ive started to try to make it a lil bit bigger, just as concept. In tracy, i found a chrome shop i talked to the manager that runs it, told him the idea of yours, printed out the pic and he said its possible, but.... heres the part that sucks, but its true, We cant use the original holes from the first mazda piece.... i tried to make it work, but its not... and i even scratched my paint from trying.. ill upload some pics later today, im at work right now, but im excited about this.. and think we should copyright this because i think its gonna look awsome. oh... each emblem shouldnt be over 45$ hes going to chrome me cheap since he said we had alot in common... i hope hes not hittin on me..oh god..
truemagellen 07-30-2005, 03:08 PM Well funny guys, you start posting right when i come to a problem lol... where the top part of the 8 connects with the original ring, it keeps breaking, i think its because im trying to make it to scale, but now ive started to try to make it a lil bit bigger, just as concept. In tracy, i found a chrome shop i talked to the manager that runs it, told him the idea of yours, printed out the pic and he said its possible, but.... heres the part that sucks, but its true, We cant use the original holes from the first mazda piece.... i tried to make it work, but its not... and i even scratched my paint from trying.. ill upload some pics later today, im at work right now, but im excited about this.. and think we should copyright this because i think its gonna look awsome. oh... each emblem shouldnt be over 45$ hes going to chrome me cheap since he said we had alot in common... i hope hes not hittin on me..oh god..
if he is hitting on you go with the flow ;) until you have 200 made then get outta there just kidding don't be a hustler :p
StealthFox 07-30-2005, 03:09 PM i still don't understand the allure of these things...i drive a mazda and im pround i dont need to be fooling anyone. the mazda flying M looks cool too. someone please explain
truemagellen 07-30-2005, 03:12 PM i still don't understand the allure of these things...i drive a mazda and im pround i dont need to be fooling anyone. the mazda flying M looks cool too. someone please explain
the RX-7 had the 7rotary logo
there is only one line of Rotary Cars left in production in the world...the RX line...so it deserves a unique emblem
but in addition the actual mazda symbol is oversized and a little to bubbly for me...does not coincide with the lines of the car
StealthFox 07-30-2005, 03:28 PM i see. are you going to debadge your mazda or rx8 logo if you were to swap the main 2 badges?
PoLaK 07-30-2005, 06:29 PM I sort of like this more, more rotary community oriented rather then just Rx8, it was designed awhile ago for Ryan he has expressed some interest in getting it made into a car emblem.
If anyone is capable with doing a professional/quality looking job with it, I can run it buy him.
jenkins-crew 07-30-2005, 06:38 PM That's exactly what I would want! Sweet!
NgoRX8 07-30-2005, 06:42 PM Hey, I like that too! :D
PoLaK 07-30-2005, 07:06 PM i guess it would be kinda cool to have it replace the one on the car, you could pretty much use the existing two holes too .
StealthFox 07-30-2005, 09:44 PM I sort of like this more, more rotary community oriented rather then just Rx8, it was designed awhile ago for Ryan he has expressed some interest in getting it made into a car emblem.
If anyone is capable with doing a professional/quality looking job with it, I can run it buy him.
looks very...feminine...
PoLaK 07-31-2005, 12:38 AM I guess if mazda wings and rotor outlines are feminine.....
Looks little meaner upright i guess.
tiggerlee 07-31-2005, 12:53 AM Is it just me or does the bottom look really thin. IMO I would think thicker would be more......masculine? LOL. just j/king. :p :D
Really though that could be a point at which the material could be weaker than the rest.
PoLaK 07-31-2005, 01:15 AM I IMO I would think thicker would be more......masculine? Tisk tisk don't you know its not the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean ;)
It's just a design im sure that the mold made for forging would account for stuff like that, i wonder if it could be made so that the pegs in the back could be inserted into a channel type mechanism so that people could place the emblem either like the last picture or askew like in my orignal post.
StealthFox 07-31-2005, 02:06 AM I guess if mazda wings and rotor outlines are feminine.....
Looks little meaner upright i guess.
indeed it does.
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 07-31-2005, 02:34 AM It might look nice if the detail in the yellow circle could be incorporated in the final release...
truemagellen 07-31-2005, 03:33 AM if I only had time I could make these in Silver or Gold...well Platinum too but I don't think anyone wants to loan me the cash for raw Platinum materials...unless you guys want to start donating your wives' wedding rings :p
StealthFox 07-31-2005, 02:48 PM gold would look nice on black cars but too "bling" on anything else though
tiggerlee 07-31-2005, 03:04 PM gold would look nice on black cars but too "bling" on anything else though
Yeah the gold looks sweet on black. I'd be in the market for a couple of these if they were available in gold. :D
StealthFox 07-31-2005, 03:07 PM nice chop tigger
tiggerlee 07-31-2005, 03:12 PM It's not a chop. What I've got is a $500.00 dealer add-on. I bought it that way. Check my sig for more pics. :D
StealthFox 07-31-2005, 03:23 PM 500 bucks? that better be gold plated or else you are a t-o-o-l haha
tiggerlee 07-31-2005, 03:26 PM LOL, Yeah my thought exactly. No I didn't pay the $500. I was able to get this as a freebie when I was negotiating the price of the car.
StealthFox 07-31-2005, 03:31 PM get some bronze wheels and get your strakes and rotary accents done it in gold...that will be some tasteful styling hehe. do you have black/red or black/chaparral in your interior?
tiggerlee 07-31-2005, 03:33 PM Grey. The black/chaparral would have been sweet.
tiggerlee 07-31-2005, 05:56 PM Tisk tisk don't you know its not the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean ;)
Yeah, I bet you probably hear that alot. :p :D
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 07-31-2005, 06:19 PM It's not a chop. What I've got is a $500.00 dealer add-on. I bought it that way. Check my sig for more pics. :D
Looks nice but....
to complete the "look" you should have gold plated your rotary accent(s) and exhaust tips....
Still, it looks pretty cool the way it is :)
tiggerlee 07-31-2005, 06:28 PM Looks nice but....
to complete the "look" you should have gold plated your rotary accent(s) and exhaust tips....
Still, it looks pretty cool the way it is :)
Thanks! Right now I'm looking for someone who can gold plate the strakes and rotary accents at a reasonable price. Problem is the last guy I spoke with here in Orlando says that due to the material of the rotary accents it may be more effective to fabricate from a different material then gold plate them. I think the rotary accents are aluminum correct? I'm not too familiar with plating metals so I'm not sure if this true or not. As far as the exhaust I may go with the gold tips after I upgrade it. Haven't decided yet.
StealthFox 07-31-2005, 11:17 PM exhaust tips?? yuck. if i were him id gold plate the strakes and the rotary accents and add bronze wheels
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 08-01-2005, 12:46 AM Thanks! Right now I'm looking for someone who can gold plate the strakes and rotary accents at a reasonable price. Problem is the last guy I spoke with here in Orlando says that due to the material of the rotary accents it may be more effective to fabricate from a different material then gold plate them. I think the rotary accents are aluminum correct? I'm not too familiar with plating metals so I'm not sure if this true or not. As far as the exhaust I may go with the gold tips after I upgrade it. Haven't decided yet.
Gold Leaf would work on the accents (fairly inexpensive and a DIY). You'd probably want to hit it with a few coats of clear coat when you're done :)
Raz0rama 08-01-2005, 09:21 AM Another successful thread hijack :-)
truemagellen 08-01-2005, 10:11 AM Another successful thread hijack :-)
I'd love to see someone gold leaf their entire car! that would be crazy talk :p
tiggerlee 08-01-2005, 02:03 PM Another successful thread hijack :-)
Just trying to keep it alive. :D
StealthFox 08-01-2005, 05:07 PM I'd love to see someone gold leaf their entire car! that would be crazy talk :p
the day thats done to the rx8 is the day i shoot myself. haah but have you guys seen the RENNTECH SL65 thats completely chromed out(yes every single body panel on the car is chrome) i was messing aroudn with it the other day at a local exotic car dealer thats the primary distributor for renntech west of the mississippi, so they always have lots of cool renntech stuff there :cool:
TODreamer 08-01-2005, 08:15 PM Well... this thread has went to the shiiter
EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 08-01-2005, 09:43 PM Well... this thread has went to the shiiter
Yup! Partially my fault :mad:
Unfortunately, this tread died a long time ago....
Too bad no one knew about it....
It would've been nice if some one could have got this thing going, it just never happened.
"...all bark and no bite"
Only a teaser...
Shinka13 08-01-2005, 09:54 PM Damn, I just found this thread last night too. I started getting excited when I started reading it, then.........like it was said before.....went to the shitter. I would have gladly paid $100.00 for the front and rear emblems.
Anyone on here rich enough to front the money? Have them (emblems) sent to someone's house (maybe mine?) and that somebody would be responsible for receiving payment and shipping. After payment is received, that somebody pays back the rich guy. If the rich guy is looking for someone trustworthy, I can be the middleman. I have a TS from Uncle Sam.
kride 11-16-2005, 12:50 AM Someone could initiate a poll to gain interest and then market the product, hmmn. :scratchhe I'm on board with the concepts and ideas thus far of a club emblem/badge. :grouphug: :fingersx: :uhh: :icon5: :scatter: :lol:
truemagellen 11-16-2005, 01:46 AM talk to RX8MAN04 I think is his screename, he has a CNC machine I'm sure he can do this job :)
mauroavella 11-16-2005, 08:30 AM You know who may do it too?, I remember this guy from the Rx8Web, he sells strakes that he makes on his shop, so I assume he might do this, I'll try to contact him there. I know he is also here but I don't remember his name or alias
truemagellen 11-16-2005, 10:31 AM you mean Dennis? unfortunately Dennis is out of business as the orders he took were overwelming as his product was outstanding and a great price.
mauroavella 11-16-2005, 01:01 PM Is that his "real" name?, I don't know it, I only know him by his username on the Rx8web. I just went there and looked it up, the name is "derwankel" I think he uses that same name here
I really don't think it's the same person because as far as I know he only did the strakes per request, so he couldn't be out of business... he had no business!!
truemagellen 11-16-2005, 01:03 PM derwankle worked with Dennis but I don't know if he broke free or what...just PM him :)
mauroavella 11-16-2005, 01:04 PM Yep... he's here too, and very active if i may say so.... ;-)... 324 posts... not bad
bsteimel 12-19-2006, 09:40 AM Did anyone acually get this modification?
if so, can someone post some kind of contact info?
RA-Eight 12-19-2006, 01:13 PM Ha! Back from the dead! Nope!
RA-Eight 12-19-2006, 01:24 PM I'd sport something like this which is similar to the USDM piano black b-pillar garnish (images borrowed from Wolverine's Super Autobacs Thread):
http://carview-img3.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/363854/p1.jpg
http://carview-img3.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/usercar/83812/p1.jpg
http://carview-img3.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/364618/p1.jpg
Or something like this (if it doesn't say Spirit R):
http://carview-img3.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/331786/p3.jpg
theboy 12-20-2006, 09:01 AM not bad at all.
Steakboy42 12-20-2006, 10:31 AM For shits and giggles, take a look at this:
http://myspace-906.vo.llnwd.net/00582/60/96/582206906_l.jpg
-Steakboy
RX-XSIV 12-20-2006, 11:44 AM [QUOTE=RA-Eight]I'd sport something like this which is similar to the USDM piano black b-pillar garnish (images borrowed from Wolverine's Super Autobacs Thread):
http://carview-img3.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/363854/p1.jpg
http://carview-img3.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/usercar/83812/p1.jpg
http://carview-img3.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/364618/p1.jpg
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i want those emblems ! wehre can i get em?
He||hammer 04-20-2007, 09:18 AM BUMP For revival :)
WoodsOfGreenRx8 04-20-2007, 09:43 AM Those are some giant a$$ fog lights
ac3mastuh 04-20-2007, 10:17 AM meh, ill stick with the debadged look
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