ive seen the list of body kit manufacturers but who sells them all and no one makes reference to roof scoops, are they no longer in style? i dig that whole fast and furious look.





ps, about all my previous posts, i got my new body kit, wheels, clear side markers, red racing seats, carbon hood-mirrors-rear wing , and lowering kit all ordered now i just have to wait for them all to arrive, i feel like a giddy little school kid again!!!!! but what really is gonna suck is i am going to wait to put anything on until every piece arrives so i can have it all done at once, cool huh!

Are you going for looks or performance, what are you planning to scope?

more stopping power by the drag from scoop :D

Lame.

Is it a rally car? Did you take out your a/c?

Didn't think so.

For the love of God people, don't do things to this car that are gonna make people ASHAMED to own one... :(

once again
its his car

Yup. People are free to do what they want to their cars, just like I'm free to tell them that they've turned an attractive machine into a hideous monstrosity.

Roof scoop? Can I interest you in some Xtra large side strakes to cool the inside of your trunk as well?

He didn't ask what you thought
He asked if you knew if anyone sells them

No one sells them because they are STUPID.

Why the hell would there be a scoop on a roof??? So the air can have a place to go....where? Is there something in the roof that would benefit from this? NO.

If you're looking to rice up your car wih stuff like this, sell the RX8 and get a Civic.

I'm sure someone sells a universal one but I have no idea where. I dont think its right that people are flaming him because he chose to do something he likes to his car. I'm sure many of you have different opinions on how to mod a car and it should be respected. BTW, my old car was a civic and there is NO shame about driving one;)

actually the scoop looks really good on the car, ive done a rough photoshop of the look and its alot better than you would think, and as to the " buy a civic " comment well to you my friend there are alot of civics out there that would beat the holy pants off of the rx8, in fact i sold my 1998 integra type r for this car and sitting in my garage next to my rx8 is my 2003 lexus is300 so i think i know quite abit about style and performance, the particular look im after on the rx8 requires that of a subtle look on the roof, the scoop i chose is off of a 1960's boss mustang, it is 2.5 inches high and 15 inches wide and will strech a great portion of the roof length, by leaving out the turn indicators on the scoop it allows air to travel straight through it freely, so if you still want to flame on about it, i will take a photo of the car when its all done and you will all see just how good it looks and im willing to bet there will be others who will do it to after seeing the results!

Originally posted by 98TypeR
and as to the " buy a civic " comment well to you my friend there are alot of civics out there that would beat the holy pants off of the rx8

I have no doubt of that. I just seriously doubt it had to do with the roof scoop.

can somebody show me what exactly a roof scoop looks like? is he talking about a hood scoop?

Originally posted by s1mike22
can somebody show me what exactly a roof scoop looks like? is he talking about a hood scoop?

no he is talking about a scoop on top of the roof, like the eclipse in fast and the furious.

Or like any Rally car has. The difference being that in a Rally car there is a damn good reason for it.

On a street car, there is no good reason. Only appearance.

So really, anyone who gives a damn about performance will laugh at this sort of juvenile nonsense.

What I'd really like to know is, where is the best location to mount a large "TYPE-R" sticker on my RX8 ;)

Originally posted by 98TypeR
my friend there are alot of civics out there that would beat the holy pants off of the Rx-8


I'm sorry, not stock for stock.

the civic type r is roughly around 200hp and it is light as hell, it will outrun the RX-8 auto :D

Originally posted by Astor
I'm sorry, not stock for stock.

and weren't there only like 500 put out in the USA

and I don't have the auto

try importfan.com
or extremedimiesions.com
or prototype.com for universal scoops

ok to all those who think roof scoops are stupid, here are a few street legal production cars with roof scoops ( functional yes ) but a roof scoop still the same:

Saleen s7
lamborghini diablo gtr
porsche 911 gt1
mercedes benz clk-gtr
lotus elise gt1
mclaren f1
stealth b6 ( all carbon fiber car, very cool heres a link )

http://www.racecar.co.uk/stealth/introduction.htm

shall i go on.........


so in my opinion, even though not functional, its still a very cool look found only on the rarest most sought after supercars built to date.:D

I'm not arguing a scoop is useless, I'm just trying to get where he is going with it as it pertains to the 8...

the sharp angels of the 8's hood and roof lines i believe would be accentuated nicely by a slim wide roof scoop painted to match the body color. not some big goddy rally style scoop but tasteful, somthimg that would probably go un-noticed unless looked at twice, the saleen s7 is a perfect example of what im talking about when it comes to scoop design. check out the link.

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Saleen@$S7g.html

i would post a pic but i am unsure how.

ok so that link didnt work, go to supercars.net and look at the saleen s7.

Originally posted by 98TypeR
ok to all those who think roof scoops are stupid, here are a few street legal production cars with roof scoops ( functional yes ) but a roof scoop still the same:

Saleen s7
lamborghini diablo gtr
porsche 911 gt1
mercedes benz clk-gtr
lotus elise gt1
mclaren f1
stealth b6 ( all carbon fiber car, very cool heres a link )

http://www.racecar.co.uk/stealth/introduction.htm

shall i go on.........


so in my opinion, even though not functional, its still a very cool look found only on the rarest most sought after supercars built to date.:D

Those are ALL mid-engine cars, and the roof scoop is used to feed air to the engine intake. On rally cars, they serve a completely different purpose - getting cool air to the driver and navigator, since they don't have air conditioning!

I'm sorry, I gotta agree - unless you're converting your RX-8 to mid-engine, then a roof scoop looks as silly as some of those big side vents in front of the rear wheels that other body kits use (again, emulating mid-engine cars). If you were driving a Toyota MR-2, Fiero, or some other REAL mid-engine car, then it's not so bad. If you were even driving a car that rally cars are based on, like a WRX or Evo, then it's not so bad. Otherwise, it's just kinda silly and sad, same as a fake hood scoop.

Then again, what do I know - I thought F&F was the lamest, stupidest movie ever, and figured the cars in F&F were a sad, pathetic joke. :D

Regards,
Gordon

Originally posted by Gord96BRG
Those are ALL mid-engine cars, and the roof scoop is used to feed air to the engine intake. On rally cars, they serve a completely different purpose - getting cool air to the driver and navigator, since they don't have air conditioning!

Thank you! Someone finally spoke some sense in here. :)

Still, most (maybe I'm being overly generous) know there isn't functionality to the hood scoop, but respect the guys opinion on his style. I think the scoops do look cool and offer an aerodynamic - supercar look. I won't put one on myself, but I'd like to see his car when it's done.

Make your comments useful, if he asked about the functionality of the hood scoop, then comment on the functionality of the hood scoop, otherwise you're just "dirtying" up the thread, start a new thread about the functionality of hood scoops.

The more cluttered this forum gets the less useful it is!!!

nicely said landon all you other ppls that dont like the hood scoop then thats koool jus dont like put it against the guy, and yea can you post that "rough" photoshopped pic that you made 98typeR, i perssonaly think that the 8 would look pretty good with it on

I don't know, I guess they've always had usless parts on cars for styling purposes, like the Ram Air on my Firebird, it was supposed to work but didn't. But there were some great fast cars built in the early 70's that didn't have to conform to certain government standards. If you like the way it looks, it is your car.
I'd be damned if anyone told me what to do with mine.

Speaking of styling vs. functionality, the radiator opening on our RX-8's front grill is only about 1/2 functional. The rest of the grill is closed off and the balance of cooling air is drawn from below, so our car's front grill is 1/2 styling gimmick because it needs to look like a member of the Mazda family.

On that line of reasoning, some self-styled purists on this board should rip off their front grills. Please line up.

I wouldn't add a roof scoop myself, but I'd like to see what one looks like tastefully done. Cut the guy some slack.

I

good point

that goes for strakes, clear corners, tint

Originally posted by mikeb
good point

that goes for strakes, clear corners, tint

Nope, those are different - their only purpose is style. Cosmetics only - they're not pretending to be race car parts, and they're not functional on some cars and fake on others. A scoop has a definite function on the mid-engine cars listed - to put a mid-engine roof air intake on a front engine car isn't style, it's silly. When Subaru put a factory hood scoop on their Legacy GT sedans/wagons (96-99), it was just as silly and useless. When Ford and GM put fake scoops on their cars for decades, it was silly and useless. The other term is "poseur" - basically, having a non-functional performance mod. A scoop that doesn't scoop is posing. Whether it is some trend-following factory designer with no imagination (see Pontiacs for dozens of examples), or an individual trying to follow a trend without understanding the original purpose or function doesn't matter.

Regards,
Gordon

gordon
you leave me speechless at this point

i dont really know how to post pics on here but if someone who does know how i will email them the picture, it is rough and when i say rough i do mean rough, and another thing i had to borrow a pic off of this site to do it so i hope whosever car it is doesnt mind. I dont remember where or whos it is sorry.

Originally posted by mikeb
gordon
you leave me speechless at this point

I thought that was pretty clear - style mods (strakes, clear corners, tint, to use your examples) vs. fake non-performance poser pseudo-performance mods (roof scoop, to use the thread topic as an example). They're clearly different.

Look at it this way - I can wear a suit or a tuxedo, or jeans and sweater, as the appropriate situation occurs. Variations in style. However, I'd look like a real ass running around in Superman tights and a cape when it's obvious that I can't fly etc. That's not style, that's posing, and it's just silly. When Superman wears the tights, then it's cool. Consider the fake scoops etc. the equivalent of running around in Superman tights and a cape. ;) Better yet, fit the tights with a lead belt, so that the guy running around in them not only looks silly, he's actually slower than if he was wearing regular clothes. THEN you've got the equivalent of some of the poser pseudo-performance stuff that people tack onto their cars! :D

Regards,
Gordon

Gord, you'll never convince Mikeb of your point...he is blind to reason.
;)

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Strakes and light upgrades aren't pretending to be something they're not. A hood scoop (especially aftermarket) should have some real purpose other than to "look really cool". This type of mod is kind of funny to consider an appearance mod vs. a functional mod.

Every now and then someone starts using the term "ricey" to apply to car mods. Usually, they have no clue what the term was coined to mean, and they use it for anything Japanese that they don't like. If you go back and find the original "riceboy" web page...you'll see that it applies to anything, primarily involving Japanese import cars...where things are added to a car that would indicate performance, but which aren't. Mild cases were "Turbo" decals on non-turbo cars. There were even some fake plastic front-mount intercoolers! THAT is the real meaning behind the term "rice" in this scenario, and that is EXACTLY what putting a functionless roof scoop on a car is accomplishing.

Now, that said, if somebody wants to put that on their car, I completely believe they have the right to do so.

I also believe that, while pointing and laughing might make me a d*ckhead, I have every right to be one of those if I so desire :D

jds

jds

actually about this whole roof scoop thing i was just kidding, in fact i dont really even have a rx-8, i really have a 1998 integra type r # 800 in championship white...hence my name -98 Type R- and i just wanted to raise alittle aggression in this forum, i do work at a mazda dealer though and i do know that my Type R ( stock ) whooped rearend on any and all the rx8's around here and guess what, it doesnt have a roof scoop so ...........



PS I found out about this sight through on of the employees here who owns an rx8 and envy's my Type R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A stock Type-R? Beating up on Rx8's?

LoL! There you go shittin us again just like with the roof scoop :)

Seriously man.. put the bong down. You aren't going to beat up on any RX8's unless the driver of the Mazda is asleep.

Please, you guys are comparing an apple to an orange. Look at the price difference. Grow up and learn to respect all types of cars.

Originally posted by Psylence
A stock Type-R? Beating up on Rx8's?

LoL! There you go shittin us again just like with the roof scoop :)

Seriously man.. put the bong down. You aren't going to beat up on any RX8's unless the driver of the Mazda is asleep.

Originally posted by 98TypeR
actually about this whole roof scoop thing i was just kidding, in fact i dont really even have a rx-8, i really have a 1998 integra type r # 800 in championship white...hence my name -98 Type R- and i just wanted to raise alittle aggression in this forum.

How do you type so well with one hand in your pants, wanker?

Originally posted by 98TypeR
actually about this whole roof scoop thing i was just kidding, in fact i dont really even have a rx-8, i really have a 1998 integra type r # 800 in championship white...hence my name -98 Type R- and i just wanted to raise alittle aggression in this forum, i do work at a mazda dealer though and i do know that my Type R ( stock ) whooped rearend on any and all the rx8's around here and guess what, it doesnt have a roof scoop so ...........



PS I found out about this sight through on of the employees here who owns an rx8 and envy's my Type R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you admit to trolling? Do NOT start flame wars on here. That is also the lamest excuse in the book on forums. "haha, I got you, I don't really [feel/think/own controversial topic] I just wanted to get a rise out of you." How very amusing. Don't do it again.

Here's one for ya!! ;)

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Carscarscars2/TEST.psd.jpg

That's freakin' great!

New wallpaper! Woohoo! :)

Type R's are great cars. I love my 8 but the Type R is a great car.

I drove an Integra Type-R way back when before I got a Boxster.

It was an awesome car. Salesman couldn't drive stick for shit tho. I shamed him horribly.

That bein' said, it's still not going to smoke an 8. But it is still an excellent FWD car.

Originally posted by Psylence
What I'd really like to know is, where is the best location to mount a large "TYPE-R" sticker on my RX8 ;)

At the rear, so your kills can see what beat them. LOL, you don't want them thinking it was the broad power band saving shift times, or the great suspension providing fantastic handling, do you?

If you have the sunroof, then you can add a roof scoop , put the sunroof on tilt, and it will be (somewhat) functional.. right? right?
Alot of people say the AC doesnt cool well anyway! It works too well for me though, i get cold easy.


:)

Originally posted by 98TypeR
and i just wanted to raise alittle aggression in this forum

Try it again and get banned ... clear enough? I don't appreciate punks who come here trying to 'raise aggression'.

if you placed a rear engine inside your 8 or put a turbine in the rear of the car that the airscoop brings air, it would be functional.

Originally posted by 98TypeR
actually about this whole roof scoop thing i was just kidding, in fact i dont really even have a rx-8, i really have a 1998 integra type r # 800 in championship white...hence my name -98 Type R- and i just wanted to raise alittle aggression in this forum, i do work at a mazda dealer though and i do know that my Type R ( stock ) whooped rearend on any and all the rx8's around here and guess what, it doesnt have a roof scoop so ...........



PS I found out about this sight through on of the employees here who owns an rx8 and envy's my Type R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its stupid Honda Owners like you who give Hondas a bad name. Grow up and keep your crap at:

www.HondaIntegraTypeRSXSIGTR16yearoldFastnFuriousl overwhoWishedIHadaRotary.com

Im sure you'd feel at home :) .

I do not envy your Type-R, my friend has one, my other friend has one with its motor in his integra, its still FWD, like to see ya drift that homie...

Its possible to drift an integra, just takes alot of practice. People on Japan do drift with civics and integras. Also, Integras are pretty good cars, they race up against bimmers in the curcuit races.

Originally posted by Efini 8
I do not envy your Type-R, my friend has one, my other friend has one with its motor in his integra, its still FWD, like to see ya drift that homie...

When i first started reading this thread i wanted to reach out and virtually bitchslap someone who would degrade the 8 with such nonsense.

Then i saw he was trolling, and had to laugh at the smackdown the admins gave him...



BTW, nice photochop of the subbie rally 8. :)

And it's not difficult to provoke oversteer in a FWD car with the proper suspension setup, it's just different throttle modulation. :)

FWD CANNOT DRIFT ... its physically impossible, sure they can powerslide, but not DRIFT. Another misconception. I wonder why they dont use Integras and FWD vehicles in D1 Grand Prix... HMMMM!? thats a good questions LOL!

Originally posted by Efini 8
FWD CANNOT DRIFT ... its physically impossible, sure they can powerslide, but not DRIFT. Another misconception. I wonder why they dont use Integras and FWD vehicles in D1 Grand Prix... HMMMM!? thats a good questions LOL!

i always thought that powersliding was a way to induce a drift, much like the E-Brake...i always thought that to powerslide, you enter the corner and you use the throttle to break traction, thus bringing the backend to the outside of the turning circle and the front end pointing to the center...i think you still need a RWD car for this...

You definitely need RWD to drift, maybe not in video games, but the rear wheels spinning under throttle defines the drift. FWD oversteers and you can pseudo drift, but authentic drifting is done with light weight RWD autos, and to be really authentic, it should be Japanese. Now the Japanese didn't invent drifting, but they have turned it into a sport.

Good Drift Cars: Toyota 80's Corolla GT-S (RWD), Supra, RX-7, RX-8 w/o DCS, Toyota AE86 Trueno, R32 GTS-T Skyline (RWD instead of AWD), And the Nissan Silva's (don't sell in USA, or the Skyline for that matter).

Bottom line - a roof scoop is still stupid.

stupid to you not everyone

it might not look too bad actually, and as for the drifting i think rear wheel drive cars truely drift.

Bah

Originally posted by mikeb
stupid to you not everyone

Mike b

The non existing tolerance level by some of the conservative geeks (probably drive AUTOMATICS )TOTALLY SUPRISES ME , dont get me wrong i think there is a need for people to express their individual taste in whatever shape and manner they choose , so all you anal retentive computer geeks let your hair down and dont be so f@#$% BORING .

Every ones got the right to do whatever they want to their rides .

michael

OMG...i just read this thread....first of all everyone is entitled to an opinion if you post on this board be prepared to take flak..that's part of being in a forum, be it constructive or destructive critizism. That's what makes forum's worth a crap.

true it is his car so he can do whatever the hell he wants...

My opinion of it...YOUR A FREAKIN IDIOT...

why put the money into non-functional, never would be functional, stupid looking anyway (on a 8) ROOF SCOOP!.

and as far as starting agression go back and graduate junior high and when your old enough to drive and mature enough to handle adult conversation then come back and provide some useful convo...

and this is the hilarious part....YOU CANNOT DRIFT AN INTEGRA!!!

I owned one and had it modded out as far as possible..(- the roof scoop..lol..maybe i should have added that..) I raced, i won some lost some...but anyway IT does exactly what AStor explained in his reply...it PSEUDO DRIFTS...only because you have to use the E-Brake and that is not a true drift...Now being that I raced and drove this car for 6 years I became quite good at pseudo-drifting and let me tell you, the RX-8 drifts very very well....not being an a$$hole or anything like that...but FWD SUX (in certain perspectives, as in this case) and even though I liked the Integra I thought my GSR being FI'd and all rode and handled way better than your crappy a$$ overpriced, non envious Type-R!

What a waste of thread space...

then again..that was my opinion and everyone knows about those....()o()

Aw man I read 5 pages for nothing!!! That was like a short prison sentence. You just just stole 15 minutes of my life with that bs post! I may as well comment on it so as not to have a total loss.

roof scoops: Fine for cars that are mid engined and need them. Also good for rally cars with no a/c.

hood scoops: Again fine for cars that need them. The T-II RX-7 has its intercooler under there as does the WRX. Fake ones need not apply.

trolling and starting crap on the RX-8 forum: If I ever meet you I am going to bitch slap the V-tec out of you. BTW: I have a 1st gen RX-7 that I'll race your Integra Type R in. How many lengths would you like? I'll even start with the engine off! I hope your snail is bigger than mine!

drifting: If you have to drift around a corner with the emergency brake on, you aren't drifting!

exactly!

Is there such a way to end a post? :p I was just expecting to see a picture or two of a newly riced 8 but gosh darnit you typeR weisenheimer... What a pooper scoupeR!

How about putting a nice cap to this post by really showing an RX-8 with one of these scoups. Anyone with photoshop want to please my fancy?

Itzzzz fassttttttttttt....itzzz furiouzzzzzzzz


ACT DAH FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha you guys are hilaroius. Thank god some of you guys got your head on straight. I was this close to being steered out of buying an Rx8. :D

Ricers like wow. Of course you'd think it looks good type R or else you woudln't be doing it. But what you think is "style" with your orange paint and graphics other may think looks like shit. When you're gangster leaned back in your seat with your ACT THE FOOOOOOOOL music chicks and people aren't starring at your car because it's "stylish", they're looking in disgust.

this thread should die

Personally, I feel that if you dont "need" it, you shouldnt get it. Hood scoops, and god forbid, roof scoops have no purpose on an RX8.

Almost a 6 month old thread brought back to life, is that a record? :)

Actually a stupid 6 month old thread at that.

ok, WHO FOUND THE DEFIBULATOR!!!!!

Whoever brought it back to live, can you please bury it again? would be appreciated.

RICE!

The roof scoop might make for a kick ass hair dryer.

Screw what everyone else says.

I say just do it. It will look damn cool.

It's all about your own style.

I have an open mind, but some people's style should never see the light of day.

wow
this is a flame war
im keeping my mouth shut.

Pardon me for stating the semi obvious but if your heart is set on a roof scoop why not just use a hood scoop?

holy 5 year old thread resurrection batman.

holy 5 year old thread resurrection batman.

LMAO @ reviving a roof scoop thread and

x2 LMAO for me just figuring out the batman term, i always thought batman was a guy who resurected old threads.... just embarrassing.:icon_no2:

this thread... um, yikes.

Well..................it's your car, but I certainly hope you reconsider.