View Full Version : help:want a smidge more bass in my car
TrochoidMagic 12-06-2007, 05:40 AM i'm not a stereo guru here, but i have the GT pkg with the bose 9 speaker system.
its nice and all... but the only dissatisfaction i have is the conservative amount of bass the stock system has. even though the brochure claims it to have something like 300 watts. WTF?
well... my goals are to keep all stock speakers and system and run the most weight efficient way to have a stronger system. any help and tricks would be appreciated. and any tricks where doing so and dropping a couple of pounds would definitely gain my interest.
so far the only thing i have available is a spare sony amplifier my friend gave me before going back to japan. its rather small...but i think its all i need as its intention is not to be a full time blvd cruiser. just need a bit more uummph.
how many channels, i dunno. how many watts, i dunno. whats the model ... i dunno. but, i can find out once i dig it up out of the moving boxes.
please help. i really want to make use of my friend's present and put it to good use. and keep in mind, i want modest enjoyable boost in bass...not looking to blow up speakers.
thanks in advanced audio guru's.
TrochoidMagic 12-06-2007, 05:45 AM that sony amplifier is metallic purple iirc. and behind that glass case it has many adjustments to tune the frequency etc...
hope that helps.
i'm really not that great when it comes to stereos... the only time i've ran a sub and amp was way back in college when most kids just cared about back breaking amounts of bass. thats when i had a kenwood 300watts continuance amp with 10inch JL w6? sub... the big magnet one, you know?
TrochoidMagic 12-06-2007, 06:49 AM calling alll stereo guru's... any out there?
c'mon... i know y'all be all about the ice. can't the all show-no go show the all go-no show a few tricks?
i'm sure we can collaborate to achieve a stealth system.
nuke0907 12-06-2007, 09:19 AM your lack of responses may be due to your inability to search.
Socket7 12-06-2007, 12:48 PM Throw a 10" sub in there with a line output converter connected to the rear speaker channels.
Should be more then enough oomph for you.
To find out how, check the stickies. Theres a whole audio install reference there with all the information you need.
Lack of responses is probably because you didn't even wait a day before bumping your thread. twice.
firebirdude 12-06-2007, 05:36 PM If you're thinking of running that amp to the Bose speakers, stop now. If you're thinking of replacing the Bose speakers with aftermarket to get more bass, stop now. If you're willing to run power wire from the battery, use an aftermarket amp, and buy a decent sub.... then we can talk.
Juice 12-06-2007, 07:56 PM ^^Good Advice. Other than that if you don't want a sub/box/amp combo then you might want something thats already powered. Possible an Infinity Basslink, MTX Thunderlink, or an Alpine PLT5. Another thing is there is no way to get what you wan't without adding weight to your car. I definitely suggest getting a good subwoofer/amp/box but look into those things I said to see if they fit what you would want.
firebirdude 12-06-2007, 08:10 PM A cheap 50W bazooka tube weighs practically nothing and costs like $99. It'll add just a touch more bump. The infinity basslink and MTX offering both weigh a lot more than even the 200W bazooka.
Juice 12-06-2007, 08:50 PM Yeah, I forgot about the bazooka tubes. I've never used any of the bazooka stuff though. Its probably another great option for someone who doesn't want to add alot of weight. I've heard that they have good bass too. All of the "Pre-Packaged" subs seem to get good reviews as well. I'm not a professional though, audio is just a hobby of mine, but I would rather have a nice 8 or 10 in a properly sized box rather than any of those options. I'm not knocking on anyone with the box/sub/amp alternatives, its just not for me.
firebirdude 12-06-2007, 09:03 PM My dad has a 100W tube in his Audi S4. It's too much for him. (59 years old) But he wanted more bass..... I gave him more bass! LOL!
Juice 12-06-2007, 09:35 PM haha, nice:lol2:. I haven't heard a bazooka tube in a few years but it sounded good with my friends stock system. I recently heard a basslink and it sounded pretty nice as well. I think that the powered sub enclosures would be good if added to a stock system for a little more bass and is probably what TrochoidMagic is looking for. But if you replaced the rest of the system with nice quality mids/highs then i don't think that they would be enough. Another good thing about the bazooka and others though, is that it is very easily removed if you want to go get some track time:)
Myardor 12-08-2007, 02:27 AM So how do I connect the Bazooka?
It's a Jensen. no power connection.
Has two black and two red inputs.
So connect them to the rear speakers?
No LOC?
TIA
StealthTL 12-08-2007, 02:35 AM Just use the high-level inputs - speaker level wires in the back, no worries about screwing around with the Bose.....
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Easy_E1 12-08-2007, 03:14 AM Heres some more bass,,,,
http://www.flheritage.com/facts/symbols/images/symbols/bass.jpg
swoope 12-08-2007, 03:16 AM Heres some more bass,,,,
http://www.flheritage.com/facts/symbols/images/symbols/bass.jpg
hit that one out of the park!!!!:lol:
beers:beer:
mbrule6465 12-08-2007, 05:08 AM used low level input at Bose amp beneth rear deck.111741
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HCTR154 12-08-2007, 07:14 AM Infinit Basslink is a something you might want to look into. Much better product than the Bazooka tube in my opinion. Get the 200w model with the remote. I had mine installed at the local Best Buy, so I can't help with install instructions.
firebirdude 12-08-2007, 09:38 AM Much better product than the Bazooka tube in my opinion. I agree however, it's heavier and more expensive. (for a guy who cares about every ounce, as per sig) Circuit City has a bazooka tube for 99 bucks and an amp kit for like 35.
Myardor 12-08-2007, 12:37 PM Well I traded an old pair of 6x9s for the Jensen Bazooka so no money spent.
I don't really want to spend any more monies, I want to use what I have. So forget about any more purchases. No 200watt stuff, no remote, etc. Unless you are willing to send/give it to me free! I thought not!!
Oh I also have a "few" amps somewhere in the garage. All kinds bought over the years.
All I want to connect is the bazooka ( in the trunk)
so connect to which wires?
Those that did the actual installing them selfs, those ppl know what to connect to what.
I think to the rear speaker 6x9 wires in the trunk
Not sure if the low, ie bass has been filtered going into the rear 6x9.
ie it is for mid and the 2 incher is for highs, NO?
If so then I need to tap where the low frequencies are?
Yes, have the Bose system.
TIA...again
TrochoidMagic 12-11-2007, 04:00 AM so thats one way to go about my options huh? pretty much a bazooka tube, and connect to the rear apeaker wires...?
Yeah, I forgot about the bazooka tubes. I've never used any of the bazooka stuff though. Its probably another great option for someone who doesn't want to add alot of weight. I've heard that they have good bass too. All of the "Pre-Packaged" subs seem to get good reviews as well. I'm not a professional though, audio is just a hobby of mine, but I would rather have a nice 8 or 10 in a properly sized box rather than any of those options. I'm not knocking on anyone with the box/sub/amp alternatives, its just not for me.
TrochoidMagic 12-11-2007, 04:07 AM firebird, so for the bazooka, is it a very straight forward install? like what juice talk about, that is the route i'd like to take. maybe just a bazooka tube...what do they weigh?
but anyway, i haven't looked at the stock configuration nor will i see the bigger picture even if i do due to this not being my field of talent. but can the bazooka tube plug right in to the stock speaker wires or spliced... or would it have to be some work to the amp instead?
I agree however, it's heavier and more expensive. (for a guy who cares about every ounce, as per sig) Circuit City has a bazooka tube for 99 bucks and an amp kit for like 35.
Renesis07 12-11-2007, 10:20 AM read my signature, Im running my system with the stock stereo and they go together great!
kimota 12-11-2007, 01:58 PM help:want a smidge more bass in my car
There's no such thing a "smidge more bass" thats like eating one pringles, or having just one bear or slice of pizza for that matter. Like going to the strip club and just having one lap dance, one STD or possibly getting a little pregnant.
I'd suggest you go for a LOT more bass that the way men do it!!!!
firebirdude 12-11-2007, 02:08 PM firebird, so for the bazooka, is it a very straight forward install? Straight forward for you? Or straight forward for me?:lol2: It's pretty much the same as with any other amp sub. Just in a smaller, lighter package. You will be require to run a small power wire from the battery, through the fire wall and into the trunk. (As with any amp) Circuit City has cheap 8 and 10 gauge wiring kits for like $30-$35. Or Wal-Mart even. You're not adding anything huge, so just about any kit will be fine. We have walk-throughs in the stickied threads on how to do it.
The 8" 100W tube weighs 14lbs and the 10" 100W tube weighs 24lbs. The 8" 200W tube weighs 20lbs and the 10" 200W tube weighs 25lbs.
EDIT: Oh and as for tapping into the rear speaker wires, I'm not sure. I've installed 10-15 of these and used a line output converter every time. I will note, however, that the tubes DO come with connection for high-level inputs (speaker leads). So it IS possible to just splice it in.... donno what kind of results you would get though. Also, I tapped into the wires just BEFORE the Bose amp. Very easy and great results. However, I have read of people on here tapping after the amp with good results as well. So.... just telling you what I know.:)
Renesis07 12-11-2007, 03:38 PM find a nice 10 inch sub and get that enclosure that fits custom into the side of the trunk. ( if someone has a link, that would be awesome) that would give you clean bass and a nice clean install.
firebirdude 12-11-2007, 04:09 PM http://www.4080enclosures.com/shop4080/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4
They rock the house. But are going to weigh almost exactly 26 lbs with sub. (Just weighed mine) Still need an amp and must mount the amp somewhere. Yes. It will sound much better than any bazooka tube. But will cost literally 5 times as much.
HCTR154 12-11-2007, 09:04 PM I agree however, it's heavier and more expensive. (for a guy who cares about every ounce, as per sig) Circuit City has a bazooka tube for 99 bucks and an amp kit for like 35.
Well, true, but you do get what you pay for! Also, I don't see how anyone worried about weight can consider any amp/subwoofer, but to each their own. I'm sure my car is heavy for a RX 8, but I drive it for pleasure and don't really care about a few extra pounds. :)
TrochoidMagic 12-12-2007, 01:53 AM FIRE: thanks man... just the answer i've been looking for. and that is most likely what i had in mind of considering. all i really wanted was something that can compliment the stock system and easy as pie to remove. so this will be the perfect mod as i don't really like having a messy car.
and as for the power, a hundred watts all bass is good enough for me. honestly, thats what i was shooting for, and it happens to have the best weight of all 3. i hope it is also the most cost effective approach.
and as for a couple of post earlier... i honestly can enjoy heart-stopping bass, its really massging, but i'm not like in my early 20s anymore. but its not like i hate bass...i've done it. now i would just like to enjoy it in moderation. and if i'm like fuckin 60(sorry, pottymouth) this would even be extreme.
but i get what u mean.
Straight forward for you? Or straight forward for me?:lol2: It's pretty much the same as with any other amp sub. Just in a smaller, lighter package. You will be require to run a small power wire from the battery, through the fire wall and into the trunk. (As with any amp) Circuit City has cheap 8 and 10 gauge wiring kits for like $30-$35. Or Wal-Mart even. You're not adding anything huge, so just about any kit will be fine. We have walk-throughs in the stickied threads on how to do it.
The 8" 100W tube weighs 14lbs and the 10" 100W tube weighs 24lbs. The 8" 200W tube weighs 20lbs and the 10" 200W tube weighs 25lbs.
EDIT: Oh and as for tapping into the rear speaker wires, I'm not sure. I've installed 10-15 of these and used a line output converter every time. I will note, however, that the tubes DO come with connection for high-level inputs (speaker leads). So it IS possible to just splice it in.... donno what kind of results you would get though. Also, I tapped into the wires just BEFORE the Bose amp. Very easy and great results. However, I have read of people on here tapping after the amp with good results as well. So.... just telling you what I know.:)
TrochoidMagic 12-12-2007, 02:04 AM ^^HTCR: i know this post almost seems retarded. thats why i put "just a smidge more bass" and not "please help, want MORE bass".
i don't want an amp, a heavy sub box, or huge 10" sub with a big magnet on the back...
so i think firebird was really helpful in detailing what options i can go for. and i want the system to be easily removeable, and the lightest addition to compliment the stock system...see, here's the thing, i like the stock system BUT i wish it had a lil more bass...say like an extra 100-150watts more bass.
i did not consider tossing my stereo out for pure race car... but wanted a dual purpose for some track time. and i had bad experience with the old car which had the full amp/box/sub pkg...and it was a headache when it came around to some autocrossing. especially when the car needed to be tech'd in order to run.
not only that... the constant removal has damaged the sub and blew out the silicone foam... not pretty to say the least.
sooo..... figure this is the perfect solution. and one i'll try out thats also not overspending for extra power i won't need or use.
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