View Full Version : AT or MT??


photozone
11-30-2007, 05:47 AM
Hello All,

I am new here, plan to buy this car next year, which one should I get, AT or MT?

PitchBlaC
11-30-2007, 09:44 AM
Don't even think about it. Get something else.

photozone
11-30-2007, 09:58 AM
Don't even think about it. Get something else.

Why?

ngkenny
11-30-2007, 10:38 AM
everyone give chance ok...dun whack him....christmas coming already.

photozone.....the question too vague already. like asking nikon and canon...which one better.

your question really has been asked too many times already. read the past threads and you will find the information you want.

photozone
11-30-2007, 11:11 AM
sure..

winn
11-30-2007, 01:16 PM
Hello All,

I am new here, plan to buy this car next year, which one should I get, AT or MT?

Think about it only next year? :yelrotflm

photozone
12-01-2007, 03:58 AM
Think about it only next year? :yelrotflm

never think... plan only.. :lol:

theboy
12-01-2007, 05:23 AM
MT because i regret buying AT
more power
and when u sell the person who buy it wants power too.
but prepare to cram your leg at traffic jam

PitchBlaC
12-01-2007, 10:07 AM
Why?

Simple. So that there will be 1 less 8 on the road.

Fugu
12-02-2007, 12:57 AM
Simple. So that there will be 1 less 8 on the road.

We like to think that we are exclusive on the roads.. so that people will still gawk when they see our rides :Eyecrazy:

wildchilde
12-02-2007, 02:26 PM
Photozone, you might want to think about why you're getting the 8 in the first place. In terms of raw power, there are several other performance car makes out there that beat the 8 in a straight line. But its handling is far superior and is darn nifty in traffic. Take some time to research more about the 8, its specs, read some road test reviews in magazines/online. Overall, it has plenty to offer as a whole. Depends what you're looking for yeah?

photozone
12-05-2007, 05:30 PM
Thanks wildchilde, actually I don't really care about the performance, if I want the performance car, better for me to go for fairlady or evo or others which can give high HP.

To me, why I go for the 8 because of it's look, more practical sports car which can accommodate 4 adults, and also from magazine/online review which gives good remarks.

why I asked about AT or MT, is just to get some feedback, perhaps the pro and cons between AT and MT, etc.. etc..

chao

effie
12-05-2007, 10:12 PM
get the MT..........

Spinning Sushi
12-05-2007, 10:15 PM
You should get the AT because all real racers know that it's faster. Also, a real racer knows that more concentration can be put on driving than shifting. A real racer drives an AT because it can handle up to 500whp. So, in conclusion, if you wan to be a real racer like Vin Diesel then get an AT!

coupe07
12-05-2007, 10:16 PM
Thanks wildchilde, actually I don't really care about the performance, if I want the performance car, better for me to go for fairlady or evo or others which can give high HP.

To me, why I go for the 8 because of it's look, more practical sports car which can accommodate 4 adults, and also from magazine/online review which gives good remarks.

why I asked about AT or MT, is just to get some feedback, perhaps the pro and cons between AT and MT, etc.. etc..

chao
u have answered ur own question.... u want the looks, u dun need the performance...

Brettus
12-05-2007, 11:03 PM
I'll put you out of your misery

The MT owns the AT bigtime acceleration wise . If you want performance the MT is the only choice . If you just want to cruise then the AT is ok for that .

wildchilde
12-06-2007, 06:45 AM
Thanks wildchilde, actually I don't really care about the performance, if I want the performance car, better for me to go for fairlady or evo or others which can give high HP.

To me, why I go for the 8 because of it's look, more practical sports car which can accommodate 4 adults, and also from magazine/online review which gives good remarks.

why I asked about AT or MT, is just to get some feedback, perhaps the pro and cons between AT and MT, etc.. etc..

chao

Hey...no problems mate. Don't think I need to tell you the pros and cons of stick driving vs automatic driving in terms of driver comfort/convenience based on your requirements. It also depends what specs the dealer you're getting your car from can offer. ATs come with smaller 16" rims and non-performance tuned suspension if you're getting the base model. Sports Type Es have upsized rims (18") and sports suspension. The 6MT Type S comes with 18" rims and sports suspension in its stock form. The AT also has paddle shifters which can be fun. And if you like to "zhng" your ride, go for the MT...there are more upgrade options/more tangible performance gains. You also won't have to worry about ATF issues with an MT.

Cheers

littletonysg
12-06-2007, 09:46 PM
Thanks wildchilde, actually I don't really care about the performance, if I want the performance car, better for me to go for fairlady or evo or others which can give high HP.

To me, why I go for the 8 because of it's look, more practical sports car which can accommodate 4 adults, and also from magazine/online review which gives good remarks.

why I asked about AT or MT, is just to get some feedback, perhaps the pro and cons between AT and MT, etc.. etc..

chao

bro RX8 also can give high HP, but you just need the correct mods to do that, anyway all cars also have to do mods in the end. :)

AT has its benefits and MT has theirs, if you really want; i suggest you go test drive both transmission and at the end you'll have your ans on which 1 is more suitable for you. for me i choose AT coz my wife also drives, if not i would have taken MT, but at the end of the day i found out that AT also has its benefits, wat kind of benefits you have to test drive and find out lah. cheers :)

photozone
12-07-2007, 12:04 PM
bro RX8 also can give high HP, but you just need the correct mods to do that, anyway all cars also have to do mods in the end. :)

AT has its benefits and MT has theirs, if you really want; i suggest you go test drive both transmission and at the end you'll have your ans on which 1 is more suitable for you. for me i choose AT coz my wife also drives, if not i would have taken MT, but at the end of the day i found out that AT also has its benefits, wat kind of benefits you have to test drive and find out lah. cheers :)

noted,

ya lah... will test drive both AT and MT before making the decision...

anyways.. thank to all

Leesha
12-07-2007, 12:28 PM
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245/Leesha_023/Shifters.jpg

We have the shifters and the MT doesn't... ;)

I must admit though it feels more like a race car in manual. I love driving in manual mode...

wen pin
12-10-2007, 01:45 AM
MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT............:lol:

LateralSpeed
12-10-2007, 02:00 AM
You should get the AT because all real racers know that it's faster. Also, a real racer knows that more concentration can be put on driving than shifting. A real racer drives an AT because it can handle up to 500whp. So, in conclusion, if you wan to be a real racer like Vin Diesel then get an AT!

:lol: :pat:

MT no contest, only go with AT if you just want to cruise around and don't have any desire for speed.

csl
12-10-2007, 05:47 AM
:evil_laug :evil_laug :evil_laug

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p221/malangsia/Shifters.jpg

csl
12-10-2007, 05:55 AM
RX8 is a good car, as I got 1. But cannot refuse that the cost of fixing the problem below will make one's wallet bleeds (mine bled until dry) . Please search for 2nd engine club or 3rd engine club in this forum. Probably you are rich enough to spare some engines at your house's back yard. But to let you know this, just in case you like to red line the engine all the time, just like me :D

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p221/malangsia/DSC04454.jpg

Fugu
12-10-2007, 06:00 AM
RX8 is a good car, as I got 1. But cannot refuse that the cost of fixing the problem below will make one's wallet bleeds (mine bled until dry) . Please search for 2nd engine club or 3rd engine club in this forum. Probably you are rich enough to spare some engines at your house's back yard. But to let you know this, just in case you like to red line the engine all the time, just like me :D

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p221/malangsia/DSC04454.jpg

Bro! Whats the mileage on your car for the engine to turn out that way? And what problem is it anyway? Care to share more please?

csl
12-10-2007, 06:24 AM
On the meter 24k. Rev 10k rpm (1st and 2nd gear) 9.5k rpm (3rd and 4th) on a highway, for about 1 hour+. Of cause, got slow down due to traffic, but rev again when the road was clear. Root cause still don't know. But this happen to many people in this forum. Looks like it is common. I guest it won't happen if you drive nicely (no guaranty :D ).

Please don't side track. This thread is about AT or MT :D

sqflyer
12-10-2007, 07:10 AM
csl, the way you abuse your engine, it's no surprise that you needed a new one. In fact, it's quite a miracle that it's only your 2nd engine. If you like to rev so high, get a sports bike - 18K redline. Actually, I think you'll probably rev it to 20K and blow that too.

ngkenny
12-10-2007, 08:21 AM
yeah man....redline is one thing. BUT dragging past the red line...and 1hr+ at that is another. Me think sports bike also not enough redline. maybe F1 car can make u a happy man, no?

oh....root cause of it....pretty obvious isn't it. Car not enough redline for you.

Khairain
12-10-2007, 08:27 AM
yup!

fast = manual

cruise = auto

coupe07
12-10-2007, 09:10 AM
On the meter 24k. Rev 10k rpm (1st and 2nd gear) 9.5k rpm (3rd and 4th) on a highway, for about 1 hour+. Of cause, got slow down due to traffic, but rev again when the road was clear. Root cause still don't know. But this happen to many people in this forum. Looks like it is common. I guest it won't happen if you drive nicely (no guaranty :D ).

Please don't side track. This thread is about AT or MT :D
ya, agree with flyer... u r lucky thats only ur 2nd engine...

The way u whack u engine...... no wonder ur engine gone...

Rotary is meant to rev... but not to 10k rpm or 9.5krpm...

Fugu
12-10-2007, 01:47 PM
On the meter 24k. Rev 10k rpm (1st and 2nd gear) 9.5k rpm (3rd and 4th) on a highway, for about 1 hour+. Of cause, got slow down due to traffic, but rev again when the road was clear. Root cause still don't know. But this happen to many people in this forum. Looks like it is common. I guest it won't happen if you drive nicely (no guaranty :D ).

Please don't side track. This thread is about AT or MT :D

Wah kao brother! Pretty excessive don't you think? Now I am not so worried about my own engine.. since I'm not half as insane as you are :lol:

csl
12-10-2007, 03:38 PM
:lol:

Revving high not necessary will make the engine blow so soon. There are so many reasons. Including carbon lock. But I'm sure if you drive at 2-3k rpm, the engine may last for a very long time.

sqflyer
12-10-2007, 04:54 PM
Revving high not necessary will make the engine blow so soon.Yes, but you are not "revving high".. instead you are frequently "over-revving" your engine for lengthy periods of time. Seems like you don't know how or don't want to keep your engine healthy. And no, dropping your oil pan for an oil change does nothing to improve the condition of your engine.

csl
12-10-2007, 10:15 PM
Yes, but you are not "revving high".. instead you are frequently "over-revving" your engine for lengthy periods of time. Seems like you don't know how or don't want to keep your engine healthy. And no, dropping your oil pan for an oil change does nothing to improve the condition of your engine.

Honestly, now I'm testing the limit of the engine. Will let you know how long it can last. The RE rebuilt engine start use at about 24200km. Now about 26800km. Driving style no change. But add 2T. If proven to be that easy to blow, I'll sent my ecu to limit the rev to 9k rpm :)

Look at the picture, do you think it was due to over rev?


I think we should argue else where on this issue (you can dig back the old thread). Just let our friend know if the engine blow, how much would it cost. Let him to be prepared in stead of assuming that the engine will last forever. Overhaul will cost about the same too :) . The $$ different with piston engine overhauling is way too big. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Swerve76
12-10-2007, 11:44 PM
:evil_laug :evil_laug :evil_laug

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p221/malangsia/Shifters.jpg

LOL great pic :lol:

coupe07
12-11-2007, 05:14 AM
:lol:

Revving high not necessary will make the engine blow so soon. There are so many reasons. Including carbon lock. But I'm sure if you drive at 2-3k rpm, the engine may last for a very long time.

VERY WRONG too to assume if drive at 2-3k rpm engine will last forever.....

carbon lock becos of wrong engine oil and lack of high revs (take note its high rev, not over rev)

coupe07
12-11-2007, 05:16 AM
Honestly, now I'm testing the limit of the engine. Will let you know how long it can last. The RE rebuilt engine start use at about 24200km. Now about 26800km. Driving style no change. But add 2T. If proven to be that easy to blow, I'll sent my ecu to limit the rev to 9k rpm :)

Look at the picture, do you think it was due to over rev?


I think we should argue else where on this issue (you can dig back the old thread). Just let our friend know if the engine blow, how much would it cost. Let him to be prepared in stead of assuming that the engine will last forever. Overhaul will cost about the same too :) . The $$ different with piston engine overhauling is way too big. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ADD 2T?????!!!!!! very "interesting"... wat else did u add???

Overhaul is really cheaper than a new engine, FYI....

Fugu
12-11-2007, 06:50 AM
Honestly, now I'm testing the limit of the engine. Will let you know how long it can last. The RE rebuilt engine start use at about 24200km. Now about 26800km. Driving style no change. But add 2T. If proven to be that easy to blow, I'll sent my ecu to limit the rev to 9k rpm :)

Look at the picture, do you think it was due to over rev?


I think we should argue else where on this issue (you can dig back the old thread). Just let our friend know if the engine blow, how much would it cost. Let him to be prepared in stead of assuming that the engine will last forever. Overhaul will cost about the same too :) . The $$ different with piston engine overhauling is way too big. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Why are you risking the cost/s of overhauling/changing the engine for the sake of testing the limit of the engine? Don't be mistaken.. I am interested to know too.. but I am curious why you are willing to waste the $$ to find out how much you can push?

csl
12-11-2007, 04:29 PM
ADD 2T?????!!!!!! very "interesting"... wat else did u add???

Overhaul is really cheaper than a new engine, FYI....

Roughly what price? And what scope include? Thanks

csl
12-11-2007, 05:16 PM
Why are you risking the cost/s of overhauling/changing the engine for the sake of testing the limit of the engine? Don't be mistaken.. I am interested to know too.. but I am curious why you are willing to waste the $$ to find out how much you can push?

That's the reason why I bought RX8. If just for the sake of driving fast only, I would go for S15, GTT or even STi which have better acceleration or someone call it the 'pick-up' feel. The joy of owning a car is not limited for the driving pleasure. But also the process of modifying/upgrade it, experiment and etc. Club and tt included as well. There are thousand of people who are more crazy than me out there. Go to tech garage or after market mod and you can find a lot.

Freestyle
12-12-2007, 12:34 AM
Yo CSL, what have you been smokin' to rev the Renesis so high for extended time? :)

Seriously all engines have their rev limits, including F1 cars. Even Takumi's AE86 original engine blew when he took it beyond what it was supposed to do. 99% of us on the forum have no issues of engine blowing up, if you watch and listen to the rev limit warning. On the contary, limiting revs to 2k RPM will definitely lead to carbon lock and expensive repairs.

I think the RX-8 is a fun car... rev it up to a safe limit from time to time to free up the engine, but dun over-do it lah... all engines have limits! :)

csl
12-12-2007, 02:06 AM
Used to trash my Mivec those days and hard to change now :) . If I found the limit, it will be very useful for those who like to join those track day events. I'm away from the country most of the time. So, once got chance, sure rev like nobody business :lol: . Of cause, only when the road is clear. Night time and raining days will not do that. The salesman (my friend) was right. Never get an auto. Else, better buy a used SLK or 4 door Skyline. The joy of a MT RX8 is great.

Fugu
12-12-2007, 03:45 AM
That's the reason why I bought RX8. If just for the sake of driving fast only, I would go for S15, GTT or even STi which have better acceleration or someone call it the 'pick-up' feel. The joy of owning a car is not limited for the driving pleasure. But also the process of modifying/upgrade it, experiment and etc. Club and tt included as well. There are thousand of people who are more crazy than me out there. Go to tech garage or after market mod and you can find a lot.

Hmm.. everyone defines pleasure differently.. Keep us posted on the things that you test with your 8 okay? Very interested to know the outcome..

Cromax
12-12-2007, 03:49 AM
For the record, I'd choose MT over AT anyday! I had an AT in my first car and I'll never go back again unless I have to!

delhi
12-12-2007, 06:57 PM
MT unless you don't have a left leg.
Auto in an RX-8 is a mistake.