Swap 4 Rotary into Rx 8 [Archive]

Ike

10-08-2007, 05:49 PM

Good lcuk with that. what i wanna know is where are you getting this motor from. talk about 1 of the hardest motor to find on the planet

Exactly my point... Something tells me that someone that doesn't realize it's a 4 ROTOR not a 4 rotary will never be able to find one let alone make the build happen.

DK, or should I call you Drift King? Do you have an extra 100K+ sitting around? Because that's probably about what it would take to even consider making this happen.

Uncivilizedracer

10-08-2007, 05:58 PM

http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg03.htm Seeing that they stopped production plus the factor that the engine bay room would not support this motor with out tearing up the inside of your car or extending the front end about a foot and a half, i would love to see your progress if you actually manage to obtain the motor. I have never seen or heard of it being installed in a RX7 let alone a RX8

shaunv74

10-08-2007, 06:00 PM

Nalin...

dillsrotary

10-08-2007, 06:07 PM

the engine alone is 40k

chrism

10-08-2007, 06:11 PM

im gonna install a 4 pie into my car.....its deeelicious

Uncivilizedracer

10-08-2007, 06:24 PM

LOL i bet

rglbegl

10-08-2007, 06:33 PM

Nalin...

:rollingla :rollingla :rollingla

jones75254

10-08-2007, 07:43 PM

:eyetwitch

tajabaho1

10-08-2007, 09:08 PM

leave him alone, you sound like my friend, kid, that told me he's gonna swap in a 20b for 7.5k..............if this is truely kid, dude, please please stop embarrassing yourself

rotaryturtle

10-08-2007, 09:20 PM

leave him alone, you sound like my friend, kid, that told me he's gonna swap in a 20b for 7.5k..............if this is truely kid, dude, please please stop embarrassing yourself

you can swap a 20b for 7.5k........if the 20b is free

DK RX 8

10-08-2007, 10:00 PM

6speedRenesis

10-08-2007, 10:05 PM

is yous from the russias, or is me just hards of readings?

8 Maniac

10-08-2007, 10:07 PM

Cody Red

10-08-2007, 10:09 PM

Hey Guys

I know some of those guys can't believe what i will do for my faith, I want to success in my 8 project and let's me handle my business with 4 rotary project maybe i can talk to mazda factory or buyin from some one i don t care how far it is and i keep my lucky with me and i will keep my faith with me.

DK RX 8

well first you should start by calling it 4 rotor, not 4 rotary.

second, you're talking about 50k for this kind of project because i don't think obtaining one would be anywhere near easy, so doing a custom job would be your only shot. was it like 10k for a custom e-shaft for the scoot fd?

idk, gl nalin.

SayNoToPistons

10-08-2007, 11:33 PM

Do you even know what a 4 rotor engine consist of? Do you know what a rotary engine is?

Ike

10-09-2007, 12:08 AM

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=108549&stc=1&d=1191906506

8 Maniac

10-09-2007, 12:18 AM

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/CC-Lemon/Thread-I_like_where_this_thread_is_.jpg

tajabaho1

10-09-2007, 12:37 AM

^ I like it too :)

zoom44

10-09-2007, 10:20 AM

½mv²

10-09-2007, 11:19 AM

OK DK, I'm going to give you the benifit of the doubt on all of this...

I'm going to assume...
...that your bad grammar is due to English not being your primary language
...your eagerness to do this is because you feel you've got enough time & money to accomplish it
...your lack of rotary knowledge isn't as bad as it seems
...you realize the amount of customization involved, and know good fabricators who are willing to help you.

Given all that, here's my advice to you:
- Give up looking for a 4 rotor engine. You're not going to find one. Even if you somehow do, it's going to be ungodly expensive, and there are probably only 10 mechanics on the planet that can help you with the install & tune.
- Find an empty 8 frame and start from there. A 4 rotor will never fit in the engine bay as-is. Your best bet would be to start from the ground up. Make good friends with an engineer because lots of carving will be involved, and you do NOT want to lose structural integrity with that much power.
- Research the Susuki Escudo. Somehow they mounted twin V6 turbocharged motors - one in front, one in back - to build a "V12 TT" rally car. 4rotors have never been done on street cars before, so a twin-Renisis setup might be the cheapest option. I recommend the Escudo method because you've got 2 seats and a decent trunk in the RX8 that could easily house another 13b. Trying to line up 2 motors in the front of the car would be nearly impossible, as well as SEVERELY throw off the weight balance of the car. Placing a second motor midship would comprimise handling less than any other method.

...and if you are just a kid with outrageous hopes and dreams, face the facts and realize that faith is going to accomplish nothing here.

Rootski

10-09-2007, 11:27 AM

8 Maniac

10-09-2007, 11:37 AM

dk - where do you live?

how much money do you have?

i know where there are at least 2 4 rotors just sitting in a corner at a shop in the eastern US and im pretty sure i could point you to 3 on the west coast

Was going to mention that someone like you or RG might know more about it but didnt wanna say it without being sure... guess I was right.

Anyways, if he has the money and time to put into this, then it'll be a very interesting process. Even if he doesnt have a place in mind to do the work, there are members here with plenty of knowledge to help. I dont know about you guys, but if he's serious about this, I'd really like to see this happen (out of interest mind you, not doubt).

btw zoom44, just for general knowledge on the forum... how much would you be looking to spend to buy one of those 4 rotor engines? Not that most of us could afford it, but just so we know...

Uncivilizedracer

10-09-2007, 11:42 AM

LOL - Today was knowledge for your 4 rotor motor install day - HOpe you enjoyed it !!!

Jedi54

10-09-2007, 01:43 PM

this would be a VERY expensive swap. I hope you know what you're getting into...

zoom44

10-09-2007, 01:56 PM

i didnt say any of them were for sale and i doubt they are. but i mean if hes the son of some sheik in dubai....

DK RX 8

10-09-2007, 01:58 PM

SayNoToPistons

10-09-2007, 02:01 PM

So.... Why do you want one?

Red Devil

10-09-2007, 02:03 PM

If you were really serious, you'd contact Mazmart and Racing Beat and go from there...

zoom44

10-09-2007, 02:09 PM

ding a ding a ding a ding ding ding ding unfortunately Red Devil you forgot to phrase your answer in the form of a question giving the others a chance to steal.

DK where are you located? i dont mean your street address just general locale and spit it out- how much money do you have to put into this project?

Ike

10-09-2007, 02:10 PM

Hey Guys

Alot of guys don't know about me, Well I'm a deaf guy that's why i have a bad grammar because english ain't my first language it's my second language, My first language is A.S.L. ( American Sign Language ) I'm so apologize about it.

I have alot of money to hold for 4 rotor i want 26B and i want success in my process and i'm work on to get 4 rotor if any guys can help me and find one thanks

DK RX 8

I can't for the life of me figure out how being deaf would cause someone to have bad grammar, but ok.

You still haven't answered the question. Do you have over 100k to put into this build?

½mv²

10-09-2007, 02:16 PM

I can't for the life of me figure out how being deaf would cause someone to have bad grammar, but ok.
There are no signs for smaller, extremely common words. If 90% of the time he's communicating with other people he's able to leave certain words out and ignore the standard rules of grammar, when he starts typing, he'll type things out the same way he's used to "saying" them.

Red Devil

10-09-2007, 02:17 PM

Uncivilizedracer

10-09-2007, 02:21 PM

*Crushed*

½mv²

10-09-2007, 03:33 PM

*Crushed*

...what?

Jethro Tull

10-09-2007, 03:34 PM

Even if he's got the money, the means, and the engine, the 8 just isn't the chassis for this project.

May as well just weld a JATO bottle to the top of a car...and we all know how that one turned out...

Uncivilizedracer

10-09-2007, 03:40 PM

Hopes and dreams of getting that 4 rotor are CRUshed

Rootski

10-09-2007, 03:45 PM

If you were really serious, you'd contact Mazmart and Racing Beat and go from there...

Actually, if he were really serious, he'd get a car that could hold it.

Red Devil

10-09-2007, 04:10 PM

Actually, if he were really serious, he'd get a car that could hold it.

Not sure that I agree you couldn't modify the 8 to hold it.

CnnmnSchnpps

10-09-2007, 05:05 PM

Interesting... If the OP actually pulls this off, he will have a truly unique car...

Please do document your progress if you decide to move ahead with this...

khronus79

10-09-2007, 09:55 PM

khronus79

10-09-2007, 10:04 PM

By the way here's the link to hurleyrotary, look all the way at the bottom, they offer a six rotor engine, that's right SIX ROTOR:
http://www.hurleyrotary.com/page.php?currentpageref=6265

Also check this one from scoot sports from japan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZL-GGbA4s

Also Mazsport.com out of Australia does some crazy stuff, like a 4rotor on a BMW
http://www.mazsport.com/
http://www.mazdarotary.net/queenstbmw.htm

One more out of Orlando, FL
http://www.amvracing.com/20080_397.asp

tajabaho1

10-09-2007, 10:07 PM

in Japan, people have done a 4 rotor swap by putting 2 13B-REWs together, but they couldn't fit that into a convetional car, they did put it in an FD, bmw 335i etc etc though, plenty of vids on you tube

Khronus, we are being dead serious, get 100k+ or its not going to happen, I'm serious, because 50-60k will get you in a gigantic and fiery crash because your car will suck after that, might not even be able to go straight in a line, everything will be fucked up, you will have to strip everything, reinforce the chassis with streel braided cages and roll bars, every fucking thing, go wide body to support the weight........omfg, the list goes on and on, can't you just go buy a lambo? god

8 Maniac

10-09-2007, 10:15 PM

I'm no expert by any means, in fact I'm barely able to change my own oil, but 100K for a 4rotor swap????? give me a break, just because the guy wants a 4rotor engine doesn't mean he HAS to get one of the few mazda built for the 787B. Can he just put 2 13b together like many other people have done????
Also I don't see why it wouldn't fit??? does any1 has any measurements on the 26b??? According to HurleyRotary out of the UK a 20b(or adding a 3rd rotor to a 13b) only adds less than 5in to the total length of the engine so wouldn't a 4th rotor add another 5in or 10in total(from 13b to 26b)?????
There's a few places around the world that would make you a 26b, and I can assure you none of the will ask you for 100k, I'm not saying putting a 26b on an 8 is cheap, but I really don't think it'll run all the way to 100k, I'll say 50k, 60k tops.
Like I said, I'm no expert but by reading some of the answers it sounds like it's impossible in every way imaginable.

you dont just buy the engine and finish... I dont know exactly how tight of a fit a 3 rotor is, but it's not exactly roomy. Also, no you cant just stick 2 13B together. that's the basic concept, but not the end of the process. The eccentric shaft would have to be custom made and it'd have to be very well made. There'd also be a lot of custom fabrication that would go into it. If it required no real modification to the frame or anything like that, your estimate might be accurate, but if it gets into something such as frame work, then it's going to cost a lot to do right.

Another issue to mention that I dont think has been brought up. Does the OP realize he will not be passing emissions if that's a requirement? And I can only assume gas mileage is not an issue...

CnnmnSchnpps

10-09-2007, 10:17 PM

Everyone has a lambo :)

But seriously, if you relocate the rad our engine bay looks like it has tons of space...

Easy_E1

10-09-2007, 10:17 PM

I somehow get the impression he want's the real thing,,,,

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/Easy_E1/cat/4rotor.jpg

All it takes is money. Lets see some action.

machfive

10-10-2007, 05:01 AM

He sounds like Borat.

636

10-10-2007, 05:19 AM

Lol hate to be a jerk but i had to say it , if you're deaf how would u hear the 4 rotor sound? Thats one of the best sounds u will hear in ur life. Its like saying OMG i want a wife with huge jugs , but dude , i got no hands! hahahahaha.

SayNoToPistons

10-10-2007, 07:57 AM

Use your mouth!

Well, if he wants a 4 rotor rx8 and he has a boat load of cash, he can get a 4 rotor rx8.

khronus79

10-10-2007, 12:02 PM

you dont just buy the engine and finish... I dont know exactly how tight of a fit a 3 rotor is, but it's not exactly roomy. Also, no you cant just stick 2 13B together. that's the basic concept, but not the end of the process. The eccentric shaft would have to be custom made and it'd have to be very well made. There'd also be a lot of custom fabrication that would go into it. If it required no real modification to the frame or anything like that, your estimate might be accurate, but if it gets into something such as frame work, then it's going to cost a lot to do right.

Another issue to mention that I dont think has been brought up. Does the OP realize he will not be passing emissions if that's a requirement? And I can only assume gas mileage is not an issue...

I know you need an eccentric shaft, that's why I posted the links to the sites they all make them, AMV racing makes a 4rotor shaft for less than 8K. I also know you don't just super glue the 13bs together, but all in all 100K is just 2 much for that much you can def. get that six rotor engine in Hurley Rotary into the 8. I say go for it, post your progress and let us know the step by step cost of the project, once that 1st one is done, more will follow.

VarneyMazda

10-10-2007, 12:26 PM

dk = drift king..

you rice noob.

Jethro Tull

10-10-2007, 12:45 PM

I somehow get the impression he want's the real thing,,,,All it takes is money. Lets see some action.

Easy, is that photo the one in the Mazda museum? Sweet.

But the oil filter is still a pain.

636

10-10-2007, 04:44 PM

.........................

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.............. .hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :icon_bs: , why the hell would u put a 4 rotor in an rx8 , if you had the time , knowledge and money , you would know that you shouldnt have a fully built car for this type of thing , build it from ground up. Hes probably gonna say its his daily driver too , omg what a tard...im sorry , he just seems like such a initial D kid , or even worse... need for speed.

DK RX 8

10-10-2007, 07:15 PM

Hey 8 Guys

I know how crazy i am and i'm so nut because i'm a Drift King and i wanna my car goin crazy like hell and i want to sucess in my process, Let's me handle my business if i can t get 26B then i will go for 20B

DK RX 8

tajabaho1

10-10-2007, 08:09 PM

just tell me this, where are you located at, because you seriously sound like a borat

SayNoToPistons

10-10-2007, 08:11 PM

tajabaho1

10-10-2007, 08:36 PM

^ and alot more problems

DK RX 8

10-10-2007, 09:01 PM

Hey

I located in Canada, Ontario, City London

tajabaho1

10-10-2007, 09:02 PM

oh I see, ok, that pretty much..........explains it

nate340

10-10-2007, 10:04 PM

awww damn his from Canada. it's getting harder and harder to be a proud Canadian

Uncivilizedracer

10-11-2007, 10:32 AM

So much hostility here

rotary crazy

10-11-2007, 03:07 PM

PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

Doing a 4 rotor its not the end of the world, you can put the block togheter for less than $20,000, the hard part for me its the ECU set up,if we had good ECU programers in my country my car would have a 4 rotor a long time ago

go to ausrotary.com there are more than 50 4 rotor cars in australia

the real thing is why? why would you spend the money when you can make the same amount of power for a fraction, a side port 26b would have about 400 RWHP you can get that out of a 13b with a big turbo kit!! an a PP can get up to 600 rwhp but it would not be a good street car

Im doing a 20b swap into my car right now, it is much cheaper than most people say it is, if you go turbo its a little more but I havent decidet to go turbo or NA

valpac

10-11-2007, 06:41 PM

Here, lemme help you out a little.

BigRed

10-11-2007, 07:00 PM

noice^

DK RX 8

10-11-2007, 08:18 PM

Hey Valpac

Is that your engine ? r u sell it ?

DK RX 8

CnnmnSchnpps

10-11-2007, 08:23 PM

Here, lemme help you out a little.

GIMME!

khronus79

10-11-2007, 09:54 PM

Hey valpac, if that's your engine, can you give us some measurements????

kersh4w

10-11-2007, 11:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au7F2ttEXWU&mode=related&search=

sweet.

SilentSpring

10-12-2007, 09:26 AM

You probably won't be able to find a complete 4 rotor for sale. A kit would probably be the easiest route to go and will set you back $9,500. With the price of housings and side plates I would say estimate on about 20-25K for the motor. Getting it to fit I'm sure could be done, though the subframe crossmember will need to be moved forward and since you'll need a custom oil pan anyway you could probably squeeze it in.

Here's a little something to help you out Linky (http://www.kiwi-re.com/wwd_showroom_cat10_2.php).

Good luck!

StewC625

10-12-2007, 09:30 AM

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=108549&stc=1&d=1191906506

Ok, I'm reading this thread while partiicipating in a conf call and I just inappropriately snorted while I supressed a laugh over that photo. OMG that's hiliarous!

Ricer meets Engrish!

valpac

10-12-2007, 11:08 AM

Hey Valpac

Is that your engine ? r u sell it ?

DK RX 8

If it was mine it wouldnt be sitting on a cart. Sorry.

rotary crazy

10-12-2007, 12:55 PM

CnnmnSchnpps

10-12-2007, 01:21 PM

http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/4rotor.html

Uncivilizedracer

10-12-2007, 03:46 PM

http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/4rotor.html

Damn now thats some real info right there i hope anyone took out the time to read that, took that guy a long time just to get it to work. Not to mention he had the resources,and the funds Judging by what your asking its just a thought as of now and you have no clue how your going to even going to obtain the motor in the first place, if anything i would just go with a 3 rotor and turbo the hell out of it

_Logan_

01-27-2008, 03:58 PM

Hmm, I went to the drags yesterday and there were at least 3 quadrotors there, the mazsport bmw and 2 fd's (i forget who they were)

If you can fit a quadrotor in an FD i dont see why you couldnt do it in an rx8

The problem the quadrotor guys seem to have is trying to tune them

kersh4w

01-27-2008, 04:10 PM

pics.

EdwardsB

01-27-2008, 04:36 PM

^ I have seen a videos of a bmw and a 3rd gen with 4 rotors...

GiN

01-27-2008, 05:51 PM

I think you'd spend 20K in electronics and tuning alone once you get the motor IN the car. Hell race teams spend that much about that much to get the same on pushrod V8's nowadays.

Mazmart

03-24-2008, 02:06 PM

Here, lemme help you out a little.

That motor looks familiar. I can't say where I may have seen it before :) .

Paul.

superglue

03-24-2008, 05:10 PM

That motor looks familiar. I can't say where I may have seen it before :) .

Paul.

That would have caught a premium a week before Race Wars :)

Bester

03-24-2008, 06:11 PM

A turbo 20B isnt enough???

rx8boy000

03-25-2008, 12:51 AM

I've already decided that I'm gonna try and drop an LS2 engine in mine when it's hooped, I've seen it done on RX-7's sure it'll be a bit of work but i've heard it's possible.

DK RX 8

03-25-2008, 08:30 AM

Hey Guys

I just make my final decided on 4 rotor motor project set up, I'm goin to order two 13B or wait untill new 16X come out then i will order Two 16X rotor motor to make them in one!

DK RX 8

CnnmnSchnpps

03-25-2008, 08:57 AM

what's your budget? :Eyecrazy:

swiftrx8

03-25-2008, 09:11 AM

Damn Mazda, they need to make this happen. A 20B Renesis theoretically could produce about 350 crank HP in it's stock form. That would be a nice RX8! I hope one day I have a ton of money as the 4 rotor is very appealing and isn't a crazy idea. A N/A 4 rotor would be nice, you could have tons of reliability (if it was tunned and set up right) and produce tons of HP w/o the need of FI. 2.6L isn't big by any standards, I'm tired of Mazda's B.S. with this 1.3L design. The renesis would be nice in a go kart or a Lotus Elise but they should scrap this 1.6L concept and go bigger. Add at least a 3rd rotor!!!! I love the renesis engine but the RX8 is too heavy of a platform in my opinion. If the car was around 2000 lbs it would be a total blast. Not that the RX8 is bad, but it just seems they could have done more.

Brettus

03-25-2008, 09:32 AM

Hey Guys

I just make my final decided on 4 rotor motor project set up, I'm goin to order two 13B or wait untill new 16X come out then i will order Two 16X rotor motor to make them in one!

DK RX 8

2 x 13B OR two x 16x is your FINAL decision ?
If that is your final decision what is your final final decision ?

Shaun called it - this has Nalin written all over it .....

CnnmnSchnpps

03-25-2008, 09:43 AM

"Is that your final answer?"

:lol2:

SideOfBacon

03-25-2008, 09:53 AM

"Is that your final answer?"

:lol2:

I'd like to phone a friend

CyberPitz

03-25-2008, 10:52 AM

I heard all you need to do is epoxy two 13B engines together and it will work just fine!

kersh4w

03-25-2008, 10:57 AM

no no no no, not even that.

the rotors go together like legos. you can just add another on the end. even 2 or 3 or 4 more additional rotors!

CyberPitz

03-25-2008, 11:06 AM

no no no no, not even that.

the rotors go together like legos. you can just add another on the end. even 2 or 3 or 4 more additional rotors!

Oh! Can I make a Star Destroyer with the Rotors, then?! : D

pdxhak

03-25-2008, 11:07 AM

Damn Mazda, they need to make this happen. A 20B Renesis theoretically could produce about 350 crank HP in it's stock form. That would be a nice RX8!

Have you seen this thread?

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=141000

elysium19

03-25-2008, 11:38 AM

DK RX 8

03-26-2008, 11:29 AM

Hey Guys

I have one 13B rotor in my car and if i need other 13B rotor motor it's will cost me $7500 for buy this motor plus i have to order 4 rotor crankshaft from Hurley Rotary and i will custom the long bolts for to hold all 4 rotor together in one.

when the project is done all of you will love it !

DK RX 8

pdxhak

03-26-2008, 11:32 AM

You realize the cheap part of this project is buying the motors. I'd also look around for a better price for a 13b.

CyberPitz

03-26-2008, 11:36 AM

Why not buy a blown motor for really cheap, and rebuild it when you get it. You're going to have it open anyway.

CnnmnSchnpps

03-26-2008, 11:38 AM

Yeah you can get a 13b core for like 1k

TheWulf

03-26-2008, 11:39 AM

I'd just buy a 20b... there's your 3 rotors.

DK RX 8

03-27-2008, 01:10 PM

Hey Guys

Thanks for your comment guys, I never thought about to buy a blown 13B motor. Maybe i should do that. Thanks

DK RX 8

Rootski

03-27-2008, 02:47 PM

Lord, he's trying to do it with two Renesis motors. I don't think that's been done before.

CnnmnSchnpps

03-27-2008, 03:04 PM

If you can make a 3 rotor renesis I'm sure you can make a 4 rotor one as well.. This thread will be entertaining no matter the outcome..

Jethro Tull

03-27-2008, 03:06 PM

4 rotors...be sure to have a couple dozen eccentric shafts made. You'll go through them quickly.

Rootski

03-27-2008, 04:21 PM

If you can make a 3 rotor renesis I'm sure you can make a 4 rotor one as well.. This thread will be entertaining no matter the outcome..

The problem is the side ports. The middle rotors will be choked from having their exhaust ports siamesed together.

CnnmnSchnpps

03-27-2008, 04:28 PM

Well, that's open to some level of debate :)

Rootski

03-27-2008, 04:34 PM

Yep. I don't pretend to know everything about it, I've just heard that peripheral ports are better for 3+ rotors. Seems to make sense to me, especially since the exhaust ports are almost maxed out on size on the Renesis from the factory. RG was only able to reshape CRH's or else he'd be into the water jacket.

CyberPitz

03-27-2008, 05:28 PM

This thread is extremely entertaining, plus it's starting to house a bit of information! Hurray!

R.P.M.

09-03-2008, 03:18 PM

Found this on the RX-7 forum

http://www.rx7club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=287655&d=1206003977
http://www.rx7club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=287656&d=1206003977

mattrotary34

09-03-2008, 03:25 PM

wow....
thats amazing..

CyberPitz

09-03-2008, 03:56 PM

Mmmmm, 4 rotors are just so sexy.

alz0rz

09-03-2008, 06:56 PM

DRIFT KING where are thou?!?!

Marklar

09-03-2008, 07:02 PM

Wow...I want a car that will flip over backwards when I pop the clutch...

alz0rz

09-03-2008, 07:06 PM

I just realized that pic a few posts up is an rx8 engine bay D:

04RX8man

09-03-2008, 07:47 PM

Anything is possible with enough money and time and skills

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 09:38 AM

Hey Guys

Guess what is here ! a teaser pictures :)

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=161kzec&s=4

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 09:39 AM

http://i38.tinypic.com/161kzec.jpg

alz0rz

09-04-2008, 09:59 AM

oh dear

CyberPitz

09-04-2008, 10:01 AM

*CyberPitz's eyebrow raises...*

This is just going to get better!

pdxhak

09-04-2008, 10:08 AM

haha...go for it! This thread just got very interesting!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg184/pdxhigdon/Public/popcornsmiley.gif:beer:

alz0rz

09-04-2008, 10:10 AM

so he bought 4 rotor housings..

Musker

09-04-2008, 10:25 AM

Ho dang o_O

09-04-2008, 10:25 AM

If you're even semi-serious about this you should talk to the folks at Mazmart.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=154853

According to Paul it was near 100k for the engine and that wasn't a Rene 13b. Only one group has managed to put together a 3-rotor out of the renesis 13B somewhere in England though no one's ever seen a dyno of it and they put it in a FD.

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 11:18 AM

Hey Guys

alz0rz - Yeah it is 4 rotors housing and i alreadly have 4 rotors too also a Custom Eccentric Shafts for 4 Rotor Engines. that's far i have for now

DK RX 8

dozer

09-04-2008, 11:45 AM

this is gonna be nutsssssssss...........

Jedi54

09-04-2008, 11:47 AM

pass the popcorn, this could get interesting

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 11:49 AM

Thanks Guys for a comments :)

CyberPitz

09-04-2008, 11:50 AM

OK, this guy officially got on my subscribed list.

Marklar

09-04-2008, 11:58 AM

Wow, he's really serious. Good luck man!

pdxhak

09-04-2008, 12:05 PM

If this really gets going then this thread should be moved to the "Major Horsepower Upgrades" section of the board!

pdxhak

09-04-2008, 12:06 PM

Hey Guys

alz0rz - Yeah it is 4 rotors housing and i alreadly have 4 rotors too also a Custom Eccentric Shafts for 4 Rotor Engines. that's far i have for now

DK RX 8

Where did you get the eccentric shaft? Good luck with your build!

09-04-2008, 12:16 PM

And where's he doing this? PR where all the fun stuff on these cars happens?

chrism

09-04-2008, 12:21 PM

only place i know of that custom makes the e-shaft is in OZ

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 12:22 PM

Cyber pitz - haha and Thanks

Marklar - Oh yeah i m really serious on this project and i want to be the first person done in this 8 project.

pdxhak - sure if u want to move this thread to this board then go ahead, I bought eccentric shaft from AMV Racing and this shaft cost me $7,500 plus taxes

DK RX 8

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 12:26 PM

RK - I'm doing that in my garage at my home and i don t drive my 8 that much, i want to get done with my project first then i will take alot pictures when i m start the swap :)

pdxhak

09-04-2008, 12:28 PM

The mods would have to move it. I was just saying that because of what you are about to do :)

09-04-2008, 12:37 PM

RK - I'm doing that in my garage at my home and i don t drive my 8 that much, i want to get done with my project first then i will take alot pictures when i m start the swap :)

No. I mean where on planet Earth are you doing this. :)

Don't expect to drive your car for a very long time. Good luck all the same.

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 12:40 PM

RK - Thanks and i got what u mean now, I just tired haha and i m out of brain.. Thanks and i believe this project will sucess but it s kinda long way to go

CyberPitz

09-04-2008, 12:52 PM

Heck, take a lot of pictures of the path. I want to see it all :D

onefatsurfer

09-04-2008, 01:40 PM

subscribed.. ;)

good luck!

EdwardsB

09-04-2008, 02:18 PM

I cant believe you were actually serious...when this thread started I thought it was just some idiot that knew nothing. You sure proved me wrong.

Good luck with your project. Hope you have the time and money, I want to see this happen!

Also, get a sweet picture with your engine components spread out before you assemble it. Then keep more pictures coming.

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 02:28 PM

ok guys, here some of pictures for now

4 Rotors Housing
http://i36.tinypic.com/30jh6yf.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/333a4op.jpg
4 Rotors
http://i34.tinypic.com/69dmc1.jpg
Custom Eccentric Shafts From AMV Racing
This picture take at AMV Racing shop
http://i36.tinypic.com/fao1a9.jpg

Enjoy it Guys

04wb8

09-04-2008, 02:38 PM

good luck

Marklar

09-04-2008, 02:57 PM

This thread is like a sleeper car. You gonna turbo it? :)

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 03:01 PM

Marklar - Yeah my goal is 26B Twin Turbo

Red Devil

09-04-2008, 03:01 PM

Good luck!

What engine management are you using?

Marklar

09-04-2008, 03:18 PM

DX RX 8, you are insane. But in a good way. I can't imagine what the dyno numbers would be like.

moRotorMotor

09-04-2008, 03:20 PM

DK RX 8 went from 'potential Nalin' to 'Pioneer Extraordinaire'! I wish you luck man!

SideOfBacon

09-04-2008, 03:35 PM

:bow:

szym0n

09-04-2008, 03:45 PM

this is going to be sick

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 03:53 PM

Red Devil - I m use Microtech Engine Management

Marklar - Thanks man and u can guess what dyno number will it be hehe :)

moRotorMotor - Hahaha good joke and thanks man again

szym0n - Yea i know it will be sick 8 ever and i know i m insane to doin this project

after the engine is together i m order turbo and new clutch

and i alreadly figured out with 26B with Twin Turbo they will blow 30 to 45 PSI of boost

pdxhak

09-04-2008, 05:11 PM

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 05:23 PM

pdxhak - I know it is insane killer and yeah i can pull it off with this project and at the end will feel so good

DK RX 8

BlueRenesis82

09-04-2008, 06:50 PM

pdxhak - I know it is insane killer and yeah i can pull it off with this project and at the end will feel so good

DK RX 8

Good luck! That e-shaft reminds me of of a v-16 crank. :)

Brettus

09-04-2008, 08:23 PM

wonder why there isn't a 3rd bearing in the middle instead of the two extra at the end ?

EdwardsB

09-04-2008, 09:14 PM

what are you doing about a tranny , from what I remember reading Anjeljoelv went through a few (not sure if they were brand new tho) with a turbo 20b and you are going to have a bit more power than his?

tajabaho1

09-04-2008, 09:39 PM

yea man, please change tranny

it's just going to give up after seeing what you bolted on it

Falken

09-04-2008, 09:44 PM

Perhaps its time for a new thread without all of the ZOMG N00B stuff for 5 pages?

I must admit, I was skeptical. Good to see someone actually take a step in this direction!

Good luck!

CnnmnSchnpps

09-04-2008, 09:46 PM

dog box?

i hope you don't intend this to be a daily driver... holy 20 gpm batman

and porting work planned?

Perhaps its time for a new thread without all of the ZOMG N00B stuff for 5 pages?

I must admit, I was skeptical. Good to see someone actually take a step in this direction!

Good luck!

I'm willing to bet a new thread would fill up with yet more ZOMG N00B stuff...

Falken

09-04-2008, 09:47 PM

What are you doing about cooling?

CnnmnSchnpps

09-04-2008, 09:52 PM

What are you doing about cooling?

Yes you should talk to Charles R Hill from BHR I'm sure he can hook you up with any custom cooling parts you may need..

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 09:55 PM

EdwardsB - yeah i know him and i m not sure if i should change the tranny ... like i said tranny is a tranny just with the gears and what is the point to change it if someone have a good advise about it and maybe i will change it. Thanks

tajabaho1 - Should i change the tranny... i'm not really deep with tranny and i would be pleasure if u help me out and thanks

Falken - Hahaha and thanks man

CnnmnSchnpps - Haha good joke man, It's won't be a daily drive just for car show and drag.

Falken - I will swap to some big cooling

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 09:58 PM

CnnmnSchnpps - Yeah will need a porting work and i will send them to tool and die factory to drill it

sure give me his e mail address or whatever it is

Falken

09-04-2008, 09:59 PM

Falken - I will swap to some big cooling

Damn right.

That's a lot of radiator to fit under the hood of an RX-8, especially considering you have four rotors under there.

You'll be using a dry sump than? I wonder if the mazda 13B sump supplies enough oil....custom much?

DK RX 8

09-04-2008, 10:03 PM

No worry Falken, u will see when it is done and i know what is my plan alreadly ....

CnnmnSchnpps

09-04-2008, 10:05 PM

You can PM him on here "Charles R. Hill" is his forum name (I think Black Halo Racing has a vendor section too now). He might have some tips on transmissions too, I think he was working on a project for that.

Falken - good point about space. If this is for show and drag, then maybe you can use the trunk space for radiators and some a/w intercoolers?

Falken

09-04-2008, 10:31 PM

What compression ratio are your rotors?

PBlue

09-05-2008, 06:21 AM

Perhaps its time for a new thread without all of the ZOMG N00B stuff for 5 pages?

I must admit, I was skeptical. Good to see someone actually take a step in this direction!

Good luck!

+1. Everyone who posted can go back and delete their initial posts. Now that we know this is the 1% of the time that its NOT some newb post that will never go anywhere. One way or another this will be a
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j195/drkieros/LegendaryThread.jpg

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 02:48 PM

Falken - it is same comperssion ratio as 13B

CnnmnSchnpps - it's will be alot of surgery work and i will throw the battery in the trunk and removed the window wash fluid and maybe i will cut the front frame if the egine not fit in or not and if not then i will not cut the front frame off, i will figured it out when i m on swap

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 02:49 PM

PBlue - Haha nice picture and thanks man

Paul D

09-05-2008, 03:07 PM

2JZ ftw

Red Devil

09-05-2008, 03:14 PM

PBlue - Haha nice picture and thanks man

What are your plans for fuel delivery - pumps, fuel cell (maybe), etc...?

pdxhak

09-05-2008, 03:15 PM

2JZ ftw

stupid post of the day

greg985

09-05-2008, 03:24 PM

^ I loled

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 03:52 PM

Paul D - 2JZ ftw ????

Red Devil - Good question and i has never thought about it, because i have to focus on what i need to get done on the engine and put them together then i can decide on fuel and pump and other stuff if u have any idea or suggest i will pleasure to listen to it, Thanks Red Devil

i will post more pictures later of port housing drill

CyberPitz

09-05-2008, 05:35 PM

I can't wait for piiiixxxxxx

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 07:16 PM

Hey Guys, Check out more pictures

FD Front and Rear Stationary Gears

http://i37.tinypic.com/35miiis.jpg

GSL-SE Plates

http://i38.tinypic.com/315nymh.jpg

This picture took at AMV Racing shop and old guy sign in " 4 Rotors "

http://i35.tinypic.com/xft5ch.jpg

Front Iron

http://i37.tinypic.com/2h57jpu.jpg

Water Pump - it s from 20B engine.

http://i38.tinypic.com/111uzcm.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/67ig0l.jpg

Drilling port Housing

http://i34.tinypic.com/vq1hyp.jpg

That's all i have for now and welcome to comment it

DK RX 8

Marklar

09-05-2008, 07:25 PM

This is like porn. I'm dying to see a vid of this sick puppy in action when it's all done. Have you gotten your hands on an oscillation overthruster?

EdwardsB

09-05-2008, 07:28 PM

you lucky lucky SOB :) , thanks for keeping us up to date.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your background/current job in?

CnnmnSchnpps

09-05-2008, 07:32 PM

peripheral ports FTL :'( I'd like to see a 4 rotor renesis ;)

btw 13b rotors come in compression ratios anywhere from 8.5 to 10.0 so which is it? ;)

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 07:39 PM

Marklar - Haha thanks man again and i will get video when it s ready to show, nope.

EdwardsB - Thanks and i know everybody think i m crazy with this project but at least i try it.

My job is a welder and i live in Canada, Ontario by the way

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 07:43 PM

CnnmnSchnpps - 10.0:1 compression ratios

CodyD

09-05-2008, 07:55 PM

keep us up to date with the build if this goes through, would be AMAZAZING :)

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 09:19 PM

CodyD - Yes i will keep update with this bulid

khronus79

09-05-2008, 09:54 PM

2JZ ftw

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/624647ac8972bfe8c.jpg

DK, I'm glad you didn't let any1 discourage you from your original plans, keep up the good work:icon_tup: and keep us posted

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/khronus79/Thread-I_like_where_this_thread_is_.jpg

Nerve

09-05-2008, 10:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9VN9gvrnRU&watch_response

:naughty:

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 10:08 PM

khronus79 - Thanks alot and it s mean alot to me

DK RX 8

09-05-2008, 10:10 PM

Nerve - Oh yeah, I can't wait for my engine to run like that and i'm really very thrist about it

greg985

09-05-2008, 10:31 PM

this is gonna be nuts man, I cant wait

DK RX 8

09-06-2008, 12:03 AM

I wouldn t believe if i done in this project and my car will run 7 sec in a quarter mile

OUCH !

SlayerRX8

09-06-2008, 12:35 PM

How much power are you shooting for? You won't hit 7's N/A (as cool as it would be to see that).

DK RX 8

09-06-2008, 01:18 PM

SlayerRX8 - I have to see at dyno what i m shooting for ... because what my planning is 26B Twin Turbo

SlayerRX8

09-06-2008, 01:32 PM

Hahaha nice. I like your style.

Well in that case, who knows? It may be possible.

pdxhak

11-08-2008, 09:44 PM

BUMP! Any updates?!

26B RX8

11-08-2008, 10:23 PM

Hello guys,
the pics of the red rx8 with a 4 rotor is from my car.....this guy is using pictures that are not his...................................what a shame ....lol :nono:

my tread: http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=739941

the other 4 rotor guy tread : http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=744416

Stop dreaming son...................

pdxhak

11-08-2008, 10:33 PM

wow that is sad. what a loser!

Thanks for posting and I will be sure to follow the two threads you posted.

I8U

11-08-2008, 10:39 PM

HAHA! Thanks 26b, I thought I recognized these pics from somewhere...now I know for sure.

Falken

11-08-2008, 11:05 PM

zoom44

11-08-2008, 11:11 PM

Hey Guys, Check out more pictures

http://i35.tinypic.com/xft5ch.jpg

hey DK you mind saying who that cat is? careful because he's a freind of mine.

26b thanks for connecting it up- i knew i had seen those pics somewhere.

Falken

11-08-2008, 11:17 PM

Zoom - I believe that at this point DK is long gone and likely wont be back.

I8U

11-08-2008, 11:24 PM

Last activity, 9/28.

zoom44

11-08-2008, 11:35 PM

just in case id like to see if he even knows the name of the person in his purloined pictures

05rex8

11-08-2008, 11:43 PM

wow, why waste the time to fabricate a thread like this?

someone was in need of some attention or something.............

I guess the next time I need some attention I will turn to the interwebz

VS8

11-08-2008, 11:55 PM

free post

I8U

11-08-2008, 11:55 PM

wow, why waste the time to fabricate a thread like this?

someone was in need of some attention or something.............

I guess the next time I need some attention I will turn to the interwebz

I think you're on the interwebz enough as it is...have you looked at your post count recently!?! :lol:

05rex8

11-09-2008, 12:07 AM

I think you're on the interwebz enough as it is...have you looked at your post count recently!?! :lol:
dammit, you caught me

i <3 teh interwebz

Ross_Dawg

11-09-2008, 12:28 AM

ah just when I thought this thread was going somewhere...

alz0rz

11-09-2008, 01:18 AM

Hahahaha, Fail.

05rex8

11-09-2008, 01:25 AM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/29/f-ing_thread_sucks.gif

05rex8

11-09-2008, 01:28 AM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Family_Guy_Boobs.gif

nikkdizzle

11-10-2008, 02:16 AM

hhaha i can't believe this really happened.
or maybe i can.
oO well
FAIL.
hahaha

Marklar

11-10-2008, 05:47 PM

LOL, I can't believe that I fell for it. It's just hard to believe that someone would go to that much trouble to fake something like this.

I mean, where did he expect this to go? Was he going to post some rotary drag clips from Puerto Rico to show off "his" car? And how sad must your life be to care that much about getting props on some Internet board for something you didn't even do?

Oh well, at least we can have a rotary drag clip, that will make it all better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZjFvMKXv5k&feature=related