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Thats why I refuse to be underpaid. ike I always say if It doesnt pay 15 or more an hour I wont even entertain it. I charge $20 an hour for handyman work when I didn't have a job. That works out just fine.
being underpaid is why I just sit around and browse the internet for half of the day
there are a lot of sites off limits where I am at. I can not view the hott gf/wive thread or any other partial nude chick threads.
No hacking, ****, gambling, ebay, craigslist, etc sites. oh the pleasure of working for the gov
No hacking, ****, gambling, ebay, craigslist, etc sites. oh the pleasure of working for the gov
The Angry Wheelchair
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Just a word of thinking differently but how do you know you're being underpaid? Do you guys even have degrees? If so, have you compared it to to the median in that area for your level which is like 1st or 2nd year likely for working for a company? If you're doing a job that doesn't require a degree like working at a auto store or whatever, don't expect great pay.
Otherwise, if you are, and you have a degree well I think most people have the wrong mentality. They limit themselves thinking they should get a raise or better pay before deciding to do anything. That's the wrong type of thinking. Why should they or anyone pay you more if you haven't shown to be of better than average value than anyone else there? I worked my *** off at my job a year ago working 60-70 hours one week which I was already working overtime before that when require at no pay benefit for overtime. Two days straight once only getting 1 hour of sleep to get the job done in time which was part of a 70 hr work week.. It paid off at the end of the yearly review with high recommendation and a promotion to the next pay grade for an engineer. None of this was required, I did it for the company which is serving the customer.
Just saying, think about it.
Otherwise, if you are, and you have a degree well I think most people have the wrong mentality. They limit themselves thinking they should get a raise or better pay before deciding to do anything. That's the wrong type of thinking. Why should they or anyone pay you more if you haven't shown to be of better than average value than anyone else there? I worked my *** off at my job a year ago working 60-70 hours one week which I was already working overtime before that when require at no pay benefit for overtime. Two days straight once only getting 1 hour of sleep to get the job done in time which was part of a 70 hr work week.. It paid off at the end of the yearly review with high recommendation and a promotion to the next pay grade for an engineer. None of this was required, I did it for the company which is serving the customer.
Just saying, think about it.
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The Angry Wheelchair
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Rev it's not arguing, just trying to help you younger peeps see from what I've been through. I've worked those dead end low pay jobs and unless you are gonna do your own thing or start your own company, etc, you're gonna need a degree in something to get somewhere or, be passionate and gifted in what you do for that field of work to get up the ladder.
The majority of the attitude of people I see at time from time at work is, no raise = no motivation. People these days expect things to be given to them before working for it, they got that **** *** backwards.
Again if you are passionate about something you want to do for a living and are good at it, then get some good contacts and some knowledge to show a potential employer you want to go somewhere and be somebody. Otherwise you're just going to be like many other people who don't go far. TBH, companies don't care so much about the degree necessarily as they do experience and passion. I got my job because I said flat out I like to be innovative in designs and trouble shoot problems and showed it with passion with my background. A degree just shows you can pass a course and take the time to do so regardless of grades. Perhaps going beyond the typical Associates and Bachelor degree shows you have focus in a particular area of expertise which comes in handy as well. Hands-on experience will get you more interviews and looks for a position where you want to be before you even get your degree.
I had employers call me up back when I was your age looking out of college and were surprised I wasn't inside playing games when my parents anwered the phone, I was out working on my race car. Every other person they called were in the middle of playing games in the middle of the day. Nothing wrong with gaming as I love it myself, but if that's what you're doing most of the day then it doesn't exactly look appealing for someone who is focused or wants to go somewhere other than working for a gaming company. The littlest things that show them who you are make a difference. And don't try to bullshit it, they will know easily.
The majority of the attitude of people I see at time from time at work is, no raise = no motivation. People these days expect things to be given to them before working for it, they got that **** *** backwards.
Again if you are passionate about something you want to do for a living and are good at it, then get some good contacts and some knowledge to show a potential employer you want to go somewhere and be somebody. Otherwise you're just going to be like many other people who don't go far. TBH, companies don't care so much about the degree necessarily as they do experience and passion. I got my job because I said flat out I like to be innovative in designs and trouble shoot problems and showed it with passion with my background. A degree just shows you can pass a course and take the time to do so regardless of grades. Perhaps going beyond the typical Associates and Bachelor degree shows you have focus in a particular area of expertise which comes in handy as well. Hands-on experience will get you more interviews and looks for a position where you want to be before you even get your degree.
I had employers call me up back when I was your age looking out of college and were surprised I wasn't inside playing games when my parents anwered the phone, I was out working on my race car. Every other person they called were in the middle of playing games in the middle of the day. Nothing wrong with gaming as I love it myself, but if that's what you're doing most of the day then it doesn't exactly look appealing for someone who is focused or wants to go somewhere other than working for a gaming company. The littlest things that show them who you are make a difference. And don't try to bullshit it, they will know easily.