Once the car comes out...please no "kills" section
10-02-2002, 01:05 AM
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hey... im pritty new to this board and i dont know what the average age range here is but Im 19. Im a little insulted buy some of the stuff you guys are saying. I agree with you that street racing sucks. Where i am cops pull you over some times just cause you have a nice car and treat you like **** just cause they think your a dumb kid and all kids street race. Well i dont. Im actually really opposed to it. Im starting to feel a little un-welcome here just because of my age and i think that is pritty unfair. I am a long time member of the www.rx-7club.com and have been a rotory fan for a long time...dont generalize!
10-02-2002, 05:53 AM
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You mean we have to categorize every single personality type and comment individually on them?
I think not.
Everyone knows that not all teenagers are street racers. It should not need saying.
I think not.
Everyone knows that not all teenagers are street racers. It should not need saying.
10-02-2002, 08:59 AM
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I definitely think that a kill section is the beginning of the end for most car-forums. As soon as someone writes that they beat a Gremlin by 1.76 car lengths you suddenly have 30 Gremlin enthusiasts/trolls defending their honour all over the site. And even when the 'discussion' is ancient history some trolls will hang around to throw the occasional jab...
Also I don't think age has much to do with having a $30k+ car. At is300.net it seems 80% of the people that post are between 16-25. Many of the teenage owners either have very rich parents or managed to get a decent-paying job and spend every cent on their car and insurance payments (no rent, bills etc). Most are genuine enthusiasts and can write well (and know far more about automotive things than I do), so age should not be a bar to RX-8 enthusiasts/owners.
Also I don't think age has much to do with having a $30k+ car. At is300.net it seems 80% of the people that post are between 16-25. Many of the teenage owners either have very rich parents or managed to get a decent-paying job and spend every cent on their car and insurance payments (no rent, bills etc). Most are genuine enthusiasts and can write well (and know far more about automotive things than I do), so age should not be a bar to RX-8 enthusiasts/owners.
10-02-2002, 02:10 PM
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hey, we're not saying that all kids street race, and without a "kills" section, maybe they won't join/post.
not at all. Everyone will race, that's a fact...but let's keep it to ourselves if we do.
not at all. Everyone will race, that's a fact...but let's keep it to ourselves if we do.
11-07-2002, 10:27 AM
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hmm
i don't know about u guys, but when i get mah hands on RX-8, i can't b certain that i won't streetrace..
first, i like 2 accelerate too much (not so much as 2 speed, but accelerate)
n second, i won't b able 2 help myself if some kid in a civic blows by, not knowing what he's getting himself into
also, i agree that kill section might cause problems, but none of u guys want 2 post a good stree-racing experience n share wit other rx-8 owners?
i don't know.. but i've seen nice forums with a racing section that has good content in it
jus expressin' mah opinion
first, i like 2 accelerate too much (not so much as 2 speed, but accelerate)
n second, i won't b able 2 help myself if some kid in a civic blows by, not knowing what he's getting himself into
also, i agree that kill section might cause problems, but none of u guys want 2 post a good stree-racing experience n share wit other rx-8 owners?
i don't know.. but i've seen nice forums with a racing section that has good content in it
jus expressin' mah opinion
11-07-2002, 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by TerenceSPark
i don't know about u guys, but when i get mah hands on RX-8, i can't b certain that i won't streetrace..
first, i like 2 accelerate too much (not so much as 2 speed, but accelerate)
n second, i won't b able 2 help myself if some kid in a civic blows by, not knowing what he's getting himself into
also, i agree that kill section might cause problems, but none of u guys want 2 post a good stree-racing experience n share wit other rx-8 owners?
i don't know.. but i've seen nice forums with a racing section that has good content in it
jus expressin' mah opinion
i don't know about u guys, but when i get mah hands on RX-8, i can't b certain that i won't streetrace..
first, i like 2 accelerate too much (not so much as 2 speed, but accelerate)
n second, i won't b able 2 help myself if some kid in a civic blows by, not knowing what he's getting himself into
also, i agree that kill section might cause problems, but none of u guys want 2 post a good stree-racing experience n share wit other rx-8 owners?
i don't know.. but i've seen nice forums with a racing section that has good content in it
jus expressin' mah opinion
P.S - I'm being nice Toadman! :D
11-07-2002, 02:12 PM
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arguing is not 1 of mah thing, but i didn't say i was going 2 buy the car 4 street-racing... i wana avoid something like that as much as possble, but knowing myself, i know i'll get into races here n there
as far as no one in this forum listening 2 mah stupidity, that's fine, as i stated ALREADY, i was merely expressing mah opinion
thanks 4 replying anyways
as far as no one in this forum listening 2 mah stupidity, that's fine, as i stated ALREADY, i was merely expressing mah opinion
thanks 4 replying anyways
11-07-2002, 06:18 PM
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I am sure I will get into a position where I will race. This is a sports car and I love running through gears. I will also take it down to Muncie for a 1/4 mile run or two. Sorry to burst your guys bubbles but this car will be raced and compared to other sports cars such as the Z. I see no reason to be closed minded about the car being raced or driven fast. As this cars' heritage is all about being a very fast and great handling car. I just am getting sick of people on the board complaining about racing or driving fast. It will happen and I'm sorry if I will bring the high and mighty status you guys seem to be placing on the car down.
A car is what you want it to be. To you it may be just a great handling car for others its something else. So don't whine and moan when someone else is going to use the car for something different than what YOU think it should be used for.
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A car is what you want it to be. To you it may be just a great handling car for others its something else. So don't whine and moan when someone else is going to use the car for something different than what YOU think it should be used for.
End of Rant
11-07-2002, 06:34 PM
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Of course people will race the RX-8- it IS a sports car/sedan whatever you want to call it- it would be pretty silly if at least someone wasn't. I don't think ANYONE would argue that it won't be raced, or that it shouldn't. However, racing at stoplights isn't racing. It's just dangerous and stupid. It's also a great way to get ticketed and/or arrested. Who cares if the little moron in the "riced" car wants to race- no one (or at least only a very select few) with a truely modified car is going to be racing at stoplights, so you don't prove anything by outrunning the little ninnies in a race to 45 miles an hour. You want to prove how fast your car is, go to the track. You want to accelerate fast- go for it, but be smart about it. Racing at lights, again, is just stupid.
I agree with pelucidor- a kills section would be the beginning of the end. We'd be besieged by flaming trolls.
I agree with pelucidor- a kills section would be the beginning of the end. We'd be besieged by flaming trolls.
11-07-2002, 06:43 PM
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Of course people will race the RX-8- it IS a sports car/sedan whatever you want to call it- it would be pretty silly if at least someone wasn't. I don't think ANYONE would argue that it won't be raced, or that it shouldn't. However, racing at stoplights isn't racing. It's just dangerous and stupid. It's also a great way to get ticketed and/or arrested. Who cares if the little moron in the "riced" car wants to race- no one (or at least only a very select few) with a truely modified car is going to be racing at stoplights, so you don't prove anything by outrunning the little ninnies in a race to 45 miles an hour. You want to prove how fast your car is, go to the track. You want to accelerate fast- go for it, but be smart about it. Racing at lights, again, is just stupid.
I agree with pelucidor- a kills section would be the beginning of the end. We'd be besieged by flaming trolls.
Of course people will race the RX-8- it IS a sports car/sedan whatever you want to call it- it would be pretty silly if at least someone wasn't. I don't think ANYONE would argue that it won't be raced, or that it shouldn't. However, racing at stoplights isn't racing. It's just dangerous and stupid. It's also a great way to get ticketed and/or arrested. Who cares if the little moron in the "riced" car wants to race- no one (or at least only a very select few) with a truely modified car is going to be racing at stoplights, so you don't prove anything by outrunning the little ninnies in a race to 45 miles an hour. You want to prove how fast your car is, go to the track. You want to accelerate fast- go for it, but be smart about it. Racing at lights, again, is just stupid.
I agree with pelucidor- a kills section would be the beginning of the end. We'd be besieged by flaming trolls.
Thanks!
11-07-2002, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Elara
*grin* Thanks Hercules. But your posts are a heck of a lot more entertaining than mine to read!
*grin* Thanks Hercules. But your posts are a heck of a lot more entertaining than mine to read!
nonetheless they are entertaining
:p
11-07-2002, 10:01 PM
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I follow Elara, Hercules and pelucidor etc...
No doubt owners will race the RX-8 everywhere. I don't care what anyone else does with their car because I can't control it - so why care about it? To me this is not the point at hand. The point of not having a "kills section" is to avoid unwanted personalities on this forum.
I don't think there is anything wrong with having a section that posts official track times at sanctioned events. (Though I fear such a section might get out of control also.) No one can honestly say street racing is more fun, or more of an ego boost than orgranized autocrossing or drag racing. With both of those you get real results and legitimate records to back up your car. And that is 100 times better than anything you can ever do on the street.
No doubt owners will race the RX-8 everywhere. I don't care what anyone else does with their car because I can't control it - so why care about it? To me this is not the point at hand. The point of not having a "kills section" is to avoid unwanted personalities on this forum.
I don't think there is anything wrong with having a section that posts official track times at sanctioned events. (Though I fear such a section might get out of control also.) No one can honestly say street racing is more fun, or more of an ego boost than orgranized autocrossing or drag racing. With both of those you get real results and legitimate records to back up your car. And that is 100 times better than anything you can ever do on the street.
11-07-2002, 10:28 PM
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I follow Elara, Hercules and pelucidor etc...
No doubt owners will race the RX-8 everywhere. I don't care what anyone else does with their car because I can't control it - so why care about it? To me this is not the point at hand. The point of not having a "kills section" is to avoid unwanted personalities on this forum.
I don't think there is anything wrong with having a section that posts official track times at sanctioned events. (Though I fear such a section might get out of control also.) No one can honestly say street racing is more fun, or more of an ego boost than orgranized autocrossing or drag racing. With both of those you get real results and legitimate records to back up your car. And that is 100 times better than anything you can ever do on the street.
I follow Elara, Hercules and pelucidor etc...
No doubt owners will race the RX-8 everywhere. I don't care what anyone else does with their car because I can't control it - so why care about it? To me this is not the point at hand. The point of not having a "kills section" is to avoid unwanted personalities on this forum.
I don't think there is anything wrong with having a section that posts official track times at sanctioned events. (Though I fear such a section might get out of control also.) No one can honestly say street racing is more fun, or more of an ego boost than orgranized autocrossing or drag racing. With both of those you get real results and legitimate records to back up your car. And that is 100 times better than anything you can ever do on the street.
11-07-2002, 11:08 PM
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The point of not having a "kills section" is to avoid unwanted personalities on this forum.
11-08-2002, 01:42 AM
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Not so much personalities, but unwanted flame-wars/p*ssing contests. Racing will occur, it's inevitable. We're all curious how it stacks up, true. Everyone wants to size up the new kid on the block. The 350Z is already getting such posts on their forums. Why goad the trolls on with a Kill forum? It's flame-bait, one-sided opinion, and provocative. They have Streetracing.org for that stuff.
Not so much personalities, but unwanted flame-wars/p*ssing contests. Racing will occur, it's inevitable. We're all curious how it stacks up, true. Everyone wants to size up the new kid on the block. The 350Z is already getting such posts on their forums. Why goad the trolls on with a Kill forum? It's flame-bait, one-sided opinion, and provocative. They have Streetracing.org for that stuff.
11-08-2002, 02:26 PM
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What i see are that a lot of the more prominent members are saying (wisely) that a kills thread is a very bad idea. This is very noticeable at the beginning of the thread. Some of the junior memebers expressed that that this might not be as bad of an idea. I happen to agree with the overwhelming majority here in that kill threads would be a bad idea. The other junor memebors should take advice from those who have been here a while, for they probably know better than we about this.
11-08-2002, 03:37 PM
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I am on plenty of different forums on the internet, so being a junior member on this board means nothing. I want a kills page personally, of course I'm terribly immature, reckless and only 24. If this forum doesn't have one though I'm sure another will so I'll get over it. I guess I'm the type that enjoys a pissing contest between overbearing testerone driven meatheads every now and then..
11-08-2002, 04:31 PM
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I am on plenty of different forums on the internet, so being a junior member on this board means nothing. I want a kills page personally, of course I'm terribly immature, reckless and only 24. If this forum doesn't have one though I'm sure another will so I'll get over it. I guess I'm the type that enjoys a pissing contest between overbearing testerone driven meatheads every now and then..
I am on plenty of different forums on the internet, so being a junior member on this board means nothing. I want a kills page personally, of course I'm terribly immature, reckless and only 24. If this forum doesn't have one though I'm sure another will so I'll get over it. I guess I'm the type that enjoys a pissing contest between overbearing testerone driven meatheads every now and then..
11-13-2002, 03:27 PM
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ya, if for no other reason that to maintain civility and keep the "my car's faster than your car" BS outa the forum, that's enough reason for me...
12-05-2002, 08:54 AM
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I could not care less either way.
I currently own an RX7 Turbo and have owned several over the years. I'm on most of the RX7 forums and most of them have "Kills" sections. I don't read those posts, nor do I post in those sections. An open forum should have places for everyone to post their "stories". It does not need to be moderated and "senior" members don't have to even enter that section of the website. I plan on buying an RX8 as soon as they come out, but honestly the "high and mighty" tone of this thread smacks of elitism and snobbery. I'm 34 and I'm starting to wonder if the crowd that will be buying this car is too old for ME! I'm not condoning street racing (I have been in maybe one or two in the last three years - just couldn't resist, I'd tell you the story but then this would be a "Kill" post) BUT I say give everyone a chance to express themselves. I won't read the posts but those who like the kills section will.
Todd
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PS. I've never seen "unwanted personality" or "teen bashing" comments on any of the RX7 sites. Just because we can afford this car does not mean we have to be asses.
Todd
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PS. I've never seen "unwanted personality" or "teen bashing" comments on any of the RX7 sites. Just because we can afford this car does not mean we have to be asses.
12-05-2002, 02:49 PM
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Even if it does not turn into a flame war most of the stories in other forums (like RX7Club) are about a FD killing a riced out civic. Everyone knows who is going to win and sure it is nice to see a ricer go down, but it does not need to be posted on the internet.
PS: I like RX7 Club, there are just to many pointless kills stories.
PS: I like RX7 Club, there are just to many pointless kills stories.