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The Minority 8 [ECU and RE-Intake]

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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Lightbulb The Minority 8 [ECU and RE-Intake]

I just got back from my 3rd dyno day. On 3/31/04 I did some comparisons between Stock and the RE-Intake. My 8 happens to be a minority 8 in the aspect that the RE-Intake made me lose about 15.8 hp peak, which also carried on through the mid-range. Another oddity of my 8 is that I was peaked at 185.2, almost all other 8’s dyno’d at this shop I believe were in the low 170’s. I began to think that maybe the reason for me being a minority was that my car had a different ECU setting. My car arrived in port on 7/13/03, maybe that’s why.

So I received the latest reflash from Mazda, I couldn’t find any sticker to tell me the letter. So either L or M. Today for comparisons we did a stock run, now it seems I’m no longer a minority in HP.

Latest Flash VS Old Flash [4th gear pulls]
Max Power: 167.2 @ 7.2k – 185.2 @ 8.2k
Torque: 136.1 @ 5.2k – 137.3 @ 6k


As you can see, a big drop. I’m also back in line with the other 8’s. You can also tell the difference starts right after 5k.

Now to see if I was correct, I ran the RE-Intake. I gained 4 hp and lost a little torque in the mid-range.
Stock Vs RE [3rd gear]
Max Power: 177.4 @ 8.8k – 182.3 @ 8.6k
Torque: 133.9 @ 6k – 130.5 @ 6k


So the RE-Intake does work. But I want my old map back!

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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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Flash Vs Flash
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Re-Intake w\L vs Stock w\L
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Well that sure sucks. I also have a "first batch" 8. Maybe I don't want the reflash after all.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Didn't I read somewhere that it seemed to people that the newer L and M maps seemed to be better throughout the power band, possibly at the expense of peak power? Without looking at numbers, can you tell the difference when you drive it?

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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Much smoother, no sudden surges in power in the upper band that I had. I wish i had some 1/4 times before and after to compare better.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Why are you in 3rd gear? That generally reduces the Hp numbers?
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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not really sure, just what the garage did. But we ran a stock and then the RE intake so comparisons would be correct.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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Do you have a base, sport of GT model?
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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Could the difference be, that you ran 1000 rpm less (7200 rpm vrs. 8200 rpm) when you were running the stock filter?
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:54 AM
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that's also weird that max power is 1k below... wish money grew on trees so i can dyno all day and figure this out.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on just a few dynos and with this cars temperment it's tricky.Temp can play a big difference after heat soak. You probably have the same power as before, maybe even a little more after the flash. Try to get the same conditions (Temperature,fuel, tire psi, ect) as before when you ran the 185.2 H.P. stock.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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I know I'm at less power, I could feel the difference the day I jumped in it. Nearly 20 hp is a lot to be off due to Temp, or anything else.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Really scary!
I'm not even sure I'm still sold on the CZ#1... It seems the RENESIS is a hard nut to crack
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Really scary!
I'm not even sure I'm still sold on the CZ#1... It seems the RENESIS is a hard nut to crack
Canzoomers mod is definitely a worthwhile mod for the money and the flash updates are worked out. The good thing about the stage 3 is you can have a decent kick in the pants upgrade now and when a supercharger comes out you can take advantage of the whole powerband especially down low where many feel it is sorely needed.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Mine is ordered :D
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 05:12 AM
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Maybe you should find out if can have a "flashback." Mycar was avery early one as well. I got mine at the end of August soit probably has a June or July date. But I have an automatic so I dontthink Ill be doing much racing anyway
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