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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Which air intake to get

So i just bought a weapon r air intake and was womdering if thats a good choice. I read acouple things on here sayin it took power away. You think i should return and get a different one?
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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Yes, weapon-r is one of the worst offenders when it comes to losing power from aftermarket intakes. K&N being the other one it competes with at the bottom. Only way to get worse than those is with ebay no-name-brand stuff.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Yes, weapon-r is one of the worst offenders when it comes to losing power from aftermarket intakes. K&N being the other one it competes with at the bottom. Only way to get worse than those is with ebay no-name-brand stuff.
What brand would u reccomend
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Thats really cool how did u do that
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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WCS's pic was actually done by someone, and it's retarded. He was posting it as a joke. Look at the neck that they both go down to. It's still the restriction point, not to mention it's lacking any airflow control, etc...

Intakes are FAR more complicated than some people realize.


Racing Beat, AEM, and Mazdaspeed are the only ones proven to produce gains in power.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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http://www.racingbeat.com/RX8/Intake...ers/18299.html

Think this would be a good one
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Carmestro21
That and the AEM CAI are the only ones that are recommended.

Go for it.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Alright thanks ur input
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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Another that gets overlooked because it's pricey.
Mazda RX8 Cold Air Intake System. Mazda RX-8 Horsepower Performance Parts.

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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 12:41 AM
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in stop & go driving or extended idling most of those become hot air intakes

so for a street car the Racing Beat box intake is your best bet
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
in stop & go driving or extended idling most of those become hot air intakes

so for a street car the Racing Beat box intake is your best bet
the TeamRX8 toaster intake increases power as well
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Yes, weapon-r is one of the worst offenders when it comes to losing power from aftermarket intakes. K&N being the other one it competes with at the bottom. Only way to get worse than those is with ebay no-name-brand stuff.
The K&N Typhoon is no good? why is this?
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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Racing Beat CAI

AEM CAI
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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The K&N Typhoon is no good? why is this?
Several reasons:

1) The intake opening is inside our engine bay, which gets rather hot. Even the OEM intake pulls area from outside the engine bay. Hot air means less air, and less air means less power.

2) The length from the opening the filter / opening of the intake to the MAF is much shorter than OEM, leading to different airflow characteristics over the MAF, that the ECU doesn't expect

3) There is no design consideration to straighten the airflow across the MAF, unlike the OEM intake with screens, which compounds the problem present in #2.

4) Historical evidence from numerous members here report rough idle, stumbling idle, CELs ranging from bad MAF airflow to lean and/or rich conditions while the ECU tries to figure out what kind of airflow the engine is actually seeing ... and keeps getting it wrong.
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Several reasons:

1) The intake opening is inside our engine bay, which gets rather hot. Even the OEM intake pulls area from outside the engine bay. Hot air means less air, and less air means less power.

2) The length from the opening the filter / opening of the intake to the MAF is much shorter than OEM, leading to different airflow characteristics over the MAF, that the ECU doesn't expect

3) There is no design consideration to straighten the airflow across the MAF, unlike the OEM intake with screens, which compounds the problem present in #2.

4) Historical evidence from numerous members here report rough idle, stumbling idle, CELs ranging from bad MAF airflow to lean and/or rich conditions while the ECU tries to figure out what kind of airflow the engine is actually seeing ... and keeps getting it wrong.
Thank you. So racing beat is the best choice? How much gain?
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 10:24 PM
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1-4ish hp. It won't be much.

Yes, the stock intake IS actually that good.

Take a look through my newbie's guide to modding thread (in my sig). There is a section on intakes.
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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okay I'll check it out thank you again
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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I got the AEM and i'm very happy with it. I like how it looks through the grill of the bumper, the sound is amazing and loud at high RPMs, and i feel more of a pull. A little to be asking though, since you already bought a weapon-r, am I right...?
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by EmoMetalSk8r
I got the AEM and i'm very happy with it. I like how it looks through the grill of the bumper, the sound is amazing and loud at high RPMs, and i feel more of a pull. A little to be asking though, since you already bought a weapon-r, am I right...?
i think you heard a louder noise and thought you felt your car getting faster.

dynos show that the intake barely improves hp.

My baffles were removed and i didnt have my exhaust connected so my car was pretty loud when i put my intake on, so when i put my exhaust back on and it quieted down, i didnt notice and noise increase or power increase..

but the intake looks pretty!
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EmoMetalSk8r
I got the AEM and i'm very happy with it. I like how it looks through the grill of the bumper, the sound is amazing and loud at high RPMs, and i feel more of a pull. A little to be asking though, since you already bought a weapon-r, am I right...?
Ya but I just returned and doing some more research
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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Yeah, go for the AEM or Mazdaspeed. Those are supposed to be the best, err... only good ones i guess, haha. I haven't heard much on the RB one, but it sounds pretty cool and a lot of people have it, but i haven't done much reading on it.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Isn't all this answered in RIWWP's sticky?
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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I would also recommend the AEM . They have the best gains and most reliable.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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A thought...

even with the factory intake, you get a lot of hot air into the intake. I see 15 to 20 degree rises once the engine heats up, and the radiator starts to heat all the air behind the bumper.

The racing beat duct makes sure you get cold air. I am saving up for that one, with the factory intake. It is a little harder to install, but not bad.

Just my opinion...
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