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Carmestro21 01-18-2013 07:24 PM

Which air intake to get
 
So i just bought a weapon r air intake and was womdering if thats a good choice. I read acouple things on here sayin it took power away. You think i should return and get a different one?

RIWWP 01-18-2013 07:25 PM

Yes, weapon-r is one of the worst offenders when it comes to losing power from aftermarket intakes. K&N being the other one it competes with at the bottom. Only way to get worse than those is with ebay no-name-brand stuff.

wcs 01-18-2013 07:33 PM

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Carmestro21 01-18-2013 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4412173)
Yes, weapon-r is one of the worst offenders when it comes to losing power from aftermarket intakes. K&N being the other one it competes with at the bottom. Only way to get worse than those is with ebay no-name-brand stuff.

What brand would u reccomend

Carmestro21 01-18-2013 08:28 PM

Thats really cool how did u do that

RIWWP 01-18-2013 09:24 PM

WCS's pic was actually done by someone, and it's retarded. He was posting it as a joke. Look at the neck that they both go down to. It's still the restriction point, not to mention it's lacking any airflow control, etc...

Intakes are FAR more complicated than some people realize.


Racing Beat, AEM, and Mazdaspeed are the only ones proven to produce gains in power.

Carmestro21 01-18-2013 09:34 PM

http://www.racingbeat.com/RX8/Intake...ers/18299.html

Think this would be a good one

rickeo 01-18-2013 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Carmestro21 (Post 4412208)

That and the AEM CAI are the only ones that are recommended.

Go for it.

Carmestro21 01-18-2013 11:20 PM

Alright thanks ur input

alnielsen 01-18-2013 11:21 PM

Another that gets overlooked because it's pricey.
Mazda RX8 Cold Air Intake System. Mazda RX-8 Horsepower Performance Parts.

http://www.srmotorsports.com/RX8_Cold_Intake_Black2.jpg

TeamRX8 01-19-2013 12:41 AM

in stop & go driving or extended idling most of those become hot air intakes

so for a street car the Racing Beat box intake is your best bet

EricB 01-19-2013 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4412264)
in stop & go driving or extended idling most of those become hot air intakes

so for a street car the Racing Beat box intake is your best bet

the TeamRX8 toaster intake increases power as well :cool:

SeanMrx8 02-11-2013 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4412173)
Yes, weapon-r is one of the worst offenders when it comes to losing power from aftermarket intakes. K&N being the other one it competes with at the bottom. Only way to get worse than those is with ebay no-name-brand stuff.

The K&N Typhoon is no good? why is this?

comebackqid 02-11-2013 07:11 PM

Racing Beat CAI

AEM CAI

RIWWP 02-11-2013 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by SeanMrx8 (Post 4425269)
The K&N Typhoon is no good? why is this?

Several reasons:

1) The intake opening is inside our engine bay, which gets rather hot. Even the OEM intake pulls area from outside the engine bay. Hot air means less air, and less air means less power.

2) The length from the opening the filter / opening of the intake to the MAF is much shorter than OEM, leading to different airflow characteristics over the MAF, that the ECU doesn't expect

3) There is no design consideration to straighten the airflow across the MAF, unlike the OEM intake with screens, which compounds the problem present in #2.

4) Historical evidence from numerous members here report rough idle, stumbling idle, CELs ranging from bad MAF airflow to lean and/or rich conditions while the ECU tries to figure out what kind of airflow the engine is actually seeing ... and keeps getting it wrong.

SeanMrx8 02-11-2013 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4425326)
Several reasons:

1) The intake opening is inside our engine bay, which gets rather hot. Even the OEM intake pulls area from outside the engine bay. Hot air means less air, and less air means less power.

2) The length from the opening the filter / opening of the intake to the MAF is much shorter than OEM, leading to different airflow characteristics over the MAF, that the ECU doesn't expect

3) There is no design consideration to straighten the airflow across the MAF, unlike the OEM intake with screens, which compounds the problem present in #2.

4) Historical evidence from numerous members here report rough idle, stumbling idle, CELs ranging from bad MAF airflow to lean and/or rich conditions while the ECU tries to figure out what kind of airflow the engine is actually seeing ... and keeps getting it wrong.

Thank you. So racing beat is the best choice? How much gain?

RIWWP 02-11-2013 10:24 PM

1-4ish hp. It won't be much.

Yes, the stock intake IS actually that good.

Take a look through my newbie's guide to modding thread (in my sig). There is a section on intakes.

SeanMrx8 02-11-2013 10:35 PM

okay I'll check it out thank you again

EmoMetalSk8r 02-22-2013 02:07 PM

I got the AEM and i'm very happy with it. I like how it looks through the grill of the bumper, the sound is amazing and loud at high RPMs, and i feel more of a pull. A little to be asking though, since you already bought a weapon-r, am I right...?

EricB 02-23-2013 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by EmoMetalSk8r (Post 4430593)
I got the AEM and i'm very happy with it. I like how it looks through the grill of the bumper, the sound is amazing and loud at high RPMs, and i feel more of a pull. A little to be asking though, since you already bought a weapon-r, am I right...?

i think you heard a louder noise and thought you felt your car getting faster.

dynos show that the intake barely improves hp.

My baffles were removed and i didnt have my exhaust connected so my car was pretty loud when i put my intake on, so when i put my exhaust back on and it quieted down, i didnt notice and noise increase or power increase..

but the intake looks pretty!

Carmestro21 02-23-2013 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by EmoMetalSk8r (Post 4430593)
I got the AEM and i'm very happy with it. I like how it looks through the grill of the bumper, the sound is amazing and loud at high RPMs, and i feel more of a pull. A little to be asking though, since you already bought a weapon-r, am I right...?

Ya but I just returned and doing some more research

EmoMetalSk8r 03-15-2013 02:34 PM

Yeah, go for the AEM or Mazdaspeed. Those are supposed to be the best, err... only good ones i guess, haha. I haven't heard much on the RB one, but it sounds pretty cool and a lot of people have it, but i haven't done much reading on it.

rickeo 03-15-2013 02:46 PM

Isn't all this answered in RIWWP's sticky?

JM Auto Racing 03-20-2013 01:10 PM

I would also recommend the AEM . They have the best gains and most reliable.

04Green 03-20-2013 01:25 PM

A thought...

even with the factory intake, you get a lot of hot air into the intake. I see 15 to 20 degree rises once the engine heats up, and the radiator starts to heat all the air behind the bumper.

The racing beat duct makes sure you get cold air. I am saving up for that one, with the factory intake. It is a little harder to install, but not bad.

Just my opinion...


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