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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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mixing pads on same rotors OK? (can I re-bed-in?)

Hi folks,

I'm currently running Racing Brake slotted rotors with Hawk Ceramic Performance pads, which I have bedded in correctly shortly after installing (man, did it smell!).

However, I'm unsatisfied with the Hawk Ceramics. Their initial bite is lower than OEM (advertised as "more linear feel"), which is maybe good for modulating brakes easier at autocross, but makes the brakes less confidence inspiring (I really liked the OEM initial bite), a feel that bugs me. They also dust with this red color, which others have described as "less noticeable," but to me it looks like someone exploded a flower pot over my wheels.

I want to switch back to OEM pads or Axxis Ultimates (which seem to review well as far as initial bite and not overly loud/dusty).

I heard that mixing different pad compounds on the same rotors is unadvisable. However, new rotors are an expensive proposition.

Is there some procedure I can follow to ensure good bedding in of the new pads? Can I just follow the regular bed-in procedure and hope for the best?

I can't turn the rotors, since they are slotted.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Get the rotors resurfaced.

If your track your car consider carbotechs,
I use bobcats for the streets, and carbotech race pads use the same compound as the street pads so you can just swap em out, and they won't hurt the rotor
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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I'll buy your ceramics if you dont want them.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by imput1234
Get the rotors resurfaced.
I can't, they are slotted.
Originally Posted by staticlag
I'll buy your ceramics if you dont want them.
I'll be selling them eventually.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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astral i dont know if my situation applies but i am running a stoptech bbk with the axxis ultimate pads. they do squeal and i feel there is more dust than the oe pads. again i am probably getting more dust,squeal, and bite because of the bbk but thats what i feel. i dont know how it will be with the oe brakes but just my .02
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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RacingBrake has a tech note on their site as to which pads they recommend for their rotors.
If I recall, they don't recommend a ceramic based compound for their proprietary rotor (especially Carbotech). The do recommend Hawk HPS as a pad for street use.

And, answer to your question, yes, you can re-bed in new compound. Also, look up different methods of prepping rotors (cleaning, emory paper, etc.) for the new pad.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by imput1234
Get the rotors resurfaced.

If your track your car consider carbotechs,
I use bobcats for the streets, and carbotech race pads use the same compound as the street pads so you can just swap em out, and they won't hurt the rotor


Originally Posted by from the RacingBrake website
Since our disc material is different from OE or other rotor manufacturers, the same racing pads you used to know or install (typically Carbotech or Ferrado) and work well on these rotors may not function satisfactorily on our rotors. One of the most common issues is the pad deposit which is a substance emitted from the pad under high heat and transferred to the rotor surface that can cause vibration, pedal pulsation and hot spots on rotors surface resulting in thermal cracks or pre-mature brake failure.
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=73
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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OK, Racing Brake says I can spray the rotor with brake cleaner and reburshing the pads (though that may take longer as a result).
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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Take some sandpaper ( about 100 grit) and sand the rotors lightly to skuff them up.....re-bed the new pads....good to go!
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