Turblown 400hp s2
 

Found this interesting clip on youtube today originally posted a month ago. Figured I’d share with you guys:)

There is already a thread on this but what's interesting about more BS dyno claims? Turdblown also claimed the highest HP S1, which promptly ate itself in short order. No turbo RX-8 involving Turdblown has seen anything resembling reliability. Also this shop doing the build is/was not Turdblown but they were involved in the build and tuning IIRC. getting a Turbo renny to 350-400 is not that hard without any give a fucks on the dyno. Building a reliable one is the feat that is next to impossible.

Either way, any claims they make can't be trusted, there is a reason they are MIA from this forum.

dont they get you 500whp out of the box tho?

The car was built and dyno’d by Lucky7 Racing, 9k. Turblown supplied the turbo system and some support stuff, but only did a rough base tune on the car remotely by internet while it was on the dyno. I think it has some potential to reach 500 hp for sure. It won’t be zippy on the boost with the big turbo, but the PR (exhaust backpressure) will be a lot more reasonable which might help it handle the power increase. I’m a bit surprised they haven’t tried to tune it more already. Been watching for updates, only crickets though ... but that has nothing to do with Turblown. The owner and Lucky7 are in control of that decision


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I wouldn't be surprised if they already blew the engine and the project has been canned.

I’m just going to say that for sure Turblown dug a hole here for themselves many years back, but then I’ve also seen a number real home run jobs come out of their shop over the last few years and frankly companies and people can change. For those members here who feel like they were burned, I understand they may never get past that. I’ve felt that way with a few companies/people too.

However, while I haven’t had them do any fab work for me personally, I’ve seen some fairly nice things come out of their shop. Also both Elliott and Shawn have been providing me with great support and service for the parts and equipment I’ve purchased from then including a lot of setup info for the new Adaptronic modular ecu and the support hardware and sensors I needed for it. I don’t have any issue working with Turblown. In fact they know a lot about setting up rotary engines for FI. I think you’re missing out on a great resource by not involving them. That’s how I see it anyway ...

I’m not really a grudge person though. At some point you just have to accept it for what it was and move on imo ...



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It still runs, just look on instagram. Waiting on a DBW module from adaptronic HQ to move the project farther forward.

Sorry to be negative .... comes from all the years of disappointing results . I would like to see it make some decent power but what I've learnt about the Renesis has made me very skeptical.

Is that a Dynojet they used for those runs ?

Yes its a dynojet, and fyi we had nothing to with the calibration of their software/dyno. We were only connected to the tuning labtop. You can probably ask lucky7 for the dyno file which shows the correction factor, thats the only way I know how to fake a dynojet dyno. I'm not an expert in that field, as we have never faked a dyno reading.

I wasn't trying to imply the dyno was faked in any way , seems totally legit to me.

It actually seems low if anything given all the information supplied :

1/Dynojet normally reads 10% higher than other brands
2/E85 normally is worth a few horsepower
3/They ran it up to 19psi (tapering down to 16 I think). 16psi is about where others (including myself) have made 400whp on slightly smaller turbos

A tiger never changes his stripes, a liar will always be a liar. You can bet on that.

My BS detector is pretty good when it comes to dynos , mainly because I've been on so many and tried so much . I see no problem with the above dyno other than the fact it's on a Dynojet .
Same deal on a dyno dynamics would be mid 300s , which is actually quite a low number for that level of boost . I wonder if the APV was closed as was suggested originally.

Turblown's in Minnesota...Im in Los Angeles. As you can see in the video.. its the owner of lucky 7 and myself on the dyno. I've worked with Lucky 7 Racing for almost 10 years on my FD build (@trmnl7)... Turblown assisted with this build with my turbo kit, ecu as well as other parts... and flew in to do a basemap to get us moving. I've overall had an extremely positive experience working with them and appreciate how serious they took this project by flying out across the USA on their dime to assist and make sure I was happy with both of my builds (1 of which their only contribution was my ECU). All primary fabrication and install was done in-house in LA. Lucky7's dyno in LA is used widely by Nelson at RRR, DK at Garage Life, Kyle Mohan, and many more.

Should check out the build and my build history. I spent time looking at each of yours before even tackling the Renesis II over doing a swap on my flight home from FD Japan.

Nothing but positive words for Turblown, Turblown's System, and Assistance with a serious build.

Internet logic is "because I haven't done it.. it can't be done". 408whp in less than 2 weeks..plus a spare bridge motor within another. Planning, Time Management, and Action. If we burn both motors..good thing REW housings, irons, and rotors are cheaper than Renesis II.

Instead of bashing, it'd be so dope if our small community worked together to push the envelope and learn from each other. Then again... internet logic.

What is the current status of this 408WHP RX-8? A 400WHP Renny is nothing new.

And I'm glad you didn't get the shitty end of the stick from turdblown, that makes those of us who did feel so much better.

This engine blew it has since been rebuilt and is supposedly being broken in and going on the dyno again.

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I can probe for further info later this week since I'm in the same county as the shop and they know the guy I'll see what's new with this thing.

Lol ok James Bond.

Whats new? I dunno.. Sevenstock, Superill, Toyo Calendar Launch, AutoconLB, AutoconLA, Cars & Coffee on the weekend, Getting Groceries... lol.

Supposedly or Apparently you and no one here follows either build IGs. :mchase:

As long as it looks good to the ricers and can be towed to various events I guess that is all that matters.

Learn how to blow an engine in 2 weeks? Why not have the builder learn that 408 and decently reliable is achievable and maybe put a little bit of effort trying to replicate that? Especially with the amount of money clearly dumped into the build.

I try not to do much shit talking on here because I'm a hobby car guy, not a mechanic/builder and I don't like to contribute to a caustic forum attitude. However, the only thing to be learned here is that money can buy a whole lot of shiny parts, but it doesn't necessarily buy you a legendary builder.

Great they built an engine in 2 weeks that lasted another 2 weeks (maybe a month I don't actually know other than the rumors). The problem is, we've got cars here that put out the same number and last a reasonable amount of time. If this was a 500hp+ Renesis it would be more worth talking about the accomplishment of hitting that milestone, regardless of blowing up or not. But it's not. It's a car that was slapped together to give the appearance of an accomplishment, that only accomplished exposing the weakness of the platform. It looks great, but the engines don't last. Thanks for contributing to ever growing zeitgeist of "rotaries are unreliable".

Edit:the following was originally stated, but is incorrect "You say you researched his build, but 9ks car put out the same numbers and still runs 40k mi later. Dynos to prove it, and actual video footage of it still running.". How wrong, I'm not sure but his car is turbo'd and is still running. I just don't know the HP figure.

Well I'm not making 408WHP, but Brettus and others have and for a while at least. I know the owner of the first 400WHP RX-8 and that means dick all because that engine also ate itself in short order so that number means nothing.

But it's the internet and people can claim whatever they want and if they want to create car that looks cool to ricers and also made 400WHP once then they can. To a lot people being on speedhunters means a lot. To me, the fact that the last RX-8 I saw featured on Speedhunters was a complete slow POS means that they all they do is promote fluff.

Personally I think this car is ugly, and I know it doesn't perform and that is all I need to know. But that is just my opinion and we are all allowed to have one here last I checked.

I thought I saw you in the 400 club on the dyno thread. That's my mistake, but still the rest of the point stands.

Also, I was speaking in generalities for the looks great comment. I know you don't like it. I do, and opinions are just that. I mean more of the general population consensus that the 8 looks good but isn't reliable.

Yep, and a lot of people think RX-8's are ugly. This RX-8 and this whole stupid bolt on fender wide body fad crap drives me nuts. But hey, all you need now days is one good dyno run with nice results and you can live off of that forever in the scene today.

Well seven stock was last year so that don't count, hope you make it this year!
Show cars usually get towed to shows and all that other stuff you claim doesn't prove anything.

If you really want to put your money where your mouth is put the car on the dyno show people. most users here are older and have better things to do then follow people on IG. I have an IG and all I see are the same images over and over again. there may be something there but IG as a tool for information is lacking severely, and so are your post there they prove nothing. There are no details!

The reason you're getting so much shit behind this is because you're not showing and proving any of this here you can't expect people to just take your word for it when you have no validity in the community other than a rushed Sema build (not bashing you, or the car. just saying that shit was rushed and you know it.) people in this community want hard details down to the T. They want the good and the bad along with as much detail you can provide. People here are a bit pedantic (meticulous) when it comes to these cars "the devil is in the details"/"God is in the detail".

What I get from this whole situation/build is undertone not do to any individual specifically again just a lack of information.

At the end of the day it's your monkey and you can spank it how you want too. You can disregard the community do to thin skin or nut up and post something significant.

Coming home from work so baffled from some of these responses. I wish I could afford to trailer my cars to shows or own a trailer. The last time these cars saw a trailer was to/from SEMA... SEMA to Sevenstock Overnight... then driven home.

All of these videos/pics driving since sema are on my instagram stories... Events to Gas Stations to Canyons ahead of flying out to Tokyo Auto Salon. Literally up till 72 hours ago cruising PCH. As stated in the article...cars not done yet. Yes, car is definitely going back on the dyno now to begin the next phase of the car... "WHY NOT NOW!" well...while simultaneously preparing my FD for the tail end of time attack season (and testing Turblown's new manifold)... shipping parts for Formula Drift Japan Round 1 this year.... and 2 2018 sema builds. I've got time for you guys though.

Although Instagram is the easiest method of sharing what I'm doing in realtime whilst working 70+ a week...

Dyno sheets? Here you go. Dyno Videos have been on IG for months. I regularly drive this car more than my FD because its comfortable without the racing seats and having AC. :wiggle:

I'm really sorry you guys had bad experiences with Turblown... how that has anything to do with my positive experience using their products.. I have absolutely no idea.

I'm not suggesting this is reliable.. just documenting what I'm doing intentionally to push the limit... 100 back to back runs on a 2009 RX8 with 70K miles I bought a week prior yielded 408whp. 400whp was the limit which and 19psi was the cap, 399whp the goal for the stock motor. Whats the goal for the bridged? 450whp, if we fail.. cool we have a spare. and lastly...Whats the powerplant plan after that? REW, 20B, 2JZ?

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lol and as for bizarre motor rumor weirdo keyboard warrior duder...ComeBackQid.

13 magazine covers, 7 SpeedHunters Articles, 1 car in the Petersen for 4 years, 1 car at Tokyo Auto Salon, 1 car at Tsukuba Circuit, 8 SEMA Builds and 10 years daily driving my FD. Aside from the entire Formula Drift Japan season with this past year. Yep, no validity!

But hey... I'll be your huckleberry tho bro! Since Texas is too far... I live 20 minutes away from your friends at DNA Garage (competing shop to L7, which I assume why this has become a thing at all and as all you need is to plant the seed of doubt for rumors to spread right? good job!). I'm very happy to meet you, talk about the build, and take a selfie there for the forums tomorrow anytime between 8am-11am today and also say Hi to Louie before work.

I know its a bit of a drive for you so 3 hours is a wide enough window right? Put your money where your mouth is..well $20 for my gas anyway. If I had someone to drive the RX7, I'd have em bring that too. lol

Nice dyno pics. I know I am impressed.

Woke up early from my 5 hours of sleep to honor my offer and still no reply from Comebackqid.

Gonna go to DNA Garage in my Pajamas now. I've got no beef with them or anyone.. I've met Louie and his wife. I bet they'll think this is funny.

Follow videos on IG story lol.

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Sorry also forgot the run file list.
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lol Take it easy guys.

Would be very interested to know what indicaters you were following to know to stop at 408 whp . You have plenty of fuel and turbo so why didn't you try for more ?

OH, by passes he meant dyno pulls.

Guys, his car definitely runs, and it looks sweet doing it!

Eyes of the beholder and all.
To each his own.
I don't get the fender flares and penguin wings.

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I'll still take my stock LY GT when it comes to appearance.

Nice job! something of substance!

You misunderstood the post I meant to say you have no validity in this forum as in everything you've done has been done countless times and has failed countless times so for you to come and start saying I did this and that without proof of work people are going to call BS!

*(most don't use IG or follow you there so how the hell is anyone supposed to know anything? Other then a new form member telling vets this works and they done it before with little to no success do you understand?)

There is no competition between those shops no beef etc. So don't know what has you convinced I'm running on either side I've worked with both Fris and Lou many times over the years so you can shut that down! In fact I was going to go there sometime this week just to see who did the rebuild etc. but already spoke with Fris about it so there is no need to be "007 keyboard warrior anymore". I Will gladly meet with you and go over the build this forum turblown the rumors "keyboard warrior" skills etc.

Furthermore I spoke to you before about your build even messaged you on IG "DM" and "Reply" to ask you questions about the build hell I even encouraged you to post everything here! you were very reclusive and didn't share much if anything so how else would one go about getting information other than asking around people are interested in this build regardless of how some may feel about turblown bridged renesis engines etc. but at the time you felt it was a waste share you have your reasons. Anyways DM if you want to meet up, and good luck on the dyno when the time comes!

Jonnyrx7, thanks for posting more pics/details. Good results. Hope the large turbo helps the engine stay together. It's uncommon for renesis motors running this power level to last, and many of us want to see more reliability with turbo builds. As you develop the build, please keep us posted with any failures/weaknesses you identify with your setup.

Jonnyrx7, out of curiosity, what did you de-tune the car to for daily driving? PSI/HP. Just wondering as the renny would not be able to hold the 19PSI for long, and if it does, would not mind to keep track of of how long.

Good job with the 8! Whatever your tastes are, getting 400 rwhp+ out of a renesis is definitely an achievement. If it blows just slap in a defined 4 rotor and scream around at 10,000 RPMs. Problem solved....

Sounds incredible! That is a wide powerband, even if it takes a bit to arrive to full-song (6k) -- not many turbo setups have such a strong 'power shelf' for 3k RPM. I'd be curious how well a EFR7xxx would do -- maybe to bring the power down in the 4k range? If I ever went forced-induction Renesis, I'll be aiming for 350whp and as wide of a band as I can manage that will spool in the 3-4k, even if it tapers off a bit before redline. Not sure there is a turbo that suits that goal with the MSP, but it'd be what I'd want. 400whp is meaty though and has got to have people excited, especially seeing that attention on an S2.

Sorry guys,
Brettus is still crying because when he hated on facebook quite literally everyone shut him down. I guess here ol' macho man still needs that somethin' somethin'. Ironically, the other tag teaming must've been super mad at the videos also because he literally sold his RX8 right after they were posted.

Videos have been up for weeks on ig/facebook. I still don't know what to say lol.

Like I posted up on facespace and IG, results will be in an upcoming issue of Super Street as well as 2 other international publications. Videos have been up for weeks on IG/Facebook.. but I guess I'll upload to youtube just for you guys too. 2 more SEMA projects this year, Formula D Japan, Super Lap Battle, and other obligations... lol as previously recommended follow the social accounts for either of the cars for daily updates or videos of them driven every week while I'm stateside. I initially wanted to do a build thread and break everything down for future owners to pave the way but the inherent rudeness, rumors, hate, and egos combined with my schedule has made me seriously lose interest. This also means with this project against all odds... we're doing something right that no one else has successfully or consistently done before. This wasn't a single individuals effort, it was a collaboration and combined knowledge between 4 businesses to make it happen.

If you're interested in my build feel free to contact me via personal outlets not the forums. From aero to engine and complete builds or my extensive build history.. follow my social or give me a shout. I don't even advertise or promote my personal business as this was just a really fun side project. Turblown is a different entity and quite literally is on the opposite end of the United States but feel free to contact them about my cars turbo kit, ecu setup, and tuning. Still proud to have them on board with the project and we wouldn't have gotten to where we are without them.



Someone can scan the dyno sheet when it comes out in print. :bluesuit:
The funny part is even when the results are out... someone will always still complain about how they would've done something that they didn't. For example, I made it a point to keep the 18x12 -33 TE37's with 275's on the car vs putting stock wheels for the dyno to read 50hp higher. Over 40 documented full boost runs from 8pm-2pm the following day. The results, dyno sheets, videos, brands, and individuals involved speak for themselves.

You want some of the earlier runs? here you go! All of this content was already posted lol.
Like I said, we ran from 8PM till 2PM the following day to meet our deadline and our goals. Put this car through the ringer and then drove it home (Video also on IG dumping flames on the 605 all the way home). Read the final results in a few weeks.

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o snap

Heh ...had the desired effect - although all the above tells me is that the bridgeport didn't work ...or you would have mentioned it rather than just rehashing what you have already posted.
My only criticism was about how bad the spoolup is . I still think it's a good achievement to get to where you are.
It may interest you to know that my setup makes boost 1500rpm sooner and makes more power all on an inferior turbo to what you are running ... No crying here mate.

If you missed the videos online, Japanese Performance Magazine Cover, or the Super Street feature with dyno sheets.

Here are the results with without tuning the intake valves
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tuning the intake port valves had a considerable affect on torque numbers... pay attention to the time we started on the earlier graphs posted until we stopped on the next graph.. we ran this car over 100 pulls 4pm-11am the next day to make our deadline. Here's the comparison from our bone stock baseline to when we finished.
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I've been busy with 2 other new projects featured in the new Mazda issue as well as the rebuild of my REW Powered FD going for 740whp. Once that's done.. its back to playing with the Renesis for 500whp.
Want updates? www.instagram.com/trmnl7 or follow www.tcpmagicusa.com

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Oh here's some antilag flames for the flamers.


And a BTS clip from TunerEvo's vlog.. driving around, random pulls, rev limiter abuse, etc.

For the real gearheads... the Mazda issue is in stores now.

It’s moments like this when I miss 9k ... :lol:

330ft/lbs. That's real cute.

422whp / 330tq without adaptronic controling valves. 422whp / 377tq with.

This is why both graphs are shared. Hows the N54 build? Did one of those years ago. :P

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N55, but it's going great. I love that Z4.

Starting talking BMW stuff and he melts like butter ... lol

Updates?