Hey guys, didn't see this in the S2 performance section, but I had two questions for ya. Just picked up my new '10 8 (only 152miles) and was wondering

A. Is the BHR kit a must must must have at the moment or can I hold out for a while (for ~500 im not exactly ready to drop the money if the stock ones will do me good for a bit)

B. Havn't seen a S2 with the BHR installed, fits?

 

Is it a must have? I'm sure some of our 300+ kit owners can answer that question better than I can.

As for the S2 fitting, yes it does fit and we've already sold them to a few S2 customers.

 

Thanks for the answer and my apologies if I came across like I was questioning the effectiveness of the product, I was moreso trying to prioritize spending for the car's upgrades, just wasn't sure with my low mileage if my money would currently be better spent on another upgrade. O

 

The BHR Igniton Kit is the first mod you should do.

 

Yea you can wait it out a few hundred miles though till your ready to spend the money. But invasion is right, it is definetly a must have and a good first mod.

 

Ive had BHR coils on my R3 for like a year now. Great upgrade.

 

No apology necessary. It's always best to get objective feedback from other owners who bought and installed the kit. RX8pwnage, IIRC, installed the kit on his R3 with 6,000 miles on the clock and still noticed a difference in performance.

There are a lot of "upgrades" that you could get for $485 but most of them are expensive noise makers. If you're looking to prioritize parts I'd put this one pretty close to the top.

 

For reliability peace of mind the BHR ignition system would be at the top of my list.

 

It's a good and solid upgrade over the stock ignition system. You should either consider the coils as a reliability upgrade or a catalyzer as a (little) power upgrade.
Both things will probably fail before time so i'd say get them together or keep in mind that one of the two will just be delayed

Anyway since your car is new and stock you should carefully break it in and get some seat time n the proper places before starting to upgrade things. You'll enjoy your stock rx8 more than you expect and the upgrades will be fully appreciated

 

Mazda changed the coil and mounting design on the S2, together with a hundred or so other things, I will give mine a chance to see what happens, at least until the warranty runs out.

 

The changes to the S2 have been well documented and the actual ignition coils have not been changed.

 

Stock coils are fine for the first 30k - don't see any need to replace them till then ....

 

Right I think the two big things that didn't get fixed between s1 and s2 are the coils and the lack of welds in the clutch assembly

 

I am not sure how there is going to be a problem with the S2 clutch assembly. The stock clutch in my '10 R3 is very soft compared to the couple of S1 cars I have driven.

Maybe it's because they have had their clutch replaced but if they are stock clutches they sure have a huge amount of pedal effort

 

The clutch pedal base weak welds is the issue. There have been many failed spot welds, with DIY solutions being add'l welding and/or the Race Roots reinforcement bracket.

 

where do i purchased the BHR Ignition ? i m from aus

 

don't forget that if you pull your stock coils soon to upgrade to the BHR, they'll have a decent resale value. so if you're not replacing bad coils, you can almost factor that discount of the resale amount of your old coils into the net price to upgrade.

 

For all international orders please email charles@blackhaloracing.com and he will give you instructions on where to send payment and what the cost will be with international shipping.

Domestic ordering or more information can be found on our Ignition Upgrade Product Page.

 

That is an interesting point, but exactly how much do you think you could sell stock coils for? Forum or ebay? I only have 500 miles on these stocks

 

you could probably get anywhere from $100-$120 for them and your best bet would be the forum.

 

Flashwing,

This ignition would void the factory warrenty, yes?

 

Yes and no.

Technically, by law provided your aftermarket part does not cause damage to any other components of the car then it should not violate your warranty.

We've had dealerships give people static for our kit and we've had some dealerships that not only were cool with it but actually uninstalled and reinstalled the kit during an engine replacement.

You might run into a dealer that tells you our kit violates your warranty. Mazda's tech line is aware of our kit per a couple situations that have come our way and in all those instances the techs approved the engine replacement.

If you're concerned about getting static from techs I wouldn't be but you should be prepared for it in either circumstance.

 

Right, and I dont condone fraudulent activity, but any time you do install modifications that the dealer may find as a 'risk', you should always have some sort of backout plan. For example, if you notice that your engine is running funny and you need to take it to the dealer, and you have the chance, it would probably be best to replace the stock coils. Again, users on this forum have proven that the coils are quality coils that actually improve engine life, but it gives the dealer one less thing to think about when deciding the best course of action.

 

^ I kept my stock coils and cables. If I were to have an issue I'd just swap them back in.

btw: proof of BHR kit enhanced reliability: Last eve, in very hot and humid weather, I self-stalled transitioning into reverse while backing into the garage (man, I haven't done that in a long time). I turned the key and it restarted first flywheel rotation. So much for "low compression hard restart when hot."

 

Is it necessary to get new spark plugs with the kit if mine is practically brand new?

Mine has 2,000 miles on it.

thanx guys