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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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will 19's rub?

i wanna run a set of 19x8.5, 19x8.5. i was wondering if they would rub at all.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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if the offset is rignt then it won't.

My friend have 20X9 all around offset i think is 22 or 24.

Rub only a little at the back. but because he lowed his car to the ground. ^_^
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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No. That is what i have on my car. As long as you haven't dropped your car more than an inch.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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It's really all about the offset so long as you keep your wheel/tire combo as close to stock as possible. Use an offset calculator and tire size calculator to ensure you get an offset and tire size that keeps you as close to stock as possible and you will be fine. I run 19x8.5's with 245/35/19's and have done a max drop with my coilovers of over an inch, they have never rubbed even with a full load.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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like suggested... as long as you have the correct offset
you can make 17" rub with wrong offset too
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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I have +35 mm offsets on my rims. No rubbing. The front is especially high up, but if you drop over an inch with a 9.5 inch rim and a similar to stock or slightly greater (lower positive #) offset you will have a chance to rub. On my rims, the back tires are barely a fingers width/thickness from the bottom lip of the car (I have the Racing Beat springs which drop the car about .5"). Anything like 1.25" or 1.5" and you may very well rub.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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I thought they were asking about 19x8.5's, if you want to know re: 19x9.5's then Fanman is your guy. Either way, the wheel and offset calculators can give you a good idea of what will work. Cheers.

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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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it also depends on how stiff your coilovers are gonna be.. if you are going that route...

ive seen peeps at drift shows with their tires sticking out of the fender and asked them the rub Q? and they said almost never because they are running stiff coilovers with high spring rates...

offset ,suspension and width all come to play...
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Relying on the stiffness of your suspension to prevent rubbing is ghetto. Almost never is not never. The best way to ensure no rub is to stay as close to stock wheel dimension as possible. Don't hope that your spring stiffness will save you.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 03:48 AM
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not talking about spring stiffness only... i also talked about dampening.. and most drift cars have this setup.. i dont see the so called "ghetto" part about it??

i like a rock hard suspension.. awesome feedback.. and the benfits are that you can go as low as you want without rubbing.. unless you take a ridiculously hard turn which in daily driving or "normal" drifting is never!

doing something other than stock doesnt mean "ghetto".

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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willjs7, you going drifting or like a bone jarring hard ride, if not, don't expect your suspension to be much of a factor in preventing rubbing. Also, dampening is not going to prevent rubbing per se as it is the springs that "maintain ride height, effect body motion (such as pitch and roll) and they affect ride quality as well as adhesion." For suspension basics see: http://www.tokicogasshocks.com/suspension.html. A good suspension setup, be it for the track or road, does not need to be rock hard esp. to give feedback. If you have a personal preference that is fine. My ride is not rock hard but is firm, has excellent feedback, and I can drop it well into the wheel wells and NEVER EVER rub regardless of how I drive or the load. It may hit the bump stops but it aint gonna rub.

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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would 19x8.5+22 and 19.9.5 +34 rub??
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 02:53 AM
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From my experience those offsets above would rub. If running 245/35 and 275/30/19 a 8.5" +35 and 9.5" +45ish is the limit with unmodified fenders. The offsets you've shown above are almost 350z fitments.

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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 03:41 AM
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I have +32mm 8.5" up front & +35mm 9.5" in the rears and they fit fine. +22 mm would stick out a bit in the front. Like I said, unless you drop your car 1.25" to 1.5" you can have 245's (front) & 275's (rear) and you shouldn't have any issues.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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i think its depend on what rims we use,because different rims will get different offset. For example Volk GT-V and CE28N have different offset although your Front wheel is 19x8.5 and Rear 19x9.5
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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You can drop it to the floor if you want with 35mm offset, which is the minimum correct amount.
You can run up to 42mm.

I'm using 19x8 on a 35 mm offset and I have a 1/2 or more of fender clearance.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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I can't believe that no one mentioned hard driving. Using highway corners and twisties in those special locations in the country you will rub. I believe it is the width that counts not the height. So when it comes to 19" you will be close, perhaps even rub.

The main issue is road conditions, potholes opposite bank turns rough surfaces and the degree of the turns.

However, if you plan on tracking the car, becareful.

Chicago NewYork and Mexico have some bad pothole roads. Depends upon where you are driving.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Nope. With a 38mm offset or greater on a 8", there will be no rubbing even under full deflection.
On an 8.5", you will probably need the full 45mm.
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