Notices
Series I Wheels, Tires, Brakes & Suspension

What are the most responsive tires? (stock wheels)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 04-24-2007, 09:44 PM
  #1  
Purveyor of fine bass
Thread Starter
 
Astral's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Worcester, MA
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
What are the most responsive tires? (stock wheels)

What are most responsive tires in either the stock 225/45/18 size or (preferably) the 245/40/18 size? (going over the stock wheels)

I'm looking for the quickest possible response, maximum tightness--i.e. best "fun steering" feel (for the twisties). I don't care if it's not the best dry grip possible, not going to track/autox the car. A little more wet grip is better than a little more dry grip.

Getting Koni SAs and Tein S-Techs soon, and new tires a few months after.

Price should be less than $200...


Some thoughts I had:

I was all gung-ho about Falken RT615's in 245/40/18 (great dry grip, wider looks), but I've been reading about the soft sidewall from some members here (advertised as stiff sidewall online though??)

Then I read that going wider (245) on a stock rim is not better for responsiveness, so there go my hopes of having a nicer-looking wider tire. Does this effect hold equally for all the tires? Or are some maybe very similar in feel in 245/40/18 vs in 225/45/18?

I forget the exact reasoning that I read about, but current candidate is Toyo Proxes T1R... better in wet than RT615s and apparently more responsive.

Would love to hear more opinions though.
Old 04-24-2007, 10:27 PM
  #2  
Extraordinary Engineering
 
DarkBrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Burls On
Posts: 4,733
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
I just put 225-45-18 RE050A Pole Position tires on mine and they are awesome in terms of grip (wet and dry) and razor sharp response. They are reasonably quiet but do transmit road irregularities through the stiff sidewalls. Nothing unpleasant IMO
Paid under $700 for four at tirerack.com.

Last edited by DarkBrew; 04-24-2007 at 10:31 PM.
Old 04-24-2007, 10:38 PM
  #3  
road warrior
 
LionZoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Oakland and Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,861
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Well, if you want a little wider i'd suggest the 235/40-18 Azenis RT615s. I just ordered a set of 225/45-18 Advan Neova AD07s so I'll give my impressions after I get them mounted. However, they are a bit over your budget of $200 per tire.
Old 04-25-2007, 05:06 AM
  #4  
Book em' Dano
 
dbright007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Smyrna, GA
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I won't claim to be a know it all - I have 245/40/18 Toyo T1R's, just broken in,- and they grip like a *****. No issues in the wet. Ran them at 41 psi for an autox and they really showed up. I run them at normal psi for daily, and pump them up to 36 when I want to do a country run.
You'll get better advice from someone who has run different types, but I don't have a bad thing to say about Toyo.
Old 04-25-2007, 09:12 AM
  #5  
Carbonormous
 
savedsol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 882
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I just bought the RE-01R in 245/40 - impressions to come after Saturdays installation. $217/tire though.
Old 04-25-2007, 09:15 AM
  #6  
Got Ings?
iTrader: (1)
 
ac3mastuh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Missoula, MT
Posts: 1,241
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I have the toyo t1r in 225/45 and its a wonderful tire. Extremely responsive if that's what you're looking for. I got mine for $166/tire installed
Old 04-25-2007, 11:50 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
Scorpio8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Whatever tire you get, you're going to love the Koni's & S-Techs. I just got 'em and the handling is scary-good.
Old 04-25-2007, 02:49 PM
  #8  
Conflicted
 
spd frk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stouffville
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have the T1R's also, in 245/40/18. They are a wicked step up from the stock RE050A's. They grip harder, less flex, silent when sliding. Good in the wet and even a dusting of snow.
Old 04-25-2007, 03:04 PM
  #9  
for hire
 
h-khunterkiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: broward
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i like kumhos and i believed they have saved my life
Old 04-25-2007, 04:28 PM
  #10  
Registered
 
Aero8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: EVOLV-Chicago
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
can I ask where you guys bought the toyo's from? also, if I got them in the stock size, anyone think there would be a large difference from the reviews you have made of them.
Old 04-25-2007, 04:51 PM
  #11  
Registered
 
OnRails's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Reconsider the RT-615 ! I love mine and they have great dry performance and are ok in the wet as well. I just ran a track day in the rain with them and they worked great. To be honest I was surprised at how well they actually did.
Old 04-25-2007, 06:19 PM
  #12  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
r0tor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 3,754
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by spd frk
I have the T1R's also, in 245/40/18. They are a wicked step up from the stock RE050A's. They grip harder, less flex, silent when sliding. Good in the wet and even a dusting of snow.
stock are RE040's... I have RE050A's and they have all the reflexes of the 40's with improved grip and less noise
Old 05-09-2007, 04:43 PM
  #13  
Nurburgring Camera Whore
 
StuttgartRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have the RT-615 in 225/45-18 and have had 4 very fast laps on the Nurburgring (about 13 miles each lap) and they have held up fine for that and daily driving.

My previous Bridgestones had 8 laps of the Nurburgring and I was sliding around everywhere with those. The falkens seemed like they stuck to the track better.
Old 05-09-2007, 04:59 PM
  #14  
Purveyor of fine bass
Thread Starter
 
Astral's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Worcester, MA
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Indeed seems that the RT-615s have awesome grip. I am looking for top responsiveness, rather than top grip, though.
Old 05-09-2007, 06:07 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
johnnywfg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
running the 225/45/18 RT-615, there is nothing soft about the sidewall at all... its probably the stiffest sidewall compared to the toyo's or the Kumho's.. or the horrible KDW.. potenza has a decently stiff sidewall.

Ive had mine for a few months now, and im totally addicted to them. I track the car a few times a year, and i drive the Kanan/Mulholland lookout point drive every sunday.. most of the tuners that stop at lookout point are sporting rt-615 also, (my buddy with an Evo has em so wide one of his is like two of my tires..)

i was nervous about getting the rt-615 at first.. but im totally satisfied.
Quiet, smooth,awesome response, insane grip,great sidewall i can run a lower pressure than normal, wet aint so hot.. but its cali.

even sported em to mammoth!, and went on some backtrail hikes where the drive up was a horrible gravel/pebble road.. thought for sure i was gona pop one.
-and temps in the 20's
Old 05-09-2007, 07:12 PM
  #16  
road warrior
 
LionZoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Oakland and Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,861
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
I just put on my 225/45-18 Advan Neova AD07s on 18x8 WedsSport TC005s last week. I'm still breaking them in, but will have a report once they're good to go and I've had a couple runs with them.
Old 05-09-2007, 09:11 PM
  #17  
Momentum Keeps Me Going
 
Spin9k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 5,036
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Some RT-615s sizes may not be but mine said..."reinforced" written on them and they certainly were stiff sidewalls even thou they were comfortable riding. They were 235/40/18 and fit fine on the stock wheels with excellent results, wet or dry on and off track. I liked them so much I got the 275/35/18 last year on 18x9.5 Enkeis.

The biggest difference was the added handling stability feeling the wider tires gave on track. Plus they look more awesome
Attached Thumbnails What are the most responsive tires? (stock wheels)-reinf.jpg   What are the most responsive tires? (stock wheels)-size.jpg  

Last edited by Spin9k; 05-09-2007 at 09:14 PM.
Old 05-09-2007, 09:50 PM
  #18  
Registered User
 
puff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i've been using Yokohama AD07 for years and they are even better than the RE-01Rs, even in wet conditions
Old 05-10-2007, 07:54 AM
  #19  
Registered
 
shinronin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Oreland, PA
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by puff
i've been using Yokohama AD07 for years and they are even better than the RE-01Rs, even in wet conditions
can you be more specific? tirerack's test has them very closely matched. i autox'd on the ad07 last season (255/40-17) and this season (265/35-18).
Old 05-10-2007, 08:57 AM
  #20  
Got Ings?
iTrader: (1)
 
ac3mastuh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Missoula, MT
Posts: 1,241
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
the toyo t1r's I had on my car in 225/45 were great tires, excellent responsiveness and they were alot better than the re040's we had from the factory
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
codesterb91
RX-8 Parts For Sale/Wanted
2
11-16-2015 05:57 PM
dweezil22
NE For Sale/Wanted
12
09-09-2015 10:50 AM
Kahl
RX-8 Parts For Sale/Wanted
5
08-20-2015 11:49 PM
Mr.Durden
RX-8's For Sale/Wanted
4
08-12-2015 02:21 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: What are the most responsive tires? (stock wheels)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 PM.