zaglo6204

Where can I find the T1-R's? Toyo's are so hard to find.....the only places that I have found might list a TOYO logo, but no tires! I'm past 25K on my stock tires, & I will probably need some within the next few months or so. I have looked throughout the forum (search...), but no luck. I would really appreciate your help guys.

sstricker

http://www.edgeracing.com/2004/Mazda/RX8/tires/18/

zaglo6204

thanks man.... ive been there before, but i forgot to check them this time around. appreciate it.

Ike

I just ordered some wheels and tires from them and they're backed up as hell due to their sale. If you want them whintin a few days it's best to look elsewhere. I will say that the people I spoke with when ordering were very helpful and knowledgable.

zaglo6204

thanks for the heads up ike. fortunately, there's no big hurry. by the way, hows the evo treatin you? i ALMOST bought an sti last week......it was a hell of a deal, but the family was ready to ship me to north korea when i mentioned it.

XDEEDUBBX

i have some on order as well..i'll post pics when they come in. I'm getting mine from optionsautosalon.com

zaglo6204

alright, thanks. im stuck between the st615 & the T1-R. lowest price i found for the azeni was 155, & 165ish for the toyo. treadwear ratings are 200 & 280 respectively, so i dunno. people seem to think the st615 is about the stickiest tire out there, but is it that much better than the T1-R?

lazi

stickiest would probably be the azenis. but overall treadwear and ride you would probably go for the toyos. i would. azenis cost too much for our type of driving. not worth it

zaglo6204

wait, the azenis ARE the rt-615s. i'll assume you mean the FALKENS ARE STICKIER THAN THE TOYOS. my question is:
is the difference in stickiness great enough to overcome the advantage the toyos have in treadwear?
i know that there is a trade off, but i just dont know where to draw the line. i will be tracking the car some, but not actually in competition or anything, so this is mostly street use.

lazi

mixed up on my words sorry. yea then i'd suggest the toyos overall

zaglo6204

cool. thats what i was leaning towards, & unless xdeedubbx comes up with some terrible review of them, then i think thats what ill go with. what about you & those lovely advans? do you know what tires you are gonna wrap them in when you scrounge up those pennies?

lazi

yeah most likely the yokohama AVS ES100's . thats wut im probably going with

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odel=AVS+ES100

TeamRX8

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they suck

lazi

based on what, how do they suck? all i've seen with you is gay *** remarks. if you think "they suck" then tell me why?

toca

funny i have the 615s on for 4000 miles and done a little track and canyan runs on them they still look good

L8APEX

the yokos are well known to wear fast once past 50%, they are also known to get progressively louder. IMO, i would say they suck too. I would not put them on a friends car, much less my own. If you paid full price, or even close to full price for those wheels, then oyu should be able to get a decent set of tires to go on them.

now, the Azenis are a different story, I love mine. Quiet, smooth ride, grip to spare, and they were not 250 bucks each. I will probably go through 2 sets in a year, but that is my fault, too much track time.

Silver8x06

Toyo T1 are really GOOD!!!!

L8APEX

qualify that statement, do you have them on your car, in what way are they good? What are they GOOD in comparison to? Just saying it means nothing.

zaglo6204

L8APEX, are you running the 615's, or an older azeni (115, 215, or whatever)? Also, do you have any input with the Toyo's, even though it sounds like you haven't used them before? Finally, I am probably going to be getting Tein Flex's (just like you!) sometime this spring. Should that affect my decision in any way? Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I'm getting the most for my $$$.

L8APEX

I am running the 615's, in the 245-40 size. I love them. as mentioned previously. no, i do not have any personal experience on the Toyo T1-R, a friend has the T1-s, and speaks highly of them. That is why I wanted silver8x06 to explain his comments. I will be in the need for everyday street tires sometime this spring, and am trying to figure that one out, just like everyone else.

Should tires affect your suspension, and vice versa. depends. what do you do with the car, what do you plan to do with the car. what is your goal.

with my current configuration, during regular driving, i am not suing the extra width on my rear tires, for a couple reasons. i run a lot of negative camber in the rear, and the TEINS are pretty stiff, and i do not have them at full soft for everyday use. Under hard cornering and loading, the outside of the tire gets used.

So, do you need the extra width, maybe. I need it for autocross and track use. If you dont want to go through tires quick, look at something a little harder, with a higher treadwear rating. What you are matching the tires up to on the car, plays a big part IMO, poorly matched equipment, will result in a poor handling car. But that is just my point of view, it could be wrong.

zaglo6204

thanks L8APEX-
im really not sure what direction im taking this car. i feel like i want more power, but i dont know if i really want to spend the huge amount of money that is necessary to have it reliably. i might settle for an RP supercat, REVi intake, & spend some money to make the suspension as great as possible. this is a daily driver, & having 400RWHP isn't all that necessary.

either way though, i don't plan on turbo/supercharging until my warranty is up, which wont be for a few years, so in the mean time i'll go through a couple sets of tires & maybe experiment a little bit to find out what works for me.

RL8

Try shooting an email to sales@wheelautohaus.com, they have very good pricing on Toyos and their shipping is reasonable!

\\Konig\\

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Ya I bought my Toyo T1R's from wheelautohaus. I got them within a week.

zaglo6204

RL8: thanks. i sent them one last night.

Konig, how much did you pay for them, & what size did you get? are they for the stock rims?

GeorgeH

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I've got T1-Rs on my '95 Miata and my '04 RX-8. On the '8, I think they are an excellent tire for day-to-day "spirited" driving. Turn-in is on par with the OEM Bridgestones, and grip is at least as good if not better. Hydroplane resistance and wet grip is fantastic - in the wet, I can pull away from a stop, making a 90 degree turn while merging enthusiasticlly with traffic, pedal down in 1st gear and only get a little wheelspin. We've had a complete deluge here recently in PDX and on the rutted freeways the Toyos just hammer right through. Very quiet as well, and they don't tramline nearly as bad as my Bridgestones did when they were half-worn.

Downsides? They do develop more slip angle once you are over about 70% max grip than the Bridgestones did. This means you end up using more steering lock when cornering hard. It's a bit disconcerting at first, but you get used to it and then it becomes second nature. I'm sure the 615s would have more grip (I had 215s on my Miata at one point) and I wouldn't reccomend the Toyos for somebody making a serious attempt at dominating their local street tire autocross class, but anything short of that and they are great.