Tokico d specs on e-bay
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I just got some on Ebay a few weeks ago for near that price and they were legit and brand new. What seller are you looking at?
Make sure you order the adjuster cables from Mazdatrix- they make the rears so much easier to adjust.
Make sure you order the adjuster cables from Mazdatrix- they make the rears so much easier to adjust.
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Wow, great deal on the D-Specs. I was trying to decide between these and the Koni's, but at this price, I might have to go with the D-Specs. 7 more hours to decide...
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I trying to decide the same. He has 5 sets, so i wouldn't worry. I am leaning tward the d-specs also. I've got the h-techs. Anyone have htech with the d-specs?
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I just ordered the Koni Yellows from them for $545 w/free shipping have recieved tracking # and am awaiting there arrival. Just can't see getting the Tokico's especially since the Koni's have a lifetime warranty and should you have to send them out they are right here in the States.
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Tokico's have a lifetime warranty as well, and you ship them to a US address. On top of that, you can adjust the rears without taking your car apart. The real discussion between the two is the damping curve and adjustability, not price or warranty.
As I said- "Make sure you order the adjuster cables from Mazdatrix". Mazdatrix is the site. GOOGLE. They're about $30 shipped.
And that's who I bought mine from. He's always got them for sale so you can decide whenever.
I have the H-techs, but I did Tokicos, H-techs, RB sway bars, brake pads, and brake lines all the same time, so I can't directly say how they perform on thier own, but I like the setup overall for not seeming any more harsh than stock. If you want a crazy track machine, you'll want more than the H's.
As I said- "Make sure you order the adjuster cables from Mazdatrix". Mazdatrix is the site. GOOGLE. They're about $30 shipped.
And that's who I bought mine from. He's always got them for sale so you can decide whenever.
I have the H-techs, but I did Tokicos, H-techs, RB sway bars, brake pads, and brake lines all the same time, so I can't directly say how they perform on thier own, but I like the setup overall for not seeming any more harsh than stock. If you want a crazy track machine, you'll want more than the H's.
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I just did a VIR weekend with new Tokicos on stock springs, and I am very pleased with them. There was very little roll in the corners, and it was much steadier at speeds up to 120 mph. As long as you get the extension cables for the back, you can adjust all shocks in about 5 minutes.
The only problem I found is when I used the little tool to adjust the front shocks to full soft after the weekend. I had to loosen the shock tower brace to have enough space to get the tool off the top of the shock.
Other than that, they rock.
The only problem I found is when I used the little tool to adjust the front shocks to full soft after the weekend. I had to loosen the shock tower brace to have enough space to get the tool off the top of the shock.
Other than that, they rock.
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Just get a long 3mm hex wench and you can adjust the Tockicos with the strut bar still on the car. The included tool doesn't work though.
I just tracked my D-specs today and they did awesome on a pretty rough track. Ended up running them at 2.0 turns all around. Smooth and stable no matter what I threw at them.
I just tracked my D-specs today and they did awesome on a pretty rough track. Ended up running them at 2.0 turns all around. Smooth and stable no matter what I threw at them.
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D-spec = bad adjustment. It changes compression and dampening at the same time.
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I have only met two people in 20 years that would have a clue as to how to properly valve a shock in each direction independently.
More to the point - the relationship between bound and rebound is pretty well balanced on most shocks right out of the box. Simply moving the whole curve up or down is more than suffcient for virtually any application unless you are driving for a multi-million dollar race team. Of course, you wouldn't be using a production shock for that, to begin with...
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The Konis adjust both ways at the same time. So does Tein Flex. So does the JIC Magic kit. Same with the Tanabes.
In fact, I don't know of any shocks for the RX-8 that are seperatley adjustable. Which ones are?
In fact, I don't know of any shocks for the RX-8 that are seperatley adjustable. Which ones are?
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[QUOTE=dsmdriver]Just get a long 3mm hex wench and you can adjust the Tockicos with the strut bar still on the car. The included tool doesn't work though.[QUOTE]
Interesting - on my '04, I can use the Tokico tool without loosening the tower bar. You do have to slide the hex end in at an angle first, but then it pops in no problem.
What year is your RX-8? I wonder if the clearences changed.
As for the compression damping argument, I've posted curve for the rear in another thread and the compression damping changes very little, as compared to the rebound. It's just not an issue and as others have said, many adjustable dampers give a slight increase in compression damping as you stiffen the shocks.
Interesting - on my '04, I can use the Tokico tool without loosening the tower bar. You do have to slide the hex end in at an angle first, but then it pops in no problem.
What year is your RX-8? I wonder if the clearences changed.
As for the compression damping argument, I've posted curve for the rear in another thread and the compression damping changes very little, as compared to the rebound. It's just not an issue and as others have said, many adjustable dampers give a slight increase in compression damping as you stiffen the shocks.
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Sure didn't look like the tool would fit, but I didn't try for more than a few seconds. A standard allen wrench fits so easily, is much harder to drop, and the angle at the end makes it really easy to count turns.
My car's an '04.
My car's an '04.
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The Konis adjust both ways at the same time. So does Tein Flex. So does the JIC Magic kit. Same with the Tanabes.
In fact, I don't know of any shocks for the RX-8 that are seperatley adjustable. Which ones are?
In fact, I don't know of any shocks for the RX-8 that are seperatley adjustable. Which ones are?
There's plenty of them out there. you just have to look.
I would go with KW Variant 3
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So what you're saying is that you either need to spend $2K or go home?
Kind of over the top to tell someone that everything below a full coilover setup just flat out sucks. Since you're so into great handling, how come you went with sways before shocks? Sways are almost always used to tune shocks...
Kind of over the top to tell someone that everything below a full coilover setup just flat out sucks. Since you're so into great handling, how come you went with sways before shocks? Sways are almost always used to tune shocks...
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[QUOTE=GeorgeH][QUOTE=dsmdriver]Just get a long 3mm hex wench and you can adjust the Tockicos with the strut bar still on the car. The included tool doesn't work though.
Interesting - on my '04, I can use the Tokico tool without loosening the tower bar. You do have to slide the hex end in at an angle first, but then it pops in no problem.
What year is your RX-8? I wonder if the clearences changed.
Mine is an 05. When the shock is set more towards firm, no problem. But when it's backed out to full soft I can't get the tool out without loosening the tower bar. No big deal though, it only takes a minute longer.
Interesting - on my '04, I can use the Tokico tool without loosening the tower bar. You do have to slide the hex end in at an angle first, but then it pops in no problem.
What year is your RX-8? I wonder if the clearences changed.
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The Konis adjust both ways at the same time.
In fact, I don't know of any shocks for the RX-8 that are seperatley adjustable. Which ones are?
In fact, I don't know of any shocks for the RX-8 that are seperatley adjustable. Which ones are?
Koni has an off the shelf koni sport for the RX8 that is rebound only. You can special order from Koni , Tripoint or True Choice a set of Koni doubles for the RX8.
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