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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Has anyone Auto X with both bars on full stiff and/or front full soft and rear stiff? How does the car handle? too sensitive?

Thinking of changing to one of the two settings for next event
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Again, the settings you end up using will all depend on your EXACT setup, including alignment, etc. I presently run full stiff front and full soft rear. Sometiomes it needs to be adjusted depending on the surface grip, but my setup is unique from anyone else's here ...

and I generally don't have to use the hex key unless the threads get boogered up on the endlink studs. The nut will usually tighten down without the hex if the threads are in good shape, at least they do for me. I've noted before that I don't like the OE endlinks because it uses a hex key rather than a hex head, but still have not put together a good set of heims, not enough hours in the day or days in the week lately ...

sounds like maybe you had the wrong hex I think there is a 5.5mm size, but I'm not entirely sure which one the endlink uses, I just use the hex wrench that fits in there tight you don't have to go ***** out on tightening it down either, if you do sooner or later you'll strip or gall the stud threads, ask me how I know

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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naw my key was right it fit like a glove. perhaps i will also invest in a combination wrench with a 6 point box end instead of 12. one of these days i should pick up some awr links as well.

so i guess you replaced your jacked up endlink with another stocker?
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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I'm intending to, I actually forgot about it until yesterday, ran two events with it like that
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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not enough hours in the day or days in the week lately ...
If you sleep for 2 hours every 8 hours you will have more time in your day than you know what to do with...takes about 3 weeks to adjust to it tho...
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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damn abbid im jealous. i hope mine come today too
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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I'll break them in for you if you'd like.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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i ordered my front sway yesterday, but the rear is out of stock... is anyone else waiting for them to come in? if so, how long have you been waiting?

any other recommended vendors?

also: props to polak for the discount code, that was awesome <3
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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I had to wait for my PT sways for about 4 weeks...they had the same "out-of-stock" issue a couple of months ago when I ordered...but it was worth the wait...especially after my Tanabe nightmare...I thought I'd never get a rear bar on her.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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order from www.neverenoughauto.com i believe they have bars in stock. great people too
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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dammit abbid im jealous! my bars still didnt come in! im crossing for today tho since test n tune is tomorrow
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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my bars arrived today, installed them as soon as i got home from work. took a tiny bit less than 4 hours. the single thing that took up the most time was the 2 plastic clips at the back of the undertray. they just wouldnt come out, i didnt want to cut them out but i ended up doing that anyway cuz it took too long. pain in the *** number 2 was wiggling the stock bar out. its like a puzzle, u bust ur brains figuring it out, then u can do it no sweat lol

tomorrow is test n tune. i hope to dial in the sways. i also hope teamrx8's method of adjustment works for me, but maybe ill bring a jack just in case.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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It is like the hidden item in a picture, once you see them you can't help but see them.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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anybody here have these bars on a stock rx8? i wonder how a stock rx8 set to full soft would behave...oversteer? understeer? neutral?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by scsi
anybody here have these bars on a stock rx8? i wonder how a stock rx8 set to full soft would behave...oversteer? understeer? neutral?
mine will be an otherwise stock with these sways, what else have you done?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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ive got coilovers, rpf1s, azenis, thats the bigger things


i had a test n tune today. i cant figure out for the life of me how the heck you use different holes on each side of the front bar with the OEM endlinks. im pretty sure you'll need adjustable endlinks to pull this off. if im wrong, please explain!
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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I believe you need adjustable endlinks that way you can line things up with out putting the endlink through some serious crap..
I have both Front / Rear Agency Power endlinks. (Btw, only the fronts are adjustable. You dont need to adjustables in the rear.) I am pleased with the over all design & performance.

You can check them out through my sig..
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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I've been able to use all the front bar holes with non-adjustable endlinks, sometimes one might be hard, but generally the holes are large enough and on a horizontal plane and the endlinks long enough to accomodate getting them into different positions

the rear is different though, you'll need to take them both loose first, then put them in the same positions without adjustable endlinks

otherwise enough with the worrying and theory, get out there and acquire some practical experience
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scsi
ive got coilovers, rpf1s, azenis, thats the bigger things


i had a test n tune today. i cant figure out for the life of me how the heck you use different holes on each side of the front bar with the OEM endlinks. im pretty sure you'll need adjustable endlinks to pull this off. if im wrong, please explain!
you can preload the bar to whatever you want. just jack the front assembly up while you push the endlink into the holes.

Endlnks are subjected to a pulling force, not a rotational one. It doesnt matter what direction they are facing for them to do their job.

That being said, the weakest part of the endlink is going to be the screw and its possibility of it being sheared under load. The endlink itself could be 3 inches thick, but it wouldnt matter if it used stock size bolts to connect to the swaybar.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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i thought preloading the bar is typically undesirable. seems that adjustable endlinks would be the way to go.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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preloading?

I just threw the em on there.. Hmmm. Ha Ha
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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i thought preloading the bar is typically undesirable. seems that adjustable endlinks would be the way to go.
the preload in this case is in the operational direction of the swaybar.

Therefore the load would be placed on the springs which is where it goes anyways.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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this is going to be the longest afternoon ever

my rear hasn't even shipped yet, how bad is it to put on my front sways without the rear, given that i keep to daily driving? i almost want to wait just to have the full contrast/compare drive
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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nothing bad will happen, just beware of oversteer
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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actually youll have to beware of understeer. no harm in putting the front bar in first besides that. itll save u time later if you have it now. the rear bar can be done with the wheels on the car and takes less than an hour.
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