stance coilovers help...
03-31-2011, 11:46 PM
#28
Just to add to this, Adam and crew at Thmotorsports addressed all my concerns smoothly and w/o issue, we probably could have communicated better but it's not entirely their fault. (sadly I'm so swamped during the day at work I have to rely on email alot) So once I got on the phone with people we got it all worked out no problem, I found out the whiteline front end links are back ordered until the end of April, so anyone else ordering those be prepared to wait unless you find a place that has them in stock. (part # klc145)
In regards to the spring lengths, according the Scott at Stance they originally came with 150mm springs, this was what was sent to me via email after a phone conversation:
"....After speaking to my boss, we have switched from the 200mm spring to the 175mm on all future sets of Rx8 coilovers. Originally the RX8 GR+ came with a 150mm length rear spring. We did some testing and realized there were no adverse effects to running a 175mm spring. We had people telling us that the 200mm length spring drastically limited how low you can adjust the coilovers."
So I guess I'll be sticking to the 175's and if they don't work out I'll try and get some 200's, or I'll just try something else altogether. (which seems a bit drastic)
So thanks to Stance and Adam and Rob at Thmotorsports for helping explain and clear things up, from my end it looked like I had gotten wrong stuff, was missing stuff, and that everything was pretty screwed up, in actuality it wasn't as bad as it seemed at all, just needed some communication/explaining etc.
In regards to the spring lengths, according the Scott at Stance they originally came with 150mm springs, this was what was sent to me via email after a phone conversation:
"....After speaking to my boss, we have switched from the 200mm spring to the 175mm on all future sets of Rx8 coilovers. Originally the RX8 GR+ came with a 150mm length rear spring. We did some testing and realized there were no adverse effects to running a 175mm spring. We had people telling us that the 200mm length spring drastically limited how low you can adjust the coilovers."
So I guess I'll be sticking to the 175's and if they don't work out I'll try and get some 200's, or I'll just try something else altogether. (which seems a bit drastic)
So thanks to Stance and Adam and Rob at Thmotorsports for helping explain and clear things up, from my end it looked like I had gotten wrong stuff, was missing stuff, and that everything was pretty screwed up, in actuality it wasn't as bad as it seemed at all, just needed some communication/explaining etc.
04-01-2011, 12:26 PM
#30
Just to add to this, Adam and crew at Thmotorsports addressed all my concerns smoothly and w/o issue, we probably could have communicated better but it's not entirely their fault. (sadly I'm so swamped during the day at work I have to rely on email alot) So once I got on the phone with people we got it all worked out no problem, I found out the whiteline front end links are back ordered until the end of April, so anyone else ordering those be prepared to wait unless you find a place that has them in stock. (part # klc145)
In regards to the spring lengths, according the Scott at Stance they originally came with 150mm springs, this was what was sent to me via email after a phone conversation:
"....After speaking to my boss, we have switched from the 200mm spring to the 175mm on all future sets of Rx8 coilovers. Originally the RX8 GR+ came with a 150mm length rear spring. We did some testing and realized there were no adverse effects to running a 175mm spring. We had people telling us that the 200mm length spring drastically limited how low you can adjust the coilovers."
So I guess I'll be sticking to the 175's and if they don't work out I'll try and get some 200's, or I'll just try something else altogether. (which seems a bit drastic)
So thanks to Stance and Adam and Rob at Thmotorsports for helping explain and clear things up, from my end it looked like I had gotten wrong stuff, was missing stuff, and that everything was pretty screwed up, in actuality it wasn't as bad as it seemed at all, just needed some communication/explaining etc.
In regards to the spring lengths, according the Scott at Stance they originally came with 150mm springs, this was what was sent to me via email after a phone conversation:
"....After speaking to my boss, we have switched from the 200mm spring to the 175mm on all future sets of Rx8 coilovers. Originally the RX8 GR+ came with a 150mm length rear spring. We did some testing and realized there were no adverse effects to running a 175mm spring. We had people telling us that the 200mm length spring drastically limited how low you can adjust the coilovers."
So I guess I'll be sticking to the 175's and if they don't work out I'll try and get some 200's, or I'll just try something else altogether. (which seems a bit drastic)
So thanks to Stance and Adam and Rob at Thmotorsports for helping explain and clear things up, from my end it looked like I had gotten wrong stuff, was missing stuff, and that everything was pretty screwed up, in actuality it wasn't as bad as it seemed at all, just needed some communication/explaining etc.
While testing the stance I started running the 200mm and told that to them. 150mm is waaayy to short. As far as I remember (and this was a while ago) they actually started with 175mm. Scott and I switched to 200mm (after he flew over a curb with my 8) and than everything is super smooth.
you definitely need 200mm rear springs.
+1
04-01-2011, 01:39 PM
#31
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Yes, I checked Hoss-05's car last night and they are way short. I should have known because when we installed them the didn't fit well but I thought some adjustment and tweaking would fix it. Nope.
04-01-2011, 02:38 PM
#33
So I guess it's still not worth it to try the 175's? I've seen the way Team's car sits so I'm pretty sure I could get the height I want with 200mm, my concern is having to continuously be messing with my car, I just want to install the coilovers and everything and not have to deal with it for a while. (especially coming from a maintenance heavy setup like my air ride etc.)
04-01-2011, 02:49 PM
#34
I actually think the 175s could work... if you wanted to go really low. I like to drive my car on the street and scraping bugs the crap out of me. At 13"s from center rim to fender I still get spring clank and its about as low as I wish to be. The 175mm spring is just not an option for me.
04-01-2011, 06:15 PM
#35
I might be better off with a taller spring due to the stereo weight in my trunk anyway so I'll probably ask for the 200's, my concern with the shorter ones is having it too low and the extra weight (although it's not too crazy compared to past setups lol) making things problematic.
04-01-2011, 06:18 PM
#36
You won't even need extra weight going over slight dips in the road and you would still have the clunking occur with the shorter springs while not as frequent, still inevitable. My setup was while not bagged, is still quite low but even at the stiffest setting on the shock, they still would bottom out the coils, there isn't enough spacing between the coils to allow adequate compression
Last edited by Vlaze; 04-01-2011 at 06:20 PM.
04-05-2011, 01:33 PM
#40
They're sending me the 200mm's without any kind of a hassle whatsoever, should be here Wednesday, very impressed with how they handle their business as this whole process has been butter, as compared to another suspension company that even gave me a "sponsorship" deal on my initial purchase who liked to handle things more like cactus.
I might have everything I need (finally!) by Wednesday, holy crap, light is peaking through, I can see the finish line....almost there......almost.......there....
I might have everything I need (finally!) by Wednesday, holy crap, light is peaking through, I can see the finish line....almost there......almost.......there....
04-05-2011, 01:51 PM
#42
sounds good man...yeah we are glad to help...sometimes things get screwed up but solutions are always worked on.
While testing the stance I started running the 200mm and told that to them. 150mm is waaayy to short. As far as I remember (and this was a while ago) they actually started with 175mm. Scott and I switched to 200mm (after he flew over a curb with my 8) and than everything is super smooth.
you definitely need 200mm rear springs.
While testing the stance I started running the 200mm and told that to them. 150mm is waaayy to short. As far as I remember (and this was a while ago) they actually started with 175mm. Scott and I switched to 200mm (after he flew over a curb with my 8) and than everything is super smooth.
you definitely need 200mm rear springs.
11-17-2011, 09:08 PM
#44
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Old thread bump.
I was looking into stance because a buddy has them on his 350z and they look and ride great. Exactly what I want. However after reading this thread im a little nervous. Does anybody know if the issues have been worked out by now?
I was looking into stance because a buddy has them on his 350z and they look and ride great. Exactly what I want. However after reading this thread im a little nervous. Does anybody know if the issues have been worked out by now?
11-17-2011, 11:14 PM
#46
11-18-2011, 11:55 AM
#47
They are definitely not. Some coilovers might look similar to an untrained eye. ( I am not mocking you, and I respect your posts) But these are definitely 100% not the same. Weather these drive and perform great is another story. But these are not the same and STANCE can confirm, both externally and internally. Perhaps the mounting points may seem the same...i mean they do have to bolt up to the chassis.
But rest assure guys, Stance coilovers are different and have been on my own car for some time now with great results.
The hiccups have been fixed and I will be more careful to make sure that they don't repeat by checking what I ship. Also if anyone does or will have an issue with these we will resolve this with you in a swift manner, with the help of STANCE.
Please call me or stance with any concerns or questions.
thank you
-Adam@THM
11-18-2011, 12:17 PM
#48
+1 for both THM and Stance
Have called / requested assistance from both Adam and the guys over at stance to diagnose some random issues that were present with GR+'s.
Adam helped get me some 200mm springs FAST even though I didn't purchase the coilover set from them. And helped me diagnose some random clinks and clanks.
Stance helped me by sending me free lower mounts to resolve worn out bushings that connect to the wheel hub in the rear, to replacement adjusters due to the previous owner having broken two of them, to staying on the phone while I worked an impact hammer to fix a loose upper shock mount (i felt bad because it was so loud lol).
Not many companies stand behind their product, and through experience I can say that Stance will get my support for years to come (again not saying other brands, only commenting on Stance here).
Have called / requested assistance from both Adam and the guys over at stance to diagnose some random issues that were present with GR+'s.
Adam helped get me some 200mm springs FAST even though I didn't purchase the coilover set from them. And helped me diagnose some random clinks and clanks.
Stance helped me by sending me free lower mounts to resolve worn out bushings that connect to the wheel hub in the rear, to replacement adjusters due to the previous owner having broken two of them, to staying on the phone while I worked an impact hammer to fix a loose upper shock mount (i felt bad because it was so loud lol).
Not many companies stand behind their product, and through experience I can say that Stance will get my support for years to come (again not saying other brands, only commenting on Stance here).
11-18-2011, 01:46 PM
#49
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iTrader: (46)
200mm indeed...that is a must. I usually don't check every set that sits in my warehouse but I will if anything to make sure it is the correct spring. Its just hard to find time for this.
9K, how do you know they are the same?
They are definitely not. Some coilovers might look similar to an untrained eye. ( I am not mocking you, and I respect your posts) But these are definitely 100% not the same. Weather these drive and perform great is another story. But these are not the same and STANCE can confirm, both externally and internally. Perhaps the mounting points may seem the same...i mean they do have to bolt up to the chassis.
But rest assure guys, Stance coilovers are different and have been on my own car for some time now with great results.
The hiccups have been fixed and I will be more careful to make sure that they don't repeat by checking what I ship. Also if anyone does or will have an issue with these we will resolve this with you in a swift manner, with the help of STANCE.
Please call me or stance with any concerns or questions.
thank you
-Adam@THM
9K, how do you know they are the same?
They are definitely not. Some coilovers might look similar to an untrained eye. ( I am not mocking you, and I respect your posts) But these are definitely 100% not the same. Weather these drive and perform great is another story. But these are not the same and STANCE can confirm, both externally and internally. Perhaps the mounting points may seem the same...i mean they do have to bolt up to the chassis.
But rest assure guys, Stance coilovers are different and have been on my own car for some time now with great results.
The hiccups have been fixed and I will be more careful to make sure that they don't repeat by checking what I ship. Also if anyone does or will have an issue with these we will resolve this with you in a swift manner, with the help of STANCE.
Please call me or stance with any concerns or questions.
thank you
-Adam@THM
I dunno, overall I am unimpressed with the Stance. They are okay, but after installing the Koni's on grungepups H Techs last weekend I am sold on a fixed height setup. Grungepup will get a corner balance soon on his car and then maybe we can get Hoss-05's car corner balanced and do a comparison, that would be fun.
Just my uneducated opinion.
