So I need camber...
05-12-2011, 10:28 AM
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So I need camber...
I just mounted some 19x10 +20 rims with 275mm tires on my rear. I'm lowed about 1.5" in back also.
It.rubs.so.much.
I'm rolling my rear fenders tomorrow afternoon but i fear that wont be enough. What do I need to get some negative camber in the rear?
Thanks a lot.
~Danny
It.rubs.so.much.
I'm rolling my rear fenders tomorrow afternoon but i fear that wont be enough. What do I need to get some negative camber in the rear?
Thanks a lot.
~Danny
05-12-2011, 10:33 AM
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Go to an alignment shop. Did you even read up in the Will-it-fit thread about what specs people are using and what they had to do?
I'm running 18x10 +28 with -2.5 camber in the rear on 255/40/18 tires with a fender roll and grinding most of the rear tan off to make it work.
You're going to likely need at least, -2.2 to -2.5 camber for the rear to make it work while grinding away most of that tab that connects the rear bumper to the fender to stop it from rubbing. Are you on coilovers? Is the car lowered?
I'm running 18x10 +28 with -2.5 camber in the rear on 255/40/18 tires with a fender roll and grinding most of the rear tan off to make it work.
You're going to likely need at least, -2.2 to -2.5 camber for the rear to make it work while grinding away most of that tab that connects the rear bumper to the fender to stop it from rubbing. Are you on coilovers? Is the car lowered?
05-12-2011, 10:42 AM
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Go to an alignment shop. Did you even read up in the Will-it-fit thread about what specs people are using and what they had to do?
I'm running 18x10 +28 with -2.5 camber in the rear on 255/40/18 tires with a fender roll and grinding most of the rear tan off to make it work.
You're going to likely need at least, -2.2 to -2.5 camber for the rear to make it work while grinding away most of that tab that connects the rear bumper to the fender to stop it from rubbing. Are you on coilovers? Is the car lowered?
I'm running 18x10 +28 with -2.5 camber in the rear on 255/40/18 tires with a fender roll and grinding most of the rear tan off to make it work.
You're going to likely need at least, -2.2 to -2.5 camber for the rear to make it work while grinding away most of that tab that connects the rear bumper to the fender to stop it from rubbing. Are you on coilovers? Is the car lowered?
yeah I read the thread... it fits lol.
The tires I'm running are 275/35/R19 Hankook V12's...
I'm lowered on Tien S techs about 1" in the rear.... I dunno why I wrote 1.5 up there.
and whats that "tab" you're talking about? Mine only rubs on the inside fender near the top.
05-12-2011, 10:46 AM
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Check the rear tab underneath your fender where the bumper screws into the fender, it's quite visible. You're about 1/2" larger in circumference that I am so I'd find this a bit unbelievable that you would not be rubbing on them although I'm likely 2x lower than you are. Look at the tire sidewall, if you notice a shiny line on it that you can pick off, it's the plastic you're rubbing on from that tab. Look underneath the fender for that tab, if you see it looking black on the edges, that's from the tire rubbing on it.
There's no way unless you have a series II and they redesigned the rear bumper to fender connection points that you shouldn't be rubbing on there. What may be happening is your fender right now is preventing you from rubbing on the tabs, after you roll the fender underneath it will be your next problem more than likely.
There's no way unless you have a series II and they redesigned the rear bumper to fender connection points that you shouldn't be rubbing on there. What may be happening is your fender right now is preventing you from rubbing on the tabs, after you roll the fender underneath it will be your next problem more than likely.
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05-12-2011, 10:53 AM
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Check the rear tab underneath your fender where the bumper screws into the fender, it's quite visible. You're about 1/2" larger in circumference that I am so I'd find this a bit unbelievable that you would not be rubbing on them although I'm likely 2x lower than you are. Look at the tire sidewall, if you notice a shiny line on it that you can pick off, it's the plastic you're rubbing on from that tab. Look underneath the fender for that tab, if you see it looking black on the edges, that's from the tire rubbing on it.
There's no way unless you have a series II and they redesigned the rear bumper to fender connection points that you shouldn't be rubbing on there. What may be happening is your fender right now is preventing you from rubbing on the tabs, after you roll the fender underneath it will be your next problem more than likely.
There's no way unless you have a series II and they redesigned the rear bumper to fender connection points that you shouldn't be rubbing on there. What may be happening is your fender right now is preventing you from rubbing on the tabs, after you roll the fender underneath it will be your next problem more than likely.
05-12-2011, 10:58 AM
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Once you roll your fenders, I would start looking at that tab I told you about for the next problem. At your setup depending how close the tire is, you will likely hit it as it's a well known modification for anyone running aggressive setups.
You can adjust your own camber but my personal advice, go to an alignment shop. This is what anyone should do unless you own your own shop to set it up professionally. You need to go to one that does custom alignment (meaning outside of stock) so that it's equal on both sides and tuned in for going down the road. If you go to a place like Sears they will only align it to factory spec. Just google some places around your area, it shouldn't be hard to find one.
You can adjust your own camber but my personal advice, go to an alignment shop. This is what anyone should do unless you own your own shop to set it up professionally. You need to go to one that does custom alignment (meaning outside of stock) so that it's equal on both sides and tuned in for going down the road. If you go to a place like Sears they will only align it to factory spec. Just google some places around your area, it shouldn't be hard to find one.
05-12-2011, 11:02 AM
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Once you roll your fenders, I would start looking at that tab I told you about for the next problem. At your setup depending how close the tire is, you will likely hit it as it's a well known modification for anyone running aggressive setups.
You can adjust your own camber but my personal advice, go to an alignment shop. This is what anyone should do unless you own your own shop to set it up professionally. You need to go to one that does custom alignment (meaning outside of stock) so that it's equal on both sides and tuned in for going down the road. If you go to a place like Sears they will only align it to factory spec. Just google some places around your area, it shouldn't be hard to find one.
You can adjust your own camber but my personal advice, go to an alignment shop. This is what anyone should do unless you own your own shop to set it up professionally. You need to go to one that does custom alignment (meaning outside of stock) so that it's equal on both sides and tuned in for going down the road. If you go to a place like Sears they will only align it to factory spec. Just google some places around your area, it shouldn't be hard to find one.
Thanks
05-12-2011, 11:13 AM
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Once you roll your fenders, I would start looking at that tab I told you about for the next problem. At your setup depending how close the tire is, you will likely hit it as it's a well known modification for anyone running aggressive setups.
You can adjust your own camber but my personal advice, go to an alignment shop. This is what anyone should do unless you own your own shop to set it up professionally. You need to go to one that does custom alignment (meaning outside of stock) so that it's equal on both sides and tuned in for going down the road. If you go to a place like Sears they will only align it to factory spec. Just google some places around your area, it shouldn't be hard to find one.
You can adjust your own camber but my personal advice, go to an alignment shop. This is what anyone should do unless you own your own shop to set it up professionally. You need to go to one that does custom alignment (meaning outside of stock) so that it's equal on both sides and tuned in for going down the road. If you go to a place like Sears they will only align it to factory spec. Just google some places around your area, it shouldn't be hard to find one.
Time to go LOWAR now... (I'm prolly dropped like 2.5" right now)
and alignment tomorrow... maybe ill do a bit negative camber for looks.
******* up the handling one day at a time...
05-12-2011, 11:25 AM
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https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/help-fitting-wideass-wheels-213574/
You're a moron
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05-12-2011, 06:20 PM
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19x10 +20 w/ 275 and you didn't roll the fenders beforehand?
yeah... no way that was going to fit.
I have 19x10 +42 with 275's and that needed an immediate fender roll.
Listen to Vlaze, you'll need to roll fenders, possibly shave that tab and have an alignment shop camber out the wheels. Also, don't go to a generic shop like Firestone or Sears, they'll try and set your car to factory Alignment specs which (I believe) already has some negative camber so that won't help you as it's not enough negative camber.
Ask around your regional subforum to see where people recommend going or places that do track alignments.
random thought: what size wheels / tires did you mount up front?
yeah... no way that was going to fit.
I have 19x10 +42 with 275's and that needed an immediate fender roll.
Listen to Vlaze, you'll need to roll fenders, possibly shave that tab and have an alignment shop camber out the wheels. Also, don't go to a generic shop like Firestone or Sears, they'll try and set your car to factory Alignment specs which (I believe) already has some negative camber so that won't help you as it's not enough negative camber.
Ask around your regional subforum to see where people recommend going or places that do track alignments.
random thought: what size wheels / tires did you mount up front?
05-13-2011, 10:00 AM
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19x10 +20 w/ 275 and you didn't roll the fenders beforehand?
yeah... no way that was going to fit.
I have 19x10 +42 with 275's and that needed an immediate fender roll.
Listen to Vlaze, you'll need to roll fenders, possibly shave that tab and have an alignment shop camber out the wheels. Also, don't go to a generic shop like Firestone or Sears, they'll try and set your car to factory Alignment specs which (I believe) already has some negative camber so that won't help you as it's not enough negative camber.
Ask around your regional subforum to see where people recommend going or places that do track alignments.
random thought: what size wheels / tires did you mount up front?
yeah... no way that was going to fit.
I have 19x10 +42 with 275's and that needed an immediate fender roll.
Listen to Vlaze, you'll need to roll fenders, possibly shave that tab and have an alignment shop camber out the wheels. Also, don't go to a generic shop like Firestone or Sears, they'll try and set your car to factory Alignment specs which (I believe) already has some negative camber so that won't help you as it's not enough negative camber.
Ask around your regional subforum to see where people recommend going or places that do track alignments.
random thought: what size wheels / tires did you mount up front?
And I was reading that in the rear the stock suspension could be adjusted all the way to -4.5 degress? Thats ******* crazy! Not like I would ever do that much anyway, but props to Mazda.
05-13-2011, 11:53 AM
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dang ..thats suicidal...im surprise that the fender is still looking the same...my buddy who had almost the same setup, literally BENT/dent his fender when the wheel hit the fender on bumpy roads.....thats what happens when u dont do fitment(rolling/pulling/shaving) when trying to go aggressive
good luck in your camber work at the shop....keep us updated
good luck in your camber work at the shop....keep us updated
05-13-2011, 12:03 PM
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second. Its only 3/4" outside not a whole inch haha. Leaving to get the camber done now. Hopefully getting the fenders rolled and pulled tonight.
But thanks to everyone who is being helpful, not a useless *****. I posted this thread to get assistance, not to get trolled.
05-13-2011, 12:08 PM
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you have 19's in the rear and 18's up front? 
hope you have a really good shop for the fender roll and especially PULLING the fender. I've seen plenty of bad fender pulls that end up all wavey and look like ***.
hope you have a really good shop for the fender roll and especially PULLING the fender. I've seen plenty of bad fender pulls that end up all wavey and look like ***.
05-13-2011, 12:41 PM
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it will never work. particularly because of the S-techs. your suspension has so much rebounding that you will end up destroying something eventually.
do everything everyone else is saying, ie roll/pull, camber, switch to smaller tires, and get some new suspension.
do everything everyone else is saying, ie roll/pull, camber, switch to smaller tires, and get some new suspension.
05-13-2011, 04:34 PM
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i just got my alignment done, guy did -4.1 degrees in the rear...
so this is what i had to do to get 9.5 +15 on 225 in front and 10.5 +15 on 245 in the rear to fit:
1. Buy coilovers.
2. Roll all 4 fenders.
3. Push the rear fenders out with the rolling tool.
4. Cut the plastic at the rear bumper tab.
5. Pull the rear bumper out to align with the pushed out fenders.
6. Get an alignment to adjust camber.
so this is what i had to do to get 9.5 +15 on 225 in front and 10.5 +15 on 245 in the rear to fit:
1. Buy coilovers.
2. Roll all 4 fenders.
3. Push the rear fenders out with the rolling tool.
4. Cut the plastic at the rear bumper tab.
5. Pull the rear bumper out to align with the pushed out fenders.
6. Get an alignment to adjust camber.
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