Shattered dreams of Advan
11-05-2011, 11:22 AM
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[QUOTE=JantzenRX-8;4118117]Then do i have the picture for you!
My Advans... RS 18x9 +28
PS - a great place to buy cheap slightly used Advans is evolutionm.com in the private classifieds forum.
those are so pretty....wow... i have a question for you actually, i stumbled on a thread on evolutionm.com about people with the RS getting chips from rocks or whatever, have you experienced this? Would buying the RSD fix this since it is more recessed and the spokes aren't protruding out?
My Advans... RS 18x9 +28
PS - a great place to buy cheap slightly used Advans is evolutionm.com in the private classifieds forum.
those are so pretty....wow... i have a question for you actually, i stumbled on a thread on evolutionm.com about people with the RS getting chips from rocks or whatever, have you experienced this? Would buying the RSD fix this since it is more recessed and the spokes aren't protruding out?
11-05-2011, 11:33 AM
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Yeah, i believe that. I think most of my rock chips are from the previous owner but they definitely get chipped up over time. RS-D's look better anyway. I think it's TopGear8 that has a set of those on his bb.
11-05-2011, 11:58 AM
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Thanks for the kind words(towards me) deep down i do feel what the others are saying, i wouldn't be happy with the rotas, i wouldn't be as proud to show off my car, i just need to save more. the RS tend to sell used for alittle more compared to the RGII but i like how the RS look on the FD more, which brings me to my next point that ill most likely track the FD when the ball starts rolling in a few years so i guess its good to buy a reputable wheel rather than buying a shitty one and having to buy a reputable wheel to replace it.
11-05-2011, 04:01 PM
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I would personally prefer to run OEM wheels and save up for Advans than run Rotas. You say not everyone can afford Advans, but if one can save up for Rotas, one should be able to save a bit longer and buy the real deal. Advans are expensive but with a little ingenuity, one can pick up a used set or save up and shop around a good amount.
This goes right along with what i was saying about cast not necessarily being bad, and what everyone is saying about rota being ****.
Cast Advans are usually flow-formed or high pressure cast.
Stocks are low pressure cast.
Rotas are gravity cast.
read the article and you'll see why rotas are **** comparatively.
There isn't a comparison in quality between the rotas and the advan's at all.
I understand not wanting to dump a bunch of money on wheels, but you get what you pay for.
Cast Advans are usually flow-formed or high pressure cast.
Stocks are low pressure cast.
Rotas are gravity cast.
read the article and you'll see why rotas are **** comparatively.
There isn't a comparison in quality between the rotas and the advan's at all.
I understand not wanting to dump a bunch of money on wheels, but you get what you pay for.
Take, for example, the RPF1 - this is a wheel designed strictly with weight in mind and because of this, it is very weak at some points.
It would be nice if the motto, "you get what you pay for" were always true in the aftermarket modification world but the simple fact is it is not true. While I am the strongest supporter of purchasing the Advans and am not suggesting the Rotas are going to be 100% on par with weight and strength, the fact is, the certifications/tests matter more than any "manufacturing process" propaganda. Properly JWL & VIA tested? The wheels should be fine for most circumstances.
There are many brands out there that market themselves as high-end brands and charge high-end brand prices when the product simply isn't as superior as they lead the public to believe.
Listen up bro. If you want Rota's and that's what you can afford then get them. So what that they look like another wheel from another more reputable company.
People tend to forget that we are all not freaking rich. We have families and responsibilities. That spending 600-1200 per wheel just so no one will bash you is utterly ridiculous. Most people who bash can't afford the wheels they really want anyway, and their car does not look up to par with the standards they set for others.
If your searching for a certain look and can accomplish/execute it spending thousands less than do so. *** peoples opinions.
If you were tracking your car its a different story. You get what you pay for. And those rotas will not be as reliable as the more expensive brands. But for daily driving your good.
People tend to forget that we are all not freaking rich. We have families and responsibilities. That spending 600-1200 per wheel just so no one will bash you is utterly ridiculous. Most people who bash can't afford the wheels they really want anyway, and their car does not look up to par with the standards they set for others.
If your searching for a certain look and can accomplish/execute it spending thousands less than do so. *** peoples opinions.
If you were tracking your car its a different story. You get what you pay for. And those rotas will not be as reliable as the more expensive brands. But for daily driving your good.
If all one cares about is a look, then sure, the Rotas will be fine. I even disagree with your comment about tracking; I'm sure Rotas would be sufficient there as well. Again, it all comes down to whether one is cool/proud to fake the funk.
A slight side note, but didn't you used to have, "Authenticity = Perfection" in your signature?
11-05-2011, 04:02 PM
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Now that that rant is over, I'll throw in my $.02 to OP.
Buy what you will be proud of. Proud of rocking Rotas? Then by all means...
I would personally go Advan in this case
Buy what you will be proud of. Proud of rocking Rotas? Then by all means...
I would personally go Advan in this case
11-05-2011, 07:38 PM
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Impatience is no excuse for cheaping out on auto parts and not getting what you really want. If one can save for Rotas but actually wants Advans, one can wait a bit longer and save for the Advans. [True and I don't disagree. My point was for people who can't justify saving/spending on a brand name. I didn't want the op to assume my statement was directed straight to his situation, because I dont know his financial situation. But an open ended statement that may provide direction]
The fact that OP wanted Advans, then switched to Rotas, is what would upset people. Furthermore, the fact that OP is considering an FD in the future, a car that requires loads of upkeep, it should be assumed that a certain amount of income is present. [This is subject to debate concerning the amount of income that is present. I know plenty of people who own FD's and still live check to check]
If all one cares about is a look, then sure, the Rotas will be fine.[I agree]
I even disagree with your comment about tracking; I'm sure Rotas would be sufficient there as well. [They might or might not depending on your Rota wheel of choice. But then again I really wouldn't know. I have never read a credited published article on the durability of Rota wheels. So I guess I'll retract that statement.]
Again, it all comes down to whether one is cool/proud to fake the funk.
A slight side note, but didn't you used to have, "Authenticity = Perfection" in your signature? [This is true. Usually knock off items don't fit, look as good, and usually have poor quality compared to authentic items.]
Like I stated in my last post. I wasn't attacking anyone that posted in this thread. But expressing my thoughts. Because I have friends that are less fortunate and I'm tired of people bashing others for being less fortunate.
Tilt did I offend u?
11-05-2011, 09:58 PM
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Not at all, I was just replying to the thread as a whole and your comments happened to be one I quoted. Just a fun topic to debate, since there are quite a few crossed messages/concepts going around online.
I'm not one to bash; hopefully the discerning reader got the points I'm making.
The age old saying will always stand true; to each, his own.
I'm not one to bash; hopefully the discerning reader got the points I'm making.
The age old saying will always stand true; to each, his own.
11-05-2011, 10:43 PM
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i get what both of you guys are saying, and income will be present after my house sells. The fd will be something i can tinker with and slowly mod. Its not really "considering buying a fd" lets just say its going to happen, just a question of when. Being in love with the fd for years helps 
If the FD turns into a Financial Disaster then its exactly what im expecting. Im expecting to eat spam while i mod my fd.
From what my countless months of research into this.. Many people have a misconception of FD's breaking every 20 miles. But that is because people dont pour money into reliability. The first 5k i spend will be just towards making the car not break. I actually dont intend to push more hp out of the car until i mod everything else.
If the FD turns into a Financial Disaster then its exactly what im expecting. Im expecting to eat spam while i mod my fd. From what my countless months of research into this.. Many people have a misconception of FD's breaking every 20 miles. But that is because people dont pour money into reliability. The first 5k i spend will be just towards making the car not break. I actually dont intend to push more hp out of the car until i mod everything else.
11-06-2011, 03:09 AM
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I understand your points... I personally want 18x9.5 +20 grids... I want them over "the real deal" due to the look... I want concave but I dont want to run 10.5 width TEs to get it. Would I be more proud rocking TEs over grids? yes but thats not worth 3k in my book, thats 3k I can spend on my family and child.
granted my goals and the OPs goals are not the same so in his case I say save up the extra and get the advans... and I second the RS-Ds because they are teh sex.
11-06-2011, 12:53 PM
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I understand your points... I personally want 18x9.5 +20 grids... I want them over "the real deal" due to the look... I want concave but I dont want to run 10.5 width TEs to get it. Would I be more proud rocking TEs over grids? yes but thats not worth 3k in my book, thats 3k I can spend on my family and child.
granted my goals and the OPs goals are not the same so in his case I say save up the extra and get the advans... and I second the RS-Ds because they are teh sex.
granted my goals and the OPs goals are not the same so in his case I say save up the extra and get the advans... and I second the RS-Ds because they are teh sex.
http://www.gencoupe.com/756387-post41.html
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11-06-2011, 04:29 PM
#38
you should look into the Varrstoen 2.2.2 instead of the grids, saw a pic of a bmw that went off a cliff with varrstoens and the rims were fine
http://www.gencoupe.com/756387-post41.html
http://www.gencoupe.com/756387-post41.html
That is very impressive... those are closer replicas to the TEs but I'm still feeling the grids over them looks wise. the varrstoens look better in 19" sizes though but I don't plan on running 19s due to tire cost.
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