RX8Soldier

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Fortunately, the OP didn't give the most retarded reply to a valid response (to his already retarded question in the first place), that I've heard all day...

toddiesel

I'm and ******* huh? I'll keep that in mind. Maybe I shouldn't have prefaced my question with those disclaimers, but it seems EVERY time I read a post from someone asking a question they get slammed left and right getting told to try a google search or to actually search/read the forum before they ask questions. I was merely trying to head those responses off before they came, but I guess it came off sounding defensive. That wasn't my intention. Then when I felt like I was being attacked by fuztupnz, I felt the need to actually defend myself. If you read the whole thread, you'd see we ironed that **** out though. As far as my response to things like "any wheel shop on the planet dot com", I'm not going to apologize for responding to dickiness with dickiness in turn. Let's be honest, that's a straight up dick answer and isn't helpful.

Also, when I walk into a shop to ask a question, no one would say "do a google search" or "try any rim shop in the world", so I wouldn't feel the need to preface my question the way I did in my first post. If they DID tell me that, I'd certainly make sure no one I knew ever went to their shop because that's just **** poor customer service. So sir, if I ever come into your shop, I won't be an *******. I'll just tell you what I'm looking for and hope you respond with quality customer service.

toddiesel

Again, I'm sorry if I came off as defense and couldn't quite articulate what I was looking for at first. I should have asked someone to read it before I posted and made sure what I was asking was clear. I realize now it was a little vague and came across as already being defensive before I got the first response. I just didn't want a bunch of people jumping down my throat telling me to do things I'd already done as I have seen done to others on forums everywhere of every type. I'll make sure the next time I post, I don't sound like a douche right off the bat. Sorry again.

godesshunter

There's no question when talking to a real person face to face its much easier to articulate what you are trying to say and explain what you really want. Thats the tough part about typing a description on the computer. I'll see if I can help...

Have you looked into XXR wheels? They're not too performance oriented but the price is pretty good. When I was looking into getting wheels I originally looked into the XXR 006. They have a way of constructing the wheel so that you may have front and rear wheels the same width and offset. However they "tweek" the rim barrel and spoke design to give the rear a deeper dish than the front.

That way you can keep the physical numbers the same for front and rear to combat issues that may arise with understeer but achieve the staggered fitment "look" you are aiming for.

That being said, If you're going for purely looks and don't mind running staggered, with that construction design you could go with a mild stagger say .5-1.0 inch width difference and have it look like you have a wild stagger like 3 inches.

toddiesel

Just a quick look at their site before heading to work looks promising. I'll give them a shout and see what they can do for me. Thanks godesshunter!

toddiesel

So for those of you who were waiting with bated breath to see what I'd end up with, I decided on the following:
http://www.worksconcepts.com/gram_li...o/g-52776.aspx
I'm getting those all around, but those rims ARE the type where offset/width is a direct reflection on the lip. I'll be getting 18x8.5 in the front with a +40 offset which will give it about a 1.4 inch lip and 18x9.5 in the rear with a +30 offset which will give me about a 3.3 inch lip. Apparently I'm going to have to roll the fenders, but hey, that's the price you pay to look good right? Thanks to everyone that gave productive input!

Atilla

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Those are one of my top 5 favorite wheels. (57pro w/ti lip)

18x8.5 +40 won't be very flush up front.

I've had 18x8.5 +38's w/255/35's n' they were close but the tires had bubbled sidewalls n' they rubbed the **** outta my inside liners.

imo, If you want the staggered look go w/this:

Front: 18x9.5 +40 w/265/35
Rear: 18x10 +38 w/275/35

As far as faces n' lips you may have to call but imo, these specs would probably go best w/what you're trying to achieve.

toddiesel

265s???? Holy crap will that even fit up front? I was gonna go with 245/40s up front and 275/35s in the rear. Also, 10mm difference isn't much of a stagger. I'd just do 265s all around if I were gonna do it that way. I'd have to call the guy like you said, but I also don't think there'd be much of a lip difference with only a .5 inch width difference and a 2mm offset difference. Sounds like I'd have about a 2.5 inch lip in the front and maybe a 3 inch lip in back? Just doing napkin math in my head on that, so not really sure.

Atilla

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Do NOT run 245F n' 275R.

For multiple reasons you don't wanna go that far off in specs w/tires.


Once you roll your fenders and adjust your camber you'll have plenty of room to work with.

The reason i suggested different tire sizes (but relatively close) is because you'll be running different widths on the front n' rear (not just offsets). That and as i've said earlier...the rear fender well has a bit more space than the front....also not to mention your speedo will be thrown off if you go too far off in specs. You can run the same size tire if you'd like all around it's just the front sidewall may be more 'square' than the rear (round shoulders).

Here's a pic of my car n' it's setup. (18x10 +40 w/265/35's all 4)

Link to pic: http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w...af296f40_z.jpg


I could have easily fit 275's but i went conservative on my first set of tires.

As far as lip appearances you might be able to get away with some things. From what i've seen with a lot of wheel setups (including my own) they have different faces n' lips once you get up to 10" wide. (dunno why ). An example would be my forgestars...no matter how low the offset is for my wheels they will not have a concave face unless they're at least 10" wide. THere are a couple more like this, i know the AME tm02's have a step lip option but is only available w/10.5 width.

Unfortunately i don't have my spec sheet for gram lights but i do know they have a lot of variants regarding lip n' face sizes. Def best to call

toddiesel

Aside from understeer, why would having 245s and 275s be bad? I don't want to have to roll my fenders in the front for sure, and I'd rather not have to roll them in the back, but i don't have much choice if I want to go wider than like 255s.

You mention my speedo will be off if I go too far out of spec... I'm certainly not an expert but isn't the only thing that affects that the overall diameter of the wheel and tire? I don't see how width would affect that. I mean I could very easily be wrong, I just don't understand.

I talked extensively to the guy at works concepts about creating the right lip look between front and back and after several conversations, and him calling the factory a few times, that's what he came up with. I'm sure there are other combinations that will yield similar results, but I definitely want to go with something that's going to give me a very deep lip in the rear with a shallow lip, or no lip at all in the front.

Don't think I'm spurning your advice, because I certainly appreciate it. Just want to make sure we both understand where the other is coming from.

toddiesel

Actually I have read quite a few posts on here and that's where I originally got that 245s is as wide as one should go on an 8. Atilla even mentions in this thread that when he had 255s they rubbed his inside liners. If 265s fit without modification though, that's awesome and it may make me rethink my tire selection. When I said 10mm isn't much of a stagger I was talking purely from a tire standpoint (i.e. 255s front 265s rear). I mean, that's less than half an inch. If it's noticeable on an 8, again I'll take your word for it, I was just thinking it didn't sound like much. I'm not going by what Z owners say, but by my previous experience as a Mustang owner. I do realize they're very different cars. I ran 255s front and 295s rear and that looked sick and imo the wider the tire in the rear, the better it looks. As far as the guy recommending tires, well he didn't. He just gave me the wheel specs and I chose tire size based on personal preference. A 245/40 would have a 98mm sidewall and a 275/35 will have a 96.25mm sidewall so TECHNICALLY it will be shorter, but it's less than a 2mm difference so I don't think it will be noticeable. Of course if I can run 265s up front, I might just run 265s all round. Probably like a 265/35. Of course I'll have to call back and get some new specs for the gram lights so I can keep the same lip situation (i.e. shallow up front deep in rear). I imagine that means to keep a shallower lip on the front while getting a wider wheel the offset will have to increase quite a bit, which might actually help keep it from rubbing. I don't know. Does that sound right?

pdxhak

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double stagger a set of te37 and le37.